VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[Deleted member 3064965]

Axel says he's over her, but I suspect if they get back together, he would demand that she cuts all ties with other guys because he wants to own her completely. To become HIS slut, not everyone else's behind his back. If he's to share her, it would be on his terms with the person of his choice at the place and time of his choice.

Yeah, I doubt he’s telling the truth when he claims he’s over her. He’s been trying the obsessive ex-boyfriend tactic for a while without success, so acting disinterested to lure her back in seems a logical next step. Even if he’s over her, I can’t see him accepting being Lena’s side piece. And if he is in fact over her, I think there’s even bigger reasons to doubt his motives and the reasons for his involvement with Seymour and Ivy.

It's pretty unfair how you are supposed to basically ignore 90% of the content if you want to have a loving relationship with someone. Why can Lena fuck around but Ian can't? I think the game would be much more enjoyable if people weren't so hateful on Harem/Polyamory paths.

It’s obviously legitimate to prefer games where there’s less consequences and you’re not locked out of routes to the same extent as with ORS. But ORS is meant to be realistic, so the fact that you have to "ignore 90 % of the content if you want to have a loving relationship with someone" is simply because that’s the way it is in real life; you can either sleep around, or decide you want a loving relationship with someone, meaning you’ll stop sleeping around (or at least you should).

I think 90 percent is a pretty big exaggeration as well — up until now Ian can sleep with Alison, Cherry, Emma, Cindy and Minerva, and still be able to enter a relationship with Lena — and it can be a relationship where they even decide to experiment together. It’s too early to tell exactly what limitations there’ll be in loving relationships with the others. But while some cheating is bound to cause trouble, I’ll bet it’ll be possible to cheat and get away with it as well — even for Ian. And the Lena/Ian/Holly throuple still looks likely too.

 

[PervySageKem]

Yeah, I doubt he’s telling the truth when he claims he’s over her. He’s been trying the obsessive ex-boyfriend tactic for a while without success, so acting disinterested to lure her back in seems a logical next step. Even if he’s over her, I can’t see him accepting being Lena’s side piece. And if he is in fact over her, I think there’s even bigger reasons to doubt his motives and the reasons for his involvement with Seymour and Ivy.

It’s obviously legitimate to prefer games where there’s less consequences and you’re not locked out of routes to the same extent as with ORS. But ORS is meant to be realistic, so the fact that you have to "ignore 90 % of the content if you want to have a loving relationship with someone" is simply because that’s the way it is in real life; you can either sleep around, or decide you want a loving relationship with someone, meaning you’ll stop sleeping around (or at least you should).

I think 90 percent is a pretty big exaggeration as well — up until now Ian can sleep with Alison, Cherry, Emma, Cindy and Minerva, and still be able to enter a relationship with Lena — and it can be a relationship where they even decide to experiment together. It’s too early to tell exactly what limitations there’ll be in loving relationships with the others. But while some cheating is bound to cause trouble, I’ll bet it’ll be possible to cheat and get away with it as well — even for Ian. And the Lena/Ian/Holly throuple still looks likely too.

You are right, I am exaggerating with the percentage ahahah! it's just that these games due tend to have really bad consequences if you take a wrong step too enjoy some of the content. The relationship with Cindy could get really emotional and romantic (at least I hope it can, I'm still in chapter 6), but it would have consequences with Lena (maybe not?).

Why is the throuple okay with Holly but not Cindy? I'm not criticizing, I just tend to get torn in EVERY GAME between two incompatible love interests... I'm either unlucky or devs think it's asking for too much to have two loving relationships.

I get the whole "realistic angle", but I never beleive in that justification. These stories are always larger than life, it's not realistic for a guy to suddenly talk two times with a girl and fuck her. It's not realistic to fuck the Boss when you are about to get fired for being a complete jackass. Yet these things happen...

All I'm saying is I would love it if games with multiple love interests would give us more chances for a more relaxed polyamory experience.

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

You are right, I am exaggerating with the percentage ahahah! it's just that these games due tend to have really bad consequences if you take a wrong step too enjoy some of the content. The relationship with Cindy could get really emotional and romantic (at least I hope it can, I'm still in chapter 6), but it would have consequences with Lena (maybe not?).

Why is the throuple okay with Holly but not Cindy? I'm not criticizing, I just tend to get torn in EVERY GAME between two incompatible love interests... I'm either unlucky or devs think it's asking for too much to have two loving relationships.

I get the whole "realistic angle", but I never beleive in that justification. These stories are always larger than life, it's not realistic for a guy to suddenly talk two times with a girl and fuck her. It's not realistic to fuck the Boss when you are about to get fired for being a complete jackass. Yet these things happen...

All I'm saying is I would love it if games with multiple love interests would give us more chances for a more relaxed polyamory experience.

Just my opinion obviously, but Cindy as a person seems less likely to accept sharing a guy with someone else. Holly admires Lena, while Cindy seems to feel threatened by her. And Holly and Lena are already friends. So I think the relationship between those two and Ian stands out as more compatible with a polyamorous relationship than anyone else. But I think there’ll be several Cindy paths, both romantical and not, that we can look forward to.

And who knows, maybe some other similar options like Holly/Lena/Ian will emerge later in the game, as the relationships between the characters continue to progress? Emma and Lena are starting to get to know each other, and while Emma doesn’t seem to be interested in a relationship, I suspect she’s one of the persons Ian and Lena can have fun with together in the coming chapters. A couple instead of a throuple, but with one or a few persons they regularly invite into their bedroom for some fun — that could be pretty wholesome too.

 

[monk_56]

Just my opinion obviously, but Cindy as a person seems less likely to accept sharing a guy with someone else. Holly admires Lena, while Cindy seems to feel threatened by her. And Holly and Lena are already friends. So I think the relationship between those two and Ian stands out as more compatible with a polyamorous relationship than anyone else. But I think there’ll be several Cindy paths, both romantical and not, that we can look forward to.

And who knows, maybe some other similar options as Holly/Lena/Ian will emerge later in the game, as the relationships between the characters continue to progress? Emma and Lena are starting to get to know each other, and while Emma doesn’t seem to be a interested in a relationship, I suspect she’s one of the persons Ian and Lena can have fun with together in the coming chapters. A couple instead of a throuple, but with one or a few persons they regularly invite into their bedroom for some fun — that could be pretty wholesome too.

Cindy does not feel destined for Poly relations.

Lena x Holly x Ian is the definite pathing.

Louise would also Kamakazi on the chance to be a throuple with Ian and Lena I bet- maybe b/t the two of them they could give her enough attention to sate her neuroticism.

I can also see Emma changing her tune on relationships (particularly if it were an open relationship) if the right people rolled up- Ian and Lena have a lot to offer as a couple to another partner.

 

[PervySageKem]

Just my opinion obviously, but Cindy as a person seems less likely to accept sharing a guy with someone else. Holly admires Lena, while Cindy seems to feel threatened by her. And Holly and Lena are already friends. So I think the relationship between those two and Ian stands out as more compatible with a polyamorous relationship than anyone else. But I think there’ll be several Cindy paths, both romantical and not, that we can look forward to.

And who knows, maybe some other similar options like Holly/Lena/Ian will emerge later in the game, as the relationships between the characters continue to progress? Emma and Lena are starting to get to know each other, and while Emma doesn’t seem to be interested in a relationship, I suspect she’s one of the persons Ian and Lena can have fun with together in the coming chapters. A couple instead of a throuple, but with one or a few persons they regularly invite into their bedroom for some fun — that could be pretty wholesome too.

I agree with you there. A couple that can have a few people they also like. Im not into the throuple angle because it seems like Lena is just "adopting a stray cat" and bringing her to bad. Not my cup of tea, Id rather Holly find her own place.

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

Cindy does not feel destined for Poly relations.

Lena x Holly x Ian is the definite pathing.

Louise would also Kamakazi on the chance to be a throuple with Ian and Lena I bet- maybe b/t the two of them they could give her enough attention to sate her neuroticism.

I can also see Emma changing her tune on relationships (particularly if it were an open relationship) if the right people rolled up- Ian and Lena have a lot to offer as a couple to another partner.

Yeah, and with Emma it will probably also be very deciding whether you side with Seymour or not. If Lena, Ian or both are working together with Seymour, she’ll hate them; but if they don’t, and instead team up with Emma to take him down, I think that would be a big leap towards becoming "the right people" in her book.

I don’t think she’d say no to a deal where they work together to bring down Seymour during the daytime, and then move to the bedroom and forget about him every evening

 

[jaylop09]

I honestly don't think the rework will take so much time, as I read here some people suggesting it will be done in fall. Probably one of the things that Eva wants with this rework is giving her base something new in near future while she gains time for the next chapter which is clearly giving her headaches. So, If i would have to bet, probably mid spring for the rework and late fall for ch10

 

[PervySageKem]

I honestly don't think the rework will take so much time, as I read here some people suggesting it will be done in fall. Probably one of the things that Eva wants with this rework is giving her base something new in near future while she gains time for the next chapter which is clearly giving her headaches. So, If i would have to bet, probably mid spring for the rework and late fall for ch10

Late fall for the next chapter? What?

 

[jaylop09]

Late fall for the next chapter? What?

Safe bet. It seems she has stumbled upon a wall with following chapters so nothing makes us to expect it before June. So maybe late fall, maybe early... In reality it's absurd to predict it if we don't even have an estimated date for the rework

 

[Gizmo11]

Amazing game, one of the best. Cant wait for the next update

 

[CoalPhelps]

Yeah, and with Emma it will probably also be very deciding whether you side with Seymour or not. If Lena, Ian or both are working together with Seymour, she’ll hate them;

I like to think that Ian will have the opportunity to become a sort of sidekick for Seymour and beat Axel on this field as well.

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

I like to think that Ian will have the opportunity to become a sort of sidekick for Seymour and beat Axel on this field as well.

I'd like that too. I'm also wondering to what extent Ian can get involved with Seymour of his own choice, or whether it will continue to depend on Lena's choices. She's obviously the main victim of Seymour's blackmail in chapter 9, but at least she gets to choose if she wants to go through with it or not. In one of the scenarios Ian risks having his career destroyed, and in the other he'll seemingly stay on Seymour's good side — but Lena becomes his private model (which is obviously worse if Ian and Lena are romantically involved). And everything is out of his hands — he doesn't even know about it yet.

I'm guessing he'll get the chance to get a closer bond to Seymour if Lena works with him, but that would be a really weird deal if he's already romantically involved with Lena. And in the long run Seymour probably won't accept that Lena is with someone else either. He'll want her for himself, just like Axel does.

Hopefully Ian will also get a similar chance even if Lena turns down Seymour, giving him more agency on Seymour's side of the story. And it would've been a nice twist as well — Lena already having turned Seymour down and made it clear to Ian what a shady guy he is, but Ian still choosing to go behind her and Emma's back and taking whatever offer Seymour might have for him.

 

[Homemade]

Guys this is what happened to my Alison's post!



I will reupload it next time with more memes in Spoilers.

 

[dav121]

Late fall for the next chapter? What?

Yeah Fall is a term used for Autumn so it looks like late September before the next update

 

[CoalPhelps]

I'd like that too. I'm also wondering to what extent Ian can get involved with Seymour of his own choice, or whether it will continue to depend on Lena's choices. She's obviously the main victim of Seymour's blackmail in chapter 9, but at least she gets to choose if she wants to go through with it or not. In one of the scenarios Ian risks having his career destroyed, and in the other he'll seemingly stay on Seymour's good side — but Lena becomes his private model (which is obviously worse if Ian and Lena are romantically involved). And everything is out of his hands — he doesn't even know about it yet.

I'm guessing he'll get the chance to get a closer bond to Seymour if Lena works with him, but that would be a really weird deal if he's already romantically involved with Lena. And in the long run Seymour probably won't accept that Lena is with someone else either. He'll want her for himself, just like Axel does.

Hopefully Ian will also get a similar chance even if Lena turns down Seymour, giving him more agency on Seymour's side of the story. And it would've been a nice twist as well — Lena already having turned Seymour down and made it clear to Ian what a shady guy he is, but Ian still choosing to go behind her and Emma's back and taking whatever offer Seymour might have for him.

I think that if Lena defended her independence and refused, then Seymour will try to get close to her through Ian who works with him. But if he is romantically involved with Lena, he may be able to build a partnership with Seymour, showing his qualities and strengths that will come in handy in Seymour's business and somehow not give him too many opportunities to influence the situation with Lena. I see Ian as the administrator of one of Seymour's establishments, sort of a "negotiator" for him (for example, with old perverts like Agnes or something less corrupted) or doing something in Hierofant.

 

[monk_56]

I think that if Lena defended her independence and refused, then Seymour will try to get close to her through Ian who works with him. But if he is romantically involved with Lena, he may be able to build a partnership with Seymour, showing his qualities and strengths that will come in handy in Seymour's business and somehow not give him too many opportunities to influence the situation with Lena. I see Ian as the administrator of one of Seymour's establishments, sort of a "negotiator" for him (for example, with old perverts like Agnes or something less corrupted) or doing something in Hierofant.

Fuck Seymour. None of my PCs will work for him. The angle where Ian works with Victor is the path for me.

I am not interested in any of Seymour's story beats outside of working with Emma to take him down. He is an opportunistic vulture.

 

[PervySageKem]

Fuck Seymour. None of my PCs will work for him. The angle where Ian works with Victor is the path for me.

I am not interested in any of Seymour's story beats outside of working with Emma to take him down. He is an opportunistic vulture.

Same man. Don't even know what the path with him looks like and I'm not interested to know. My Lena will never go through such things <3

 

[kbg5674]

I'm not sure whats up with the windows/linx links but none of the work?

 

[ekroniuk]

I am not interested in any of Seymour's story beats outside of working with Emma to take him down. He is an opportunistic vulture.

Yes. So enough about what's good and cool about him. Does he have any flaws?

 

[lipe2410]

Not my thing, but i can totaly see Seymour taking Ian as his protége and not oly making Ian work for him but also teaching him about the publisher business and his bullshit philosophy of life and ultimatly bring him to the most private (and naughty) circles of rich people. This certanly will bring sucess and status to Ian, just imagine how proud his father will be with his son working with such succesfull man like Seymour Ward, but also will make Ian giving up his artistic ideal. A proper "corruption" parth for Ian, if you ask me.