VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[cheesetriangles]

As Pablo Picasso is widely reported to have said but may not have actually said: good artists copy, great artists steal. I'll leave it up to the reader to think if this is good art or not.

 

[mommysboiii]

I dont understand why people are mad about (cuck stuff) you can take your fav tv show and cut all (alpha males) and drama out of the show and I guarantee you it will be so boring story wise.

Cheracters that some see as anoying or weak like stan, wade or perry are very important to make the world more believable but also cheracters like axel or old grandpa to give the story more drama and MC a threat.

All this different cheracters are important they have a purpose to make the game world feel alive and realistic and ofc give drama and tension
and ofc its all a players choice you dont have to sleep around if your lena and ian are together or in the future if your ian
is together with holly you prob can protect her with lena or corrupt her with ivy if you play a bad lena with bad influance on her.
You also can compete with axel as ian or play a weak ian and dont say anything if axel does stuff so its always YOUR CHOICE so I really dont understand why some people complain or dont like that(especially because this is the main point that this game feels so much more alive than alot of the competition)

 

[camube]

more rewarding to beat Axel at his own game, and it is more exciting to take on a challenge which you can actually loose, than to play for a secure win.

Can I ask how do you go about this?

Since we the player control Lena as well, what do you mean by Ian giving Lena leeway?

Does your Lena do photoshoot or go further, in-bed photoshoot with Axel?

MyIan is not interested in Ivy.

Can I also ask, remind me again which choice did we have about Ian and Ivy? I totally don't remember it

 

[selberdreher]

Can I ask how do you go about this?

Since we the player control Lena as well, what do you mean by Ian giving Lena leeway?

Does your Lena do photoshoot or go further, in-bed photoshoot with Axel?

Can I also ask, remind me again which choice did we have about Ian and Ivy? I totally don't remember it

I don't remember exactly (it has been a while), but i think Axel got handsy with Cindy in front of MyIan on their 3rd (?) or 2nd (is the 2nd one were she goes alone?) photoshoot, and in her first shoot i pushed for nudes.
Axel and MyLena had quite steamy shots with Seymour and his old Lady aquaintance, but i believe no actual sex. And i remember Lena visiting Axel with sex and a lot of squirting, but i think that's not my canon playthrough (?), because actually MyLena doesn't like Axel. It could be i have chosen this just to see the sexscene (?).
Well, i need a remastered replay anyway.
Regarding Ivy, i believe there wasn't a choice for her and Ian (in my playthrough) yet, but if there will be, MyIan will definetly keep his hands off her. That girl is way more trouble than she is worth.

Edit to clarify: usually i use "I" or "me" to refer to myself as the player in front of the computer. For ingame playable caracters i try to consistently use "MyMC" (here MyIan and MyLena), if i am referring to my playthrough, if i talk about them in a general sense i just use "Ian" and "Lena" or "MC". For NPCs i try to use their original names (if there is an option to change it).
In my post you are referring to, i wrote "I gave Axel some leeway with both Lena and Cindy, (...)" so it wasn't like Ian giving Lena a permission to cheat, it was my decision as player to give MyIan some tough competition. Just in case this differentiation is of any matter.

 

[Hongfire Survivor]

You folks don't just play other games while waiting?

I trust that she is doing her best, I like the two MC thing going on.

I'll just wait until the full update is out, easy peasy.

 

[Wallsfalldown]

You folks don't just play other games while waiting?

Nope. These goofs sit on every page that has even the slightest hint of NTR/cuck shit and cry their eyes out - making it everyone else's problem.

 

[lilsnooze]

What's better are the goons who don't even support the creator that keep complaining about features in the game or things surrounding it's progress. Like dude, you're playing for free. If you're going to complain, at least have the decency to make it constructive criticism.

 

[Lovely Dani]

Shy Girl Art
This one

Probably he is a 17 years old boy who is trying to make some little money.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Probably he is a 17 years old boy who is trying to make some little money.

Indeed. Some pocket money for McDonald's

 

[G0DZillA]

Shy Girl Art
This one

He will fix it in the next update. Give the man a break he is Ukrainian and it's his first game.

 

[Ragnar]

It's not like Eva herself was tracing porn scenes to make a game

 

[Eponym]

I can't believe that after playing this game, which I've paid a lot of attention to over a long time, that I didn't even notice when playing Shy Girl. To be fair, it's not a super uncommon situation in games on this site, though it being a literal copy is obviously different than a common trope. Based scene though.

People really going into every game with cheating/NTR and stirring up a fuss. There's a thousand vanilla games out there, yet people march on in here trying to take what little we have. NTR fans are the most disadvantage persons in the history of personhood.

EDIT: I know waiting sucks, so I don't fault anyone for wishing things took less time. Just need to remain positive/polite in feedback. As someone who has artwork of them set to appear in game I'm super excited, but I personally don't want to see it a moment before it's fully ready as Eva sees fit. :100:

 

[dolfe67]

He will fix it in the next update. Give the man a break he is Ukrainian and it's his first game.

Oh if he's ukrainian then he can steal other work no problem...

 

[RenGames69]

It's not like Eva herself was tracing porn scenes to make a game

It's not the same. He literally copy paste whole scene and dialogues.

 

[Doppelgang]

Here are some basics back to the topic, though. Eva has made two games. In 2/2 games, she's intentionally created scenarios where a male character jerks off to a girl he's either into or dating getting railed by a huge black dick. (Also worth noting with Alison that she's also still into Ian emotionally, not Jeremy, even if she's screwing J). On top of that, both games feature multiple paths with female MC screwing around on her boyfriend (both committed and non) with a host of other guys. There are enough paths where you can avoid all of this, but plenty of paths where it's a huge part of the game, too. Given the rarity of that situation in the vast majority of non-cuck/NTR games and the host of fetishes she could've included but didn't, it's hard to conclude this wasn't one of the variety of demographics she was trying to hit when designing them. Even if the second game doesn't yet have an outright, checks-every-single-column-on-the-list cuck path that the first game did, the elements are still very much there.

So, sorry, guys! You're playing a cuck game! lol. Nah. I'm not saying that at all. But I think that's what some people fear. "How will I think of myself now?!?" Which is why they're so aggressive about it.

But you are playing a game with a multitude of paths and an aim to please a multitude of people. Deal with it.

For the sanity of the forum, this pragmatic take is probably the more constructive way to debate it, rather than trying to find a definite answer on what fits or doesn’t fit within a definition, especially when it comes to NTR.

In a way it doesn’t really matter either. After all, I doubt anyone plays the game with a check list of their top kink by their side, checking the boxes as the game progresses, before finally looking down on the list with a lustful stare, whispering “kink bingo” as they put their hand down into their pants.

The thing I like about the ORS content we're debating, is that so many elements are thrown into the mix, and the characters don’t really know what they’re doing, what they want, or why they want it.

For Ian I think it starts with his slightly resigned state after the breakup with Gillian, where he can’t stop thinking about her and what happened, or looking at old pictures of her. Then the chance to watch pictures and videos of Alison appears, together with the chance to secretly subscribe to Lena’s Stalkfap. But while his motive obviously is to watch nudes of two hot women he knows, it also involves watching his best friend plow a girl he likes, and reading explicit comments from random guys on nudes of the other girl he likes. And who even took those photos, while they had her naked body with her legs spread in front of them?

Alison is a similar mix of elements: A bad breakup, low self esteem, really likes Ian but also really wants to feel desired and have sex again, wants to show Ian what he’s missing … *mixes ingredients in bowl* … voilà, a video of Alison having a threesome for Ian’s viewing pleasure.

And Lena: Another bad breakup, tired of everyone expecting her to be reasonable and responsible, kinda desperate for money, loves to be desired, seems to be really good at justifying her bad behaviour once she gets started … *mixes ingrendients again* … nude modelling career that's spinning out of control, making dudes cheat left, right and center, ready to step over lines in a relationship with Ian, with our without his consent (or give his voyeuristic desire plenty of visual fuel if they're not in a relationship).

And in the middle of it (amongst others) we have Jeremy, who's so weak willed that he's mostly just led along by others, and his main motivation seems to be to prove to others (and himself) that he's a ladies man, and to Ian that he's got a monster cock … *ingredients in bowl* … local man creates gigantic collection of homemade porn vids, shares everything with best friend

That whole mix doesn't end up with "a man whose wife is unfaithful", but I (tl;dr) absolutely agree that NTR/cucking is a part of the mix, and at least that those paths are designed to satisfy a very certain demographic of fans.

 

[G0DZillA]

Oh if he's ukrainian then he can steal other work no problem...

I live in fucking middle east i don't care really what happening over there but not like he is make over 1k dollars just from stealing one scene.

 

[Doppelgang]

Oof those news hit deep. I don't care for Ian content and mostly skip it anyway, so I guess for me the game continues, at the most optimistic timeline, around January, most likely 2 - 4 months later.

Iunno. The work is high quality, but there is a point where time for updates vs quality starts outweighing the pros that quality brings. And with how the other games are evolving I am feeling Eva's work dropping from high quality to above average quality. Eh, back to lurking.

Most often I really don't understand where these really specific estimates come from. The last update came out towards the end of April, the latest status report confirms the 9.5 version will be out in August. That's four months, and a lot of the art and planning for the second part is likely already completed, so January is rather a very pessimistic estimate. The worst case scenario of your "most likely" timeline means Eva will use more than twice as much time to do less work than for the first part of the chapter.

As someone who has artwork of them set to appear in game

Wait, are you saying that you've made some of the artwork for the next chapter of Our Red String?

 

[dolfe67]

I live in fucking middle east i don't care really what happening over there but not like he is make over 1k dollars just from stealing one scene.

Oh if he's only making a few bucks then he can steal other work no problem

Kinda joking, we're not the best to speak on a pirate site.

 

[G0DZillA]

Oh if he's only making a few bucks then he can steal other work no problem

Kinda joking, we're not the best to speak on a pirate site.

I am sure he can't steal anything if there are a copyright. I am not defending him or anyone else i am just here to play with my balls and get brain damage. So sorry if i was a bit annoying.

 

[mommysboiii]

After all, I doubt anyone plays the game with a check list of their top kink by their side, checking the boxes as the game progresses, before finally looking down on the list with a lustful stare, whispering “kink bingo”

indeed I play kink bingo

Oh if he's only making a few bucks then he can steal other work no problem

Kinda joking, we're not the best to speak on a pirate site.

this is the worst part I dont like that he stole her work but we are on a pirate site complaining about a piratits like little timmy watching cabybara videos on youtube and thinking wow I love animals as he eats his sausage its ironic a thing only humans can do the smartest animal in the whole universe