Tallyhoe

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The truth is that the decision does not surprise me, in the end these subscription models have always worked thanks to people with a Simp mentality, (I give you everything, but you do not have to worry, I wait for you) in short, people who are not able to see the value of himself, and less of his money, otherwise they would not live throwing money at a coin-op without receiving anything in return, I have supported several on patreon, but I only pay for the product, comic release or game updates, I pay the membership and I'm leaving, until they show the results of the work again, but I'm not going to let them take me out of "The idiot who gives me money", they want money, so let them earn it. But pay month by month, to see 3 posts per month where they tell you, look at an image and shut up.

PS: I'm not a hate of Eva, on the contrary I like her games, I'm a hate of the patreons that created that system where you pay but you don't get anything, a system that has ruined a lot of good games.
Not demanding anything from developers is what creates developers like ICSTOR.
I really like this developer, so I don't want to see it being an ICSTOR 30.0.
Do you even know what the word 'Patron' in Patreon means?
 

Deleted member 53157

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According to the charts, Eva is losing patrons each month and since a few months ago she lost over 300 patrons. I just cancelled my own subscription yesterday due to the mental attitude of other obsessive fans who want everyone to wait with them instead of releasing part of the chapter now (they will have to wait the same time anyway). Really crazy attitude if you ask me.

 

The_Searcher

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According to the charts, Eva is losing patrons each month and since a few months ago she lost over 300 patrons. I just cancelled my own subscription yesterday due to the mental attitude of other obsessive fans who want everyone to wait with them instead of releasing part of the chapter now (they will have to wait the same time anyway). Really crazy attitude if you ask me.

Looking at the graph, at the start of each month, she loses patreons but during all the month recovers patreons and then she loses again patreons at the start of the next month.

Is this the normal flux in patreon?
 

Deleted member 53157

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Looking at the graph, at the start of each month, she loses patreons but during all the month recovers patreons and then she loses again patreons at the start of the next month.

Is this the normal flux in patreon?
It is normal flux. But if you look at start of the year, from April she had around 2800 patrons, now last month capped at around 2400 give or take. She lost hundreds of patrons in the months between. That is a big number, and she does not have that many patrons to begin with.
 

dundun

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It is normal flux. But if you look at start of the year, from April she had around 2800 patrons, now last month capped at around 2400 give or take. She lost hundreds of patrons in the months between. That is a big number, and she does not have that many patrons to begin with.
Maybe because in April she released the last update, driving up her subscriptions? Why not, if you are really interested in comparable data, compare Aug 11, 2021 with Aug 11, 2022? That is 2223 to 2198. So she lost 25 patreons in one year, or a whooping 1.12 percent. Her downfall clearly is imminent!
 

patachoucs

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According to the charts, Eva is losing patrons each month and since a few months ago she lost over 300 patrons. I just cancelled my own subscription yesterday due to the mental attitude of other obsessive fans who want everyone to wait with them instead of releasing part of the chapter now (they will have to wait the same time anyway). Really crazy attitude if you ask me.

Oh yeah, those pesky 80% of obsessive fans (amongst those who voted of course, ie close to 800 people) . They're a plague, truly.
 

The_Searcher

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Maybe because in April she released the last update, driving up her subscriptions? Why not, if you are really interested in comparable data, compare Aug 11, 2021 with Aug 11, 2022? That is 2223 to 2198. So she lost 25 patreons in one year, or a whooping 1.12 percent. Her downfall clearly is imminent!
I find your interpretation of the graphic fascinating.

You say that she only lost 25 patrons between Aug 11 2021 - Aug 11 2022 but you ignore on purpose that she reached the top on Apr 25 2022 with 2643 patrons only to lose 445 patrons the next months.

That's what the data/graphic says.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Other major AVN threads: people sharing theories, discussing characters, plot, linking to music from the game, drawing memes, having fun and lightly pranking each other.
Our Red String thread: MASSACRE



You also have some good points and I totally agree that this ("they always got to one up themselves.") is a problem, especially when you already deliver quality content with mostly positive reviews.

About BADIK, the funny thing is that I stopped following the thread around the middle point of season 2. Way too many comments. Now I don't even remember the sub plots. I know just that I liked Sage, Bella and Quinn (somehow I am always interested in the bad girls that are not that bad in the end). Now, when can my boy Ian take Ivy on a date ? :D
Too bad you left. This is the funniest and friendliest thread ever and it's almost 10,000 pages long. I've rarely seen anyone turn on offended mode there. Well, trolls with a "lazy developer milking money" line are quickly kicked out there.
 
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dundun

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I find your interpretation of the graphic fascinating.

You say that she only lost 25 patrons between Aug 11 2021 - Aug 11 2022 but you ignore on purpose that she reached the top on Apr 25 2022 with 2643 patrons only to lose 445 patrons the next months.

That's what the data/graphic says.
Not half as fascinating as you ignoring on purpose my first sentence where I explain why the numbers were so high in April. Aug 11 to Aug 11 is comparable because they are at same time in the month and both are several months after a release. Why are you comparing Apr 25 with Auf 11 except that this time frame shows what you want.
You know what, I'll just do the same, pick the days so that 'the data' shows the opposite. Let's compare Feb 1st, 2022 with Jul 31, 2022. EvaKiss gained 444 patreons, from 1983 to 2427, in just 6 months! Tada!
 

Solomon Grundy

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Not half as fascinating as you ignoring on purpose my first sentence where I explain why the numbers were so high in April. Aug 11 to Aug 11 is comparable because they are at same time in the month and both are several months after a release. Why are you comparing Apr 25 with Auf 11 except that this time frame shows what you want.
You know what, I'll just do the same, pick the days so that 'the data' shows the opposite. Let's compare Feb 1st, 2022 with Jul 31, 2022. EvaKiss gained 444 patreons, from 1983 to 2427, in just 6 months! Tada!
As the saying goes, figures don't lie, but liars figure.

Also 73.6% of all asserted statistics are made up on the spot. ;)
 
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