VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[mommysboiii]

I think the reason is that Evea made them real and living people with their own shortcomings and personality traits.
The characters are controversial and that's good - I can draw conclusions about Eva's high writing talent.

this is the main reason why this game is superior too all this other beaing a dik,WWM and how all the big patreon games are called because in this VN people feel real with problems and own interest and desires and different decission to play the way you want Eva is so ahead of all the other sleeping devs (maybe females are actually better than men ) .

 

[Babalui]

It's ashley's mom, that's for sure.

 

[Yokanzo]

this is the main reason why this game is superior too all this other beaing a dik,WWM and how all the big patreon games are called because in this VN people feel real with problems and own interest and desires and different decission to play the way you want Eva is so ahead of all the other sleeping devs (maybe females are actually better than men ) .

This game is definitely Eva's magnum opus IMO. GGGB was kind of intense because I didn't care for her BF and I didn't really feel invested in any of the characters. It was a satisfying wank but that's about it. I'm sure the appeal is better for people who like corruption stories, but by the end of it GGGB just felt very sad and I had to stop playing. Ashley turned into a total trainwreck and I couldn't resist since most of the content was hidden behind picking the bad girl choices. Also the incest stuff REALLY didn't appeal to me.

Being able to play Ian as well as Lena gives me some skin in the game so it's more entertaining. Not to mention the storytelling is more balanced rather than exploitative.

I dunno, I'm old now. One dimensional characters that fawn over my protagonist are boring. I get into shit like this where you can see how the girl thinks or feels while rooting for your protagonist and playing him the way you want to. I spent the game hoping I could "level up" Perry, Stan and Wade in spite of themselves and being the best Ian I could be. Now that I've gone through it a couple times I'm definitely digging the Cindy route. Hope theres gonna be more content there. Plus I get to be bros with Axel.

 

[GifMeMore1987]

this is the main reason why this game is superior too all this other beaing a dik,WWM and how all the big patreon games are called because in this VN people feel real with problems and own interest and desires and different decission to play the way you want Eva is so ahead of all the other sleeping devs (maybe females are actually better than men ) .

What's WWM, A Wife and Mother? Only thread the search brought up (beside this one), but that doesn't make much sense.

 

[Reaurt]

This game is definitely Eva's magnum opus IMO. GGGB was kind of intense because I didn't care for her BF and I didn't really feel invested in any of the characters. It was a satisfying wank but that's about it. I'm sure the appeal is better for people who like corruption stories, but by the end of it GGGB just felt very sad and I had to stop playing. Ashley turned into a total trainwreck and I couldn't resist since most of the content was hidden behind picking the bad girl choices. Also the incest stuff REALLY didn't appeal to me.

Being able to play Ian as well as Lena gives me some skin in the game so it's more entertaining. Not to mention the storytelling is more balanced rather than exploitative.

I dunno, I'm old now. One dimensional characters that fawn over my protagonist are boring. I get into shit like this where you can see how the girl thinks or feels while rooting for your protagonist and playing him the way you want to. I spent the game hoping I could "level up" Perry, Stan and Wade in spite of themselves and being the best Ian I could be. Now that I've gone through it a couple times I'm definitely digging the Cindy route. Hope theres gonna be more content there. Plus I get to be bros with Axel.

I dunno, the content for GGGB even when you played Ashley as a good girl (or maybe an ethical slut with boundaries) was pretty solid. I never played the more chaotic corruption routes. But I think you're generally right about ORS. ORS is a pretty reasonable (albeit exaggerated for narrative effect) portrayal of life for a certain class of 20-somethings, while being written just ambiguously enough to invite all kinds of projection from players.

 

[The_Searcher]

I dunno, the content for GGGB even when you played Ashley as a good girl (or maybe an ethical slut with boundaries) was pretty solid. I never played the more chaotic corruption routes. But I think you're generally right about ORS. ORS is a pretty reasonable (albeit exaggerated for narrative effect) portrayal of life for a certain class of 20-somethings, while being written just ambiguously enough to invite all kinds of projection from players.

It's very solid. And in fact I like the good girl routes for Ashley in GGGB because with your decisions you can turn the life for the better on almost all the characters of the game. Which is a thing that I miss in ORS, but I suppose in future updates we will see the results of certain decisions (or maybe not, who knows).

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

That's not almost like poetry. That is poetry. I want that quote on a T-shirt

Goddammit. Now I want one too. Canto Forte's gonna be collecting royalties for his shitposts now.

 

[BloodyMares]

Go back and play it again. Perhaps it depends on how you play her, but if you go for Axel and have sex with him again, she clearly states that she enjoys the rough treatment and even uses the collar she used with Axel again! She loves that aspect of him, it's the one thing about him that draws her back, so any idea that she dislikes it is pure bullshit. It was always about his affair with Cherry, and she said that as well. Its why she hates Cherry and storms out of the room when Cherry joins them.

I'm not sure what game you played... but this was all clearly spelled out.

Replay Lena's dates with Ian where she tells him about their relationship, as well as the very prologue where she's crying in the alley. That scene takes place chronologically before Axel's shenanigans with Cherry. Relationships are built on more than sex.

 

[KittyLove]

Hope there's some Lena x Holly in the next chapter.

 

[Mr. Muscles]

Is it a dealbreaker with Lena if Ian gets anything spicier from Holly on their book trip? I mean, they are not in a relationship yet, but who knows. I haven't gotten that far. Struggling between the Holly or Cindy choice atm.

 

[helioss555]

Depends on your definition of abuse. He certainly made her cry multiple times during their relationship with his controlling attitude and jealous fits of rage. She explains it to Ian that it wasn't just a single moment of cheating that made her break up with him. Cheating was just a final nail in the toxic relationship.

Not canon post-Remastered version. He doesn't jerk off, he watches for a bit, then leaves. Just like Lena does with Louise and Jeremy.

i forgot about the remastered version, I apologize

 

[helioss555]

There is Ian... depending on how you play him

It would be boring if every guy was decent

it would but there are ''almost'' none in this game in my opinion kek.

 

[sday98]

whackest debate of all time going on in this thread

 

[BloodyMares]

Is it a dealbreaker with Lena if Ian gets anything spicier from Holly on their book trip? I mean, they are not in a relationship yet, but who knows. I haven't gotten that far. Struggling between the Holly or Cindy choice atm.

It's a temporary deal-breaker. As long as you don't start dating Holly, Lena can forgive Ian in Chapter 9 if you don't make it worse by arguing and they can start dating again, but there won't be a relationship-defining talk.

 

[Mr. Muscles]

It's a temporary deal-breaker. As long as you don't start dating Holly, Lena can forgive Ian in Chapter 9 if you don't make it worse by arguing and they can start dating again, but there won't be a relationship-defining talk.

Thanks for the answer, I guess I'll just have him not do anything with Holly then.

Also, are there "bad" consequences later on if Lena went ahead with Stalkfap and Seymour's photoshoot? At the start, it made sense to try those in order to get more cash (roleplay-wise), but then Lena automatically began posting some crazier stuff and the same happened/is happening Seymour. If it's possible to ignore both things and not have a homeless Lena later on, I might ignore them on my next playthrough if a "positive" scenario eventually arrives for Lena instead, for example, her musical/model career takes off. I don't mind spoilers. Thanks again.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Thanks for the answer, I guess I'll just have him not do anything with Holly then.

Also, are there "bad" consequences later on if Lena went ahead with Stalkfap and Seymour's photoshoot? At the start, it made sense to try those in order to get more cash (roleplay-wise), but then Lena automatically began posting some crazier stuff and the same happened/is happening Seymour. If it's possible to ignore both things and not have a homeless Lena later on, I might ignore them on my next playthrough if a "positive" scenario eventually arrives for Lena instead, for example, her musical/model career takes off. I don't mind spoilers. Thanks again.

You get railroaded into problems with Seymour no matter what choices you make. Along with some Ian/Lena/Holly trifecta weirdness on the book-fair route, it's one of a very few plot-points in the game where Eva forces the player's hand to a greater extent than usual. I assume these are several plot-points she planned as pivotal regardless of what route you're on.

So go ahead and score some cash from Seymour. Just don't slut it up too much at the shoots if you want Lena to retain some personal agency by the end of the current content.

Stalkerfap: Hard to say yet. I think mainly it just makes her more lewd and opens up more sex possibilities, so far at least. Probably also required for the obligitory future porn path and for the Ed path if that one ever happens. But there could be other consequences coming. The only other negative I can foresee so far is plenty more of that godawful horny/wicked tongue-bite expression that Eva seems to think communicates sexiness in lewd scenes. (It doesn't. Far worse than Ahegao face).

 

[Canto Forte]

Lena is a girl getting hit on everywhere she goes.
She does not need Axel, who is violent with her on a day by day basis
and the asshole, just like Jeremy is a whoremonger,
they work their assets right, the money or the natural trope of their complexion.
They are manipulative and gropey and molesting girls,
also the fact that players get to push Lena into the assholes and this game
makes her forget what they are because of their sex is a trope in itself.

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Replay Lena's dates with Ian where she tells him about their relationship, as well as the very prologue where she's crying in the alley. That scene takes place chronologically before Axel's shenanigans with Cherry. Relationships are built on more than sex.

I just replayed it... she didn't break up with him at that point, they just had a minor argument. According to Lena in this sequence she says "But it's nothing really serious", and then she leaves Ian and goes back to Axel who is waiting for her in a car. She broke up with Axel because of Cherry. Period. She says that she liked it rough with Axel. Period.

The point is, someone claimed that Axel was abusive to her, and that is quit simply not true. Yeah, they had minor relationship problems, who doesn't. but it wasn't enough for her to leave him and the rough sex was not a problem for her, SHE SAID SO!!! SHE SAID SHE LIKED THAT ABOUT HIM! What she didn't like was him FUCKING ANOTHER WOMAN, which makes sense, and that is why she left him. Period. She says so. I don't get how you totally ignore what the game actually says and insert your own ideas?!

She absolutely didn't leave Axel because he was physically abusive, which was what someone else implied and it blatently false. Maybe they had other normal, minor (according to Lena) problems as most relationships do, but she liked the rough sex, so it wasn't abuse and she left him because he cheated... that's what the game clearly states.

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no,jill is not a slut, but a rich spoiled virgin who has never worked a day in her life while lena has 2 jobs to make ends and then again gives money to her parents for her father s cancer,and in connection with ian,he just can't get his ex girlfriend out his mind, what problems does DIK mc struggle with??

Lena has no problems, just stuff in her head about how to give into assholes left and right.
Just like Lena only meets Ian half way through and she would have to actively reject
a number of assholes up until then, Jill has not found anyone to bring to her friends with
marriage potential until the before last update where MC is introduced and they go bang.

Good things are worth the wait and pretty much like Lena is getting hit on hard everywhere,
by assholes no less, Jill has been living with the hitting asshole most of her life,
the water mellon guy.

 

[soprano31]

Lena is a girl getting hit on everywhere she goes.
She does not need Axel, who is violent with her on a day by day basis
and the asshole, just like Jeremy is a whoremonger,
they work their assets right, the money or the natural trope of their complexion.
They are manipulative and gropey and molesting girls,
also the fact that players get to push Lena into the assholes and this game
makes her forget what they are because of their sex is a trope in itself.




Lena has no problems, just stuff in her head about how to give into assholes left and right.
Just like Lena only meets Ian half way through and she would have to actively reject
a number of assholes up until then, Jill has not found anyone to bring to her friends with
marriage potential until the before last update where MC is introduced and they go bang.

Good things are worth the wait and pretty much like Lena is getting hit on hard everywhere,
by assholes no less, Jill has been living with the hitting asshole most of her life,
the water mellon guy.

no one says that jill has to live there with tybalt,that she is going to work or at least has the character to stand up for her own,look at josy!!and marriage potential??do you really think mc DIK thinks about that?

 

[Canto Forte]

IF you are a DIK you do not get any of that ... Jill shuts you down early.

DIK thinks about that

Nobody is making Lena sleep where she does,
with the girl Remy cheats on and the perv,
either. She got friends and her not moving in with any of the assholes
gamers can push her into is just bad form and another game trope.

 

[soprano31]

IF you are a DIK you do not get any of that ... Jill shuts you down early.



Nobody is making Lena sleep where she does,
with the girl Remy cheats on and the perv,
either. She got friends and her not moving in with any of the assholes
gamers can push her into is just bad form and another game trope.

that lena does it with jeremy,louisse,or whoever she chooses,what real decisions did jill ever have to make in her life?and what kind of REAL friends does lena have??