VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[BloodyMares]

Or is it as difficult to make Chapter 10 as those 5 chapters combined?

Yes.

BloodyMares how many saves would you estimate are necessary to cover all the routes? As few saves as possible, if combinig the routes.

I don't know... How many combinations of 10-digit numbers you can enter on your num-pad? Read my guide and see for yourself. I pretty much use the dev console to swap between routes. Considering the amount of characters you can date / impact with your actions, as well as various jobs you can pursue... if you're making saves for Ian and Lena dating as well as just being friends, well, it's twice the amount of saves already (relationship with Lena affects every other relationship). Working for Seymour vs not working for him creates completely different playthroughs as well. You'd have to discover it on your own I'm afraid.

but why taking away decission for the player? I mean what is the reason behind the decission? I mean it would be a cool conflict and drama between jeremy and ian from a story perspective or lena,ian,holly if lena cheats with ian or holly ian together and ivy corrupts her and ian gets betreayed this are all cool storys I love forming my cheracters and make my own decissions and kinda control the narritive of the story(this is one of the main reasons why I love this game so much that I can make my own story ).

Because Jeremy doesn't sleep with girfriends of his "bros". If Lena commits to Ian, Jeremy would have to stop banging her. But considering that you decided to play Lena as a BBC-craving slut, she decides to follow her passion rather than committing to a guy. Without committing, she can keep banging Ian and Jeremy no strings attached.

BloodyMares Did this change with the rework? When Ian slept with Holly in my original play through it caused Lena to "break up" with him.

No, it's the same. She gets mad at him but they have a talk in Chapter 9 and can make up.

Ian and Lena can both pursue Holly but not at the same time and while not dating each other.

 

[Asmodean2]

Perhaps the timeskip would be useful after chapter 10 to not only advance the story, but also to reduce story variations to a more manageable level (condensation into a number of main outcomes)

 

[pavlogrk]

It took 219 days for Eva Kiss to make 5 chapters (from Chapter 2 to Chapter 6). And it is already 197 days since she started developing Chapter 10. Incredible.
Are you going to tell me that Chapter 10 is going to have as much content as those 5 chapters? Or is it as difficult to make Chapter 10 as those 5 chapters combined? Or someone got rich and lazy?

ARe you new to the thread?
Because she has mentioned as to which chapter you can compare the upcoming chapter 10!!

 

[JohnnyKiss]

Perhaps the timeskip would be useful after chapter 10 to not only advance the story, but also to reduce story variations to a more manageable level (condensation into a number of main outcomes)

I wonder how long would take for Eva to develope the final chapter with all of the endings variations

 

[kolram]

ARe you new to the thread?
Because she has mentioned as to which chapter you can compare the upcoming chapter 10!!

I wouldn’t mind finding out the comparable length of CH 10 as well but I’ll be buggered if I’m going to slog through 300 pages of squabbling and complaints to find out…

Guess I’ll just wait and see.

 

[lifehacks]

I wouldn’t mind finding out the comparable length of CH 10 as well but I’ll be buggered if I’m going to slog through 300 pages of squabbling and complaints to find out…

Guess I’ll just wait and see.

Taken from Eva Kiss' patreon weekly status report (15):

"...content wise, this chapter is already as long as chapter 9, and will be even longer than chapter 7, which so far has been the longest with +22.000 lines of code.

I can't assure if the length of a single play-through will be longer though, since a lot of the content is mutually exclusive, but there will be a lot to discover for those that go through the game several times, trying different options. And that's the main reason writing this chapter is taking so long: every single scene is layered"

 

[kolram]

Taken from Eva Kiss' patreon weekly status report (15):

"...content wise, this chapter is already as long as chapter 9, and will be even longer than chapter 7, which so far has been the longest with +22.000 lines of code.

I can't assure if the length of a single play-through will be longer though, since a lot of the content is mutually exclusive, but there will be a lot to discover for those that go through the game several times, trying different options. And that's the main reason writing this chapter is taking so long: every single scene is layered"

Thank you very much.

 

[Tallyhoe]

but why taking away decission for the player? I mean what is the reason behind the decission? I mean it would be a cool conflict and drama between jeremy and ian from a story perspective or lena,ian,holly if lena cheats with ian or holly ian together and ivy corrupts her and ian gets betreayed this are all cool storys I love forming my cheracters and make my own decissions and kinda control the narritive of the story(this is one of the main reasons why I love this game so much that I can make my own story ).

I think she just doesn’t want to write herself into the corner by have Ian getting cucked by Jeremy. Story may get too complex than it already isif you have to account for Lena ’cheating’

 

[JohnnyKiss]

I think she just doesn’t want to write herself into the corner by have Ian getting cucked by Jeremy. Story may get too complex than it already isif you have to account for Lena ’cheating’

But the last Chapter already ended with both of them cheating... I don't see an issue if Lena cheats on Ian, again.

 

[kolram]

But the last Chapter already ended with both of them cheating... I don't see an issue if Lena cheats on Ian, again.

I think it’s more an issue of who she’s cheating with. She likes Ian, Going behind his back with his best bud would likely kill the budding relationship, and Ian’s friendship with Jeremy, stone dead.

 

[Princess Groundhog]

Can’t wait to have Lena cheat on Ian with Gillian

 

[soprano31]

Can’t wait to have Lena cheat on Ian with Gillian

this is better,
holly takes her vitamins

 

[JohnnyKiss]

I think it’s more an issue of who she’s cheating with. She likes Ian, Going behind his back with his best bud would likely kill the budding relationship, and Ian’s friendship with Jeremy, stone dead.

Isn't Ian literally doing just that? Cheating on his girlfriend, with the girlfriend of his friend? And Lena can sleep with her friend's boyfriend (Jeremy)?

 

[kolram]

Isn't Ian literally doing just that? Cheating on his girlfriend, with the girlfriend of his friend? And Lena can sleep with her friend's boyfriend (Jeremy)?

Sure.

But Lena doesn’t know that (and she isn’t trying to start a relationship with Louise).

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

Isn't Ian literally doing just that? Cheating on his girlfriend, with the girlfriend of his friend?

Who?

 

[kolram]

Who?

Cindy.

 

[BloodyMares]

I think it’s more an issue of who she’s cheating with. She likes Ian, Going behind his back with his best bud would likely kill the budding relationship, and Ian’s friendship with Jeremy, stone dead.

This, exactly. Jeremy plays a huge role in Ian's part of the narrative. Sure, they can have their disagreements over Alison or Ian might reprimand Jeremy for stringing Louise along, but nothing major happened that might completely ruin their friendship. Lena cheating on Ian with Jeremy would result in this outcome because Ian can't be left in the dark forever (at some point Ian's ignorance would become too much to suspense disbelief). It's one thing to destroy relationship with Wade by pursuing Cindy, at least that's something the player is prepared to deal with, but Ian losing his friend because of something Lena did, well, not only is it unfair but also creates an entirely different narrative. Perry and Wade would side with Ian and most likely stop interacting with Jeremy as well. Then it might impact Ian's friendship with Alison if she's hooking up with Jeremy and doesn't support Ian through his second heartbreak. Louise would also be ruined by Lena's betrayal because Ian would most likely want to tell Louise about all of Jeremy's shenanigans behind her back. I don't think I need to go on, it's already obvious how complicated this branch would get if it was allowed to play out.

 

[BloodyMares]

Isn't Ian literally doing just that? Cheating on his girlfriend, with the girlfriend of his friend? And Lena can sleep with her friend's boyfriend (Jeremy)?

The key difference is Jeremy is Ian's best friend. The working analogy would be if Ian cheated on Lena with either Louise or Ivy. Lena doesn't care about Cindy so it would only impact her relationship with Ian but other than that everything will be like usual (she doesn't interact with Cindy or Wade). Ian on the other hand would lose his friend because of Lena's cheating and Jeremy being a hypocrite. If Ian on the other hand decided to start sleeping with Ivy, I don't think Lena would be able to keep Ivy as her friend, and that would equally result in a huge mess depending on whether Holly is involved with her or not.

 

[RoboticCatDogHybrid]

Anyone know what pornstar Gillian is based on my based brochachos? Or is she not based on anyone like the hot azz August Ames for Allison.

 

[BloodyMares]

Anyone know what pornstar Gillian is based on my based brochachos? Or is she not based on anyone like the hot azz August Ames for Allison.

The faces for characters are mostly custom with exception of Emma and Cindy who are clearly based on Abella Danger and Nancy Ace. If Gillian's role will be limited, there's no need to base her on any pornstar. She could be based on some fairly unknown model or a stock photo.