VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

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Gicoo said:
Too soon to know. They only have one coffee date in this chapter.
Both Jesses are not looking for a plain fuck, they had plenty of them in the past and are done with them. I know this is outragous in a porn game, but people don't seek social activity exclusively for sex.

Good Jess just looks for company and new friends. Maybe she is down for some swinging that even includes Ashley/Dave, but I wouldn't count on it.
Bad Jess doesn't want to be reduced to her past pornstar status, but doesn't trust anyone, since no decent person like Ashely/Dave ever entered her live. Ian can very likely get her, but only through smooth talking and not acting like a douche.
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I'm sorry, I ran through the game many times, but only yesterday I noticed that Jessica can be bad or good. Actually the question is what affects her condition? How to make it good and how to make it bad?))
 
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And one more question. I remember exactly that in past passages, I fucked Minerva, and in the passage it is written that it is possible, but in yesterday and the day before yesterday and in what happened about a week ago, I was not in the way of Minerva. Actually, how to get on her way?
 
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bloodyasura said:
I'm sorry, I ran through the game many times, but only yesterday I noticed that Jessica can be bad or good. Actually the question is what affects her condition? How to make it good and how to make it bad?))
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depends if lena is a good girl than you get good jess or if she is slutty than you get bad jess
 
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The bug reports for the Alpha have come and the Beta should be ready in the next few days. But while we're busy with that, I'm making the Alpha version available for the Friends with benefits patrons too, so you can access the new chapter if you don't want to wait.

The Beta version will iron out the various bugs and have the scenes gallery completed, and I'm also preparing some improvements and a whole new extra scene for the complete release. Can you guess which character will it be centered around?
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It's gonna be a Robert scene 100%. I hope she makes Emma's scene longer, maybe moving it to after the concert instead of before so they are not so pressed for time.
 
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What'sNew said:
A Cherry scene perhaps? On that note, I'm interested in seeing Ian's reaction to Cherry going to Blazer with Axel in ch 11.
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This can be particularly interesting if Ian enters love route with Cherry in chapter 9. That meeting was one hell of a way to find out the girl he's set his sight on has apparently gone back to the guy she was in love with and is now allegedly dating him.
 
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dontcarewhateverno said:
AFAIK, that heavier teasing dialogue is available for both an Ian that hasn't slept with Lena (basically interchangeable with Stan) or an Ian that has slept with Lena but:

1. Subscribed to Lena's Stalkerfap (even dirtier if Lena takes special requests from patrons)
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2. Ian has shown insecurity to get that cuck tag with "one of the best?".

I think it was also the right design decision to not to award a cuck variable for "it turns me on" for exactly the reason you stated. There are people who swing or enjoy showing their S/O off without that masochist cuck element involving getting off at the thought of someone better in the sack banging their partner. Using that to add to a cuck variable could invariably yuck those players' yums and spoil the enjoyment of their playthroughs, which isn't great game design. It seems like the "turns me on" selection will be used as a requirement for some of that content though and will surely affect both Ian's reactions and the conflict/peace of their relationship, but won't railroad players into the cuck path. Which is a better way to handle it, imo.

For the effectiveness of that fetish, I also think it's better design kink-wise for it not to be 100% willing at first, which makes that "one of the best?" choice pretty well-designed. Unlike many games of that genre ["Hello honey I wuld like u for to be big slut now." "....Ok!"], intuitively selecting from behaviors based on both insecurity and arousal is more effective in fulfilling the kink, in which some loss of control provides a spicier element. These sort of games are best designed ideally with a little bit of proverbial mind-reading into player psychology.
Though I have a feeling Eva may go too far into some mean-spirited, professional cringe-porn direction, like she did with the awful Eric doormat route at the end of GGGB. At that point, it's not even a relationship. Just abuse. And it's implausible what would keep both characters together without love and respect for each other.

More could've been done for the variable in earlier phone incidents though. A lot of opportunities for Eva to easily do a quick retcon on invisible stats.
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My biggest issues with the pornified version of the kink are the two things you mention: Either the choice to let the partner sleep around / show themselves off etc. is presented as completely trivial and unproblematic for both parts; or it's solely driven by a masochistic desire to humiliate their partner. As you say, that's not even a relationship. Plausible in a toxic relationship that has gradually spiralled out of control for a long time? Maybe, at a stretch. But not at all in a relationship where two persons recently decided to be together because they care for and like each other a lot.

I agree that the "one of the best" choice was really well written/designed. It's the kind of small, but important situation I think often is excellently done in this game. So much of their characters resonate in that scene; Ian's issues from his previous relationship and the insecurity he feels about Lena's modelling job and her exes; and how it can be such a turn-on for Lena to use guys' sexual interest to control them.

Ironically the photoshoot that makes use of the cuck-variable, is a lot closer to the flat porn version. Here Lena's decision to deny Ian seems much more masochistic, and the dynamics between them remind more of Ashley and doormat Eric. I think it would be fairly easy too to tone it down and make it fit better with the previous scene and their whole relationship: Lena decides to deny him as more of a whim to tease him, without necessarily meaning it -> Ian surprisingly takes it seriously and doesn't really object -> Lena instinctively loves how much control she has of the situation, and lets it continue -> Lena is conflicted afterwards, liking how it played out while still acknowledging that it might not be the most healthy way to treat your new boyfriend. If Ian realises that he might have crossed the line when he asks about Axel in the handjob scene, it would be reasonable if Lena did the same when she denies Ian sex and makes him listen to her description of how good it feels to have Robert's cock deep inside of her. As it is now, it's one of the sex scenes that are most clearly breaking the existing boundaries, but still it's among the ones with the least internal monologue.
 
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italianstallionxxx said:
I wish there was a way to help Wade to stop being a sad sack.
Sorry bro i love you but if Cindy Is going to fuck around Is going to be with me and not that fucking psycho Axel.
Sorry bro you just got cucked
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Actually there is a route to strengthen their relationship and probably keep them together in the end. At one point you can tell Wade he needs to fight for Cindy (unless this was changed in the remaster).
 
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GrigoriRasputin said:
Actually there is a route to strengthen their relationship and probably keep them together in the end. At one point you can tell Wade he needs to fight for Cindy (unless this was changed in the remaster).
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That's in chapter 4 but it only slightly increases Cindy-Wade relationship rating (which can be on level ranging 0-2) and the max rating is obtainable in other ways (like telling Cindy she should bring Wade to the photoshoot when she asks Ian to do it)
 
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So i noticed that for you to embrace Alison in chapter 9 (basically get into a more serious relationship with her) you can't be in love with Lena and you can't be dating Holly.

What gives? Why can i date Lena but can't date Holly? I doubt there's ever gonna be a threesome opportunity involving Alison and Lena (or anyone really if you get serious with her) so i'm assuming it's just meant to create additional drama.
 
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mannice431 said:
What gives? Why can i date Lena but can't date Holly?
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I'd presume this is because while variables are named the same their actual use is somewhat different -- lena_dating marks a stage with Lena/Ian hooking up casually while going out. holly_dating is effectively actual dating, and it's treated on par with _love stage for other girls in game script.
 
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