VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

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BloodyMares

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camube said:
I can't really fathom "someone in that position" in real life would ever choose to be defiant to his boss in his internship in terms of "realistic probability". It's plausible but the probability for someone in that position to choose to be defiant.
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Which is why I always pick "Switch reviews with Holly" because in my opinion that allows Ian to play along but also try to figure out if Minerva really hates him for his work or if she's full of shit. What follows next is a bit too bold for Ian, calling her out in front of the entire office. Realistically, he'd just be certain that she's full of shit but keep quiet about it, with exception of maybe spreading rumors about her weird bias against him. Plus, in that route Holly knows that she doesn't seem to care about her writing either, only sucking up to her because of her success which pushes them closer. So in my "realistic" playthrough he gets together with Holly while being friends with Lena and trying his best to act professionally in front of Minerva while shitting on her books in his personal blog to vent his frustrations.
 
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camube said:
I replayed ORS earlier this week with a playstyle where I try to play based on the informations the game gave me about Ian and Lena (so far during each chapters).

And while controlling Ian in early chapters, I feel that it's really hard for me to make Ian be defiant in his internship place towards Minerva.
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In my playthrough when push came to shove i had Ian ultimately toe the line Minerva wanted (as much as he hated it) because of pretty much what you say; it was the most pragmatic, "adult" move that seemed to fit Ian's default character. Even switching reviews, while an appealing option, carried a risk of Minerva taking it out on Holly afterwards, and it didn't seem to me Ian was selfish enough at that point to take such gamble without player's push.

I think this is why the defiant move earns a willpoint -- because it's something out of Ian's comfort zone.
 
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camube said:
I replayed ORS earlier this week with a playstyle where I try to play based on the informations the game gave me about Ian and Lena (so far during each chapters).

And while controlling Ian in early chapters, I feel that it's really hard for me to make Ian be defiant in his internship place towards Minerva.

Early on, what we the players know about Ian is that he's a 26-years old "loser", so to speak.

In real life, had Ian choose to be defiant towards Minerva and misread the dynamic with her, (in that Minerva hate the defiant attitude it instead of being hot about it), Ian would be out of the internship.
Then he would be even worse off in terms of having to depend on his dad even more.

I can't really fathom "someone in that position" in real life would ever choose to be defiant to his boss in his internship in terms of "realistic probability". It's plausible but the probability for someone in that position to choose to be defiant.

Yeah it's "adult game logic" and things aren't that realistic but choosing to be a dick in an internship position of which the character have little option is a bit stretching it in terms of believability I feel.
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So, defiant behavior leads to exactly this. She confronts him with the fact that she kicks him out and here you either continue to be defiant and lose your internship, or I don’t remember what the other option is and stay and fuck Minerva.
And about the fact that hardly anyone would behave like this in real life, well, here it is, the game starts from the moment when Jan sort of decided to move on and change, right? And since it changes, why not take a chance?))
 
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dontcarewhateverno said:
I know I've already pimped this game a number of times, but fans of EvaKiss' GGGB and ORS may really like this title, which just got a minor update today. Much bigger update next month, or earlier if you're on their patreon. Corruption. M/F Protag (in a unique way. M is F's manager & she's the focus, with some personal agency of her own). Nice 2d art in old-print comic book style. Strong writing. It's highway robbery that this dev doesn't get more love. https://f95zone.to/threads/tabletop-pornstar-v0-2-basilicata.75111/

One nice thing about this game/story (and one reason EvaKiss fans may like this) is that you actually feel for the main characters. Great immersion vs most AVNs out there.
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Honestly tried it a few times but found it incredibly boring. Scenes few and far between, the dice mechanic removes most of player agency and it just felt like a grind with little pay-off. Far far better games here than this TTPS if you are looking for something similar to ORS/GGGB
 
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ffive said:
Both Alison and Cindy are like that, with some obvious flaws that imo make them more likable due to realism than unlikable due to nature of flaws themselves :v
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I feel like most characters in this game pretty realistic, its just unlike Alison and Cindy they not neccesary trow all they flaws at you due to the nature of their character, like Cherry for example, Alison likes to complain about her life and she is pretty self centered and has some insecurities(she ask you about Lena like atleast 3-4 times, even if you dont date her, she is obviously in love with you and afraid to lose you to competition), Cindy has early "midlife" crisis so she has alot of grow and self discovery going on, Cherry has alot of baggage behind her, Emily seems like the most laidback but even she has her political shtick at times, i feel like the most cliche is probably Holly(feels like every porn/romance game has "Holly"), dont get me wrong, she is not bad or anything, a bit generic maybe in terms of her problems and character grow in general.
Lena is not very realistic but she is a protagonist so i cant really blame her(3 jobs and potentially 5+ lovers +onlyfans, always looks perfect and not mentally unstable considering her schedule at her age).
Ian has similiar problems but his situation is more believable imo.
 
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Lemix said:
I feel like most characters in this game pretty realistic (..)
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I agree, some of them are just overall "nicer" than others and it can get a little into "too nice to be real" territory, so these with blatant flaws wind up standing out more. On this note, can't believe i forgot Louise. Poor Louise, she's totally right: no one loves her /s
 
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ffive said:
I agree, some of them are just overall "nicer" than others and it can get a little into "too nice to be real" territory, so these with blatant flaws wind up standing out more. On this note, can't believe i forgot Louise. Poor Louise, she's totally right: no one loves her /s
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I hate how Lena treatment of Louise is so inconsistent in this game, they are friends at first, then you either betray her or warn her about her bf, after you fuck her your relationship suffer so much(and not in BDSM kind of way, not talking sex but everything else), Lena constantly ignores her and cockblocks her, treat her like shit for no reason(again, not how BDSM works), you can be nice to literally every character in the game(with exeption to Axel/Cherry for now), but your friend Louise is exeption for some fucking reason, you dont have any option to be nice to her it feels and she obviously has some kind of mental disorder, feels like she is bipolar and has some abandonment issues, but i'm not an expert.
Its like author hates her for no reason, if you want to go full lesbian as Lena you go for Holly and Louise, you treat Holly like a queen while Louise is just some stress relief, would be awesome if she got some character grow at some point, there also some kind of stalkerish vibe i get from her(she calls me out on me fucking Holly and teasing Stan close to end content).
So maybe she will snap at some point.
 
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I did not like Alison's character mostly due to her need to be the center of Ian's attention. However, I believe that she only blocks the Holly path completely. Ian can fuck both Cherry and Emma atleast once while on the Alison path. However, I think she turns to Jeremy at the first chance when Ian rejects her which is possibly her play at trying to get Ian jealous enough to pay her some attention.

Fair play to her. She knows what she wants and would give Ian almost anything to get him as her boyfriend.

Not my favorite path to play tho.
 
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camube said:
I can't really fathom "someone in that position" in real life would ever choose to be defiant to his boss in his internship in terms of "realistic probability". It's plausible but the probability for someone in that position to choose to be defiant.
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I don't think it's so unrealistic. Ian has some ego and views himself as a capable writer and senses that Minerva has it in for him (which she does). I could easily see him losing his temper one morning and snapping at her. You're right that it would generally not be the smart thing to do. If Ian were my friend in real life and I heard about his situation, I would tell him to play it cool until he gets another job. But I've seen plenty of real life examples of people flipping out at work, yelling at their boss, etc.
 
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Groribas said:
I did not like Alison's character mostly due to her need to be the center of Ian's attention. However, I believe that she only blocks the Holly path completely. Ian can fuck both Cherry and Emma atleast once while on the Alison path. However, I think she turns to Jeremy at the first chance when Ian rejects her which is possibly her play at trying to get Ian jealous enough to pay her some attention.

Fair play to her. She knows what she wants and would give Ian almost anything to get him as her boyfriend.

Not my favorite path to play tho.
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She also blocks Cindy pretty sure.
Cindy, Holly and Alison do not mesh very well.
 
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