VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.5] [Eva Kiss]

[Socrambus]

Because they are? It's in the code, I think. You can max charisma in the last chapter and after that if story progress awards additional points to that branch it doesn't add anything beyond 10.

You can't go beyond 10 so far, the same as you couldn't go beyond 10 in relationships until it got expanded to 12. And there has been several "soft" limits since the beginning where you didn't get an attribute increase if you already were beyond a certain number that got expanded chapter by chapter. I see no reason to necessarily assume 10 will be the hard limit for the whole duration of the game.

 

[ffive]

Mmmh, I find it weird for EK to have the "vanilla" Gillian content be gatekept by having to watch her get fucked twice in Ian's dream. It fits for a cuck route, but not for vanilla players imo.

The thing that throws me off is that you get this choice when all you see is Gillian and presumably her new boyfriend kissing, and the flag which is supposed to mean "give in" doesn't get set only if you explicitly choose that "yes i want to see my ex getting fucked" follow up, but also if you pick initial ... option which is then rendered as Ian being just too stunned to react but not actively consenting or wanting to see that.

The second dream doesn't give you any choice in that regard, and just uses whatever option the player picked the first time.

It'd be just too weird to me to railroad Ian on the cuck route simply because he was like "wtf is going on" instead of immediately screaming "wake me up, wake me up!" the moment his ex showed up in a dream. Especially since the ... is pretty much his first reaction to seeing Gillian in any context in the game so far, so i feel it's pretty normal option to pick.

I wanna fuck her with Lena..

I have a perfect scenario just for this:
* Ian and Lena get in relationship
* then they break up because Lena fucked Axel
* Lena gets back to Axel, and heartbroken Ian gets back to Gillian
* then they accidentally all meet
* Lena cucks Ian by fucking Gillian, and Ian cucks Lena by fucking Axel

it ends up all symmetrical, meaning it's a great story

 

[Xupuzulla]

You can't go beyond 10 so far, the same as you couldn't go beyond 10 in relationships until it got expanded to 12. And there has been several "soft" limits since the beginning where you didn't get an attribute increase if you already were beyond a certain number that got expanded chapter by chapter. I see no reason to necessarily assume 10 will be the hard limit for the whole duration of the game.

I was going to say,EK changing the code limit should be easy.
Is possible to reach lvl 10 in easy mode now?

 

[Gicoo]

Why are you assuming attribute levels will top at 10?. Relationships levels currently top at 12 for example.

10 is the maxed out stat when you start the game through cheat mode. Its also the highest stat in the character cards. Relationship levels are something independent of the stat levels.

It's also pretty strange the lack of a boyfriend in any of Gillian's pictures. I'm not sure if it would mean there's a reason for that or it's just Eva overextending the mystery of the boyfriend's identity just for the mystery itself.

The account is new and Gillian contacted Ian to have him see it. If she is entirely satisfied with her boyfriend, she wouldn't offer her ex for a date and befriend him. Its clear she has some relationship issues with her current boyfriend and is interested in Ian, hence she contacts him and doesn't mention her boyfriend. That this plausible characteristic interlines with the narrative intent to keep the boyfriend a secret from us is independend from each other (but quite effectively utilized).

 

[samirmemore]

Will my man Ed ever get an action?

 

[GokutheG]

Will my man Ed ever get an action?

No. The dev decided he wouldn't be a route early in development.

 

[Fellas]

Mmmh, I find it weird for EK to have the "vanilla" Gillian content be gatekept by having to watch her get fucked twice in Ian's dream. It fits for a cuck route, but not for vanilla players imo.

Maybe the vanilla route will be accessible to Ian who has moved on and blocked her? Then Gillian would have to make more of an effort, similar to slut Holly. I doubt the last time Ian who moved on sees Gillian is online when he blocks her. So next time they run into each other Gillian might try to force a hangout and if Ian accepts that would open the path up? Just spitballing here.

There's a dream scene without involving cuckoldery though. Here, where Ian deleted her pictures, still thinking about her, and can't escape the wheel.

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Even then the option to react to her following Ian's social media will still be displayed, whereas The Ian who has moved on will automatically block her.

 

[BlandChili]

I have a perfect scenario just for this:
* Ian and Lena get in relationship
* then they break up because Lena fucked Axel
* Lena gets back to Axel, and heartbroken Ian gets back to Gillian
* then they accidentally all meet
* Lena cucks Ian by fucking Gillian, and Ian cucks Lena by fucking Axel

it ends up all symmetrical, meaning it's a great story

I know you're cooking, but ideally no lesbian content is gatekept by needing to get with any men first

 

[ffive]

There's a dream scene without involving cuckoldery though. Here, where Ian deleted her pictures, still thinking about her, and can't escape the wheel.

This seems like side-effect of continuing old save, or playing earlier build of the game. In the current release:

    if v3_gillian_stop:
        $ gillian_stop = True
        scene summerroom with long
        jump v12summerday3morning

If Ian has deleted Gillian's pictures in Ch.3 then the game should automatically omit the dream sequence and simply have him wake up in the morning.

The variant you have on screenshots will now trigger if Ian didn't delete the pictures, doesn't have any new love interest and interrupted the first dream.

 

[swiver]

There was a change made in that scene since initial release. Gillian now offers Ian to meet for a coffee if Ian hasn't moved on and admits as much. Also, Ian that did move on automatically rejects her social media request.

shame, there should be a variant where she is thursting. It could be like with Jess, a variant of her own (un)happiness in the current relatioship/situation..

Yep. Either way I don't think Gillian would invite Ian for no reason and I also think that reason isn't to just outright cuck him. From her dialogue I think she misses Ian and regrets what she did. So if the coffee date goes well I can absolutely see it ending in the bedroom, which is what I meant with the vanilla/maledom route.

This can't be squared with the obvious foreshadowing EK has done for a Gillian cuck route. Yes, the dreams are also mentioned in the Lena cuck route, but thats a very minor purpose for them and they can still happen without that route. So I think there will be a branch in how Gillian is written based on the dreams happening or not, allowing for both routes to exist.

I'm not following, what was the foreshadowing bit?
Also, by cuck content with her you fetishized stuff like what we can get with lena or just she dumps him again or voyeurism like? because it would take some gymnastics by EK to build a relationship involving a knowing Gillian entertaining such a fetish..
maybe a pity scenario or something IDK..
but interested what ya'll mean/know, either thru discord or more intimate knowledge of different paths (i haven't played anything without at least one LI for example)..

 

[Xupuzulla]

Will my man Ed ever get an action?

NopeSeymour update soon through,the other old man is going to try something with Lena for sure

 

[0tt0von]

NopeSeymour update soon through,the other old man is going to try something with Lena for sure

Looks like it'll be well into 2025 before I can move forward with the only 2 playthroughs I do Lena and Holly 2getha 4eva and Lena's Lesbian Haram. Oh well beggars can't be choosers but we can be whiners.

 

[Erectosaurus]

Surprised anyone wants a “vanilla” Gillian route given she already cucked Ian and doesn’t seem particularly remorseful about it even still being with the guy she cheated on him with.

But I guess the same could be said for a Lena who gets involved with Axel again.

 

[BlandChili]

Surprised anyone wants a “vanilla” Gillian route given she already cucked Ian and doesn’t seem particularly remorseful about it even still being with the guy she cheated on him with.

But I guess the same could be said for a Lena who gets involved with Axel again.

I think people who want "vanilla" Axel are pretty rare though. You are probably either into maledom or you avoid him

 

[Xupuzulla]

I think people who want "vanilla" Axel are pretty rare though. You are probably either into maledom or you avoid him

To be fair,making Lena going back to him is being handled way better than that Gillian mess

 

[Erectosaurus]

any word on the best girl aka Cindy?

If Ian didn’t use the right dialogue with her she probably fell for Axel’s bullshit and he owns her now.

If he did say the right words then the Axel threat is probably over but now Ian has to break it to a potentially emotionally unstable Wade that he fucked his gf.

On top of that there’s an unused image in the game’s files showing her sucking a BBC so there’s that too.

In summary it’s not looking too great for Cindybros

 

[Reddig1979]

If they can't make a relationship last quit trying to make them be in one and it can be hopefully you n future it can work out for them. Until then stick in something or hop on for a ride. Have fun until really ready to settle down and they can put insecurities behind them. They are basically mid to upper 20s pretty sure there are more that the pool of people given. No need for more than another 2to 3 chapters . They all need to find no friends there is no loyalty. It can finish here , lens decides to move away with Seymour become a whatever she will be, Cindy falls in love with Perry have family live on, wade wade marries ivy ends in divorce she becomes an escort , Jeremy realizes he is a 2 pump chump and can't fully satisfy a woman but For 15 seconds, ian married Minerva, Holly marries Marcel and Allison and other girls are a lesbian cult of fisters. Seymour becomes world most wanted for unauthorized gay porn with axel the end

 

[Erectosaurus]

What the fuck did I just read

 

[ffive]

Surprised anyone wants a “vanilla” Gillian route given she already cucked Ian and doesn’t seem particularly remorseful about it even still being with the guy she cheated on him with.

She keeps apologizing to Ian over it, so it's not like she isn't sorry or anything. At the same time since she chose that guy over Ian in the first place and they broke up over it, it'd be pretty silly for her to abandon him just because her now-ex is sore about it.

As for vanilla route -- people grow up or experience things and can change their views. That includes who they want to be with.

 

[ffive]

To be fair,making Lena going back to him is being handled way better than that Gillian mess

You never know, maybe we'll get Punish Gillian option, too.