VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.5] [Eva Kiss]

[ffive]

Second time through, it occurred to me maybe Ivy had given her drugs. Probably not against Holly's will, but in this route Holly has been well accustomed to submitting to Ivy's desires whether she really wants to or not. It's also completely possible, as has been said, that Holly was interested in trying the drug. But at the moment it's all very unclear. (It also lends support to BlandChili's idea that it would have been better for Lena to have been present with Ivy and Holly, so both she as a character and we as players know better what happened.)

We have seen Ivy take party drugs on her own multiple times, regardless if Lena wants her share too. I'd say it's just her idea of how to have fun, that goes along with casual fucking. So it's perfectly possible she simply shares this idea and practice with Holly, because she thinks that's a way for Holly to have more fun, too. And Holly evidently seems to be onboard with it and does enjoy it.

You may as well wonder if Wade and Ian pressured Holly into taking drugs while at the beach house, what with Holly being supposedly soooo submissive and all. But i don't remember people here wringing hands over that.

 

[BleachIT]

is the Jmod getting updated anytime soon ?

 

[Prevat]

The updates play like Eva has run out of steam and lost her vision for this game.

 

[HaremGamesHater]

I believe the best decision, for the future of ORS, would be to kill Ian's POV.

Fixed

 

[manscout]

We have seen Ivy take party drugs on her own multiple times, regardless if Lena wants her share too. I'd say it's just her idea of how to have fun, that goes along with casual fucking. So it's perfectly possible she simply shares this idea and practice with Holly, because she thinks that's a way for Holly to have more fun, too. And Holly evidently seems to be onboard with it and does enjoy it.

You may as well wonder if Wade and Ian pressured Holly into taking drugs while at the beach house, what with Holly being supposedly soooo submissive and all. But i don't remember people here wringing hands over that.

There is a difference between trying some drugs during a vacation and then being taken care of while just chilling the rest of the evening and trying some drugs and then your supposed friend is like "yo wanna go to a gloryhole and suck like 7 dicks while I take pictures and share them without your consent lmao".

Like, the gloryhole event is obviously intended for Holly's corruption arc with Ivy so it is very stupid for people to act like the Holly that goes through with it is the same innocent little angel of the romance routes, but Ivy is still the one doing the corrupting. This hardly makes Ivy a villain since it is unlikely Holly's corruption arc will have a tragic ending, but she's still (and always has been) kind of an asshole and a bad influence.

 

[fortuna95]

Lena is surely BBC addicted half of dozens toys were not enough

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[portiamento]

Hi I remember there's used to be WT mod? Is it got discontinued?

 

[Geigi]

Lena is surely BBC addicted half of dozens toys was not enough

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Just like Ashley.

 

[aftvisajoke]

I like how Lena ripped Ian's head off
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[JoJoPool]

Hi I remember there's used to be WT mod? Is it got discontinued?

If you're talking about the JDMod it has its own thread and it takes a little while to be updated for the public

 

[ffive]

There is a difference between trying some drugs during a vacation and then being taken care of while just chilling the rest of the evening and trying some drugs and then your supposed friend is like "yo wanna go to a gloryhole and suck like 7 dicks while I take pictures and share them without your consent lmao".

Why, both sound like perfectly good fun times to me.

What makes you think that the pictures were shared without Holly's consent?

Like, the gloryhole event is obviously intended for Holly's corruption arc with Ivy so it is very stupid for people to act like the Holly that goes through with it is the same innocent little angel of the romance routes, but Ivy is still the one doing the corrupting. This hardly makes Ivy a villain since it is unlikely Holly's corruption arc will have a tragic ending, but she's still (and always has been) kind of an asshole and a bad influence.

"Corrupting" is such bullshit concept i don't think i can roll my eyes hard enough at it.

Ivy is just teaching Holly how to have fun, in a way that Ivy herself views as fun and supposedly partakes regularly. It's not like Holly is 12 and can't choose not to hang out with Ivy, if she didn't like what Ivy lets her experience. I hardly think this makes Ivy in any way an asshole, or a bad influence, unless we're going to claim that being sexually open and having fun is something bad that no girl should have her hand in? It can be a pretty tall claim when in the meantime player-driven Lena potentially sucks all the dicks and fucks everything that moves.

 

[Christ P Bacon]

The face emotion of Lena and few NPCs are getting overdramatic imo

 

[notstaged]

What's confusing? Doing something on your own volition and doing something that's caused by influence/coercion/blackmail etc. is different.

Nothing, really. We can probably frame it as Ivy just being a good friend to Ian, eliminating his potential future market competitor or even a rivaling novelist.

 

[boobthief]

An introverted and very weak willed Holly is peer pressured into doing drugs. There is a power disparity here. It's pretty coercive compared to homegirls passing each other drugs. But whether it be drugs or cocks that she is high on, Ivy and Lena are real fucked up people in this route, for real lol. Because let's face it, Eva took the dive into the corruption spiral. It's no longer a nuanced look of perhaps a shy girl breaking out of her shell with some sex positive message from her close friends. It's two horrible sluts corrupting a girl who had a bright future ahead of her.

Not all drugs are bad, some are great!

You are the same person before going in and taking and the same person after taking, but you both probably had a mind-expanding amazing experience while up.

Don't blame the drugs for your behavior. Consider your options and decisions, carefully, so you can make your own informed choices.

Also, don't slut shame because you're "pure" i.e. have not made anyone orgasm. Try doing The Sex. Maybe leave the drugs until later.

 

[Xupuzulla]

No all drugs are bad,all Ivys in all saves are canon pieces of shit through.
Is not about the drugs,is about the person behind the graduation,the gloryhole experience of hell.
Ivy FUCKING Feynman.

 

[LaVinotinto]

Fixed

Here's a better fixed:

I believe the best decision, for the future of ORS, would be to kill Axel

 

[CreativeCritic2]

My read on Holly is that she's a dilettante... there's one beach scene where she talks about how she wants to move away from Young Adult to writing actual erotica and I can imagine her wanting to 'research' that type of stuff by experiencing it for herself.

My read on Holly is that she spends the entire story desperate to be 'shown the ropes' and while there are threads where Ian or Lena basically take it upon themselves to seduce Holly, it is also possible for the MCs to kind of ignore Holly leaving the door open to Ivy who is almost completely without scruples - She hooked up with Axel without telling Lena, she manipulated Jeremy away from Louise during the drinking game, and she not only pushed Lena towards nude modelling but also towards taking drugs.

I don't have any problem believing that Ivy could drug Holly, get her riled up, and then drag her to a gloryhole. She doesn't care about Holly... to her it's just fun and hot.

The question of assuming responsibility for Holly is a thread that runs through the rest of the story too as there's a Minerva scene where she notes Ian's connection to Holly and not only dumps him but warns him away from Holly because she's easily influenced and too pure for this world.

To me, this all seems reasonable... it just needs a bit more connective tissue explaining it and it shouldn't appear in any run where Holly is involved with either Ian or Lena.

 

[jollyjoker27]

So, the other question is: Would Ivy just randomly suck a cock sticking through a gloryhole, when she intends to "play" Holly? Or is it more likely that they probably both beamed themself way out of their minds?

 

[boobthief]

No all drugs are bad,all Ivys in all saves are canon pieces of shit through.

All drugs are bad: That's what they told ya.

Ivy seems like fun, liberating excitement in this game. Are you saying Ivy is a piece of shit? For why?

Is not about the drugs,is about the person behind the graduation,the gloryhole experience of hell.
Ivy FUCKING Feynman.

I guess the glory hole enjoyer is one Holly path that can be played. Feynman lectures: is it physics???

Sorry, don't understand you?

 

[Zirael Q]

Ivy-Ian content in this episode?