VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.5] [Eva Kiss]

[Xupuzulla]

Future,
>Celebrated author
>3 times boxing champion of C̶a̶m̶b̶r̶i̶d̶g̶e̶ baluraut
>Homewrecking genius
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All those those things but he can never be a tall man,damn

 

[varpep]

All those those things but he can never be a tall man,damn

 

[Nifferman]

The unrealistic part is not Wade dating Cindy(hes supposed the handsome in game,even Ivy says it) the unrealistic part is leaving him for a 1,75 writer who cries about her ex,talk about low standards for your cheating

U and your obsession with Ian's height.

 

[Xupuzulla]

I think we can all agree Cindy should be cheating with Axel,it just makes sense for her to do it with someone outside the Wade friends bubble.
This is not hating on Ian im just saying facts

 

[Gicoo]

I think we can all agree Cindy should be cheating with Axel,it just makes sense for her to do it with someone outside the Wade friends bubble.
This is not hating on Ian im just saying facts

Cindy can't cheat on Wade, since they have broken up.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Cindy can't cheat on Wade, since they have broken up.

Im talking about all the previous chapters,Cindy meets Axel in what chapter?3 or 4?

 

[Nifferman]

Im talking about all the previous chapters,Cindy meets Axel in what chapter?3 or 4?

She didn't cheat then

 

[Nifferman]

I think we can all agree Cindy should be cheating with Axel,it just makes sense for her to do it with someone outside the Wade friends bubble.
This is not hating on Ian im just saying facts

Looks like Xupuzulla has been taken over by mommyboii

 

[Hungover00]

Looks like Xupuzulla has been taken over by mommyboii

Yeah, I definitely do not agree that Cindy and Axel should have anything to do with one another. It won't piss me off, but it's not content I would want. Why do people feel like their opinion is shared by the rest of the world? The world is hella divided, it's pretty rare to find people who agree about things past 'water is often wet.'

 

[AndreDA]

Of course Cindy that is not on love path with Ian should be involved with Axel going forward, what else is there to do with the character based on the story so far? My only problem is that she got railroaded onto the slutty path and breaks up with Wade no matter what. There should be 3 options for her - keep her good and loyal and with Wade, corrupt her and deliver to Axel on a silver platter or get together with her.

 

[Hungover00]

Of course Cindy that is not on love path with Ian should be involved with Axel going forward, what else is there to do with the character based on the story so far? My only problem is that she got railroaded onto the slutty path and breaks up with Wade no matter what. There should be 3 options for her - keep her good and loyal and with Wade, corrupt her and deliver to Axel on a silver platter or get together with her.

There may be a third path. Wade and her break up, he realises what he's lost, works on himself, wins her back. Maybe she didn't fuck Axel during the breakup (maybe was smart enough not to get involved with someone at work), or maybe that's something Wade has to live with.

I have no source for that though, just speculation. Like how you could guide those two together in GGGB, or help Perry with Emma or Cherry is ORS.

 

[CreativeCritic2]

I certainly feel that more could be done with Wade at a dramatic level... at the moment you can ignore him, dunk on him to win points with Cindy, or be super-supportive and try to help him put his life back together and I don't feel it makes a huge difference beyond whether or not you want to hook up with Cindy.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Dont worry,guys,Wade-Lena pure love route is starting soon.
My boy Wade is going to be fit and a esport champ by the end of the game

 

[CaiWez]

Unfortunately, Ian is kinda hardcoded to get pissed off at Jeremy who has been hooking up with Lena and reveals that to Ian. So, their relationship is given to be in a poor place at that point, even if they're otherwise friends.


* Ian needs to tell Jeremy he has feelings for Lena in Ch.7 (ian_lena_love flag is set true)
* Ian has to choose to stop thinking about Gillian (gillian_stop flag is set true)
* Lena needs to have feelings for Ian: cuddle up after sex in Ch.7 and pick "I love you!" option during sex in Ch.11 (lena_ian_love flag is > 0.5)
* Lena has to move on from Axel (either don't have sex with Axel in Ch.9 or don't check his texts, don't masturbate thinking about him and choose "Snap out of it" in Ch.10) and pick "I want to be with Ian" option in Ch.12
* Lena can't get together with Axel in Chapter 12 (lena_axel_fuck flag is set false)

If all these conditions are met then during the talk at the beach in Ch.12 both Lena and Ian will automatically agree to become a couple.

I did all this and didn't get it. Lena got the option " I want to be with Ian " with heart icon but Ian only got two options — " I can't " with heart broken icon and " I can see her just as a friend " with will point icon. Any solution?

 

[GokutheG]

I did all this and didn't get it. Lena got the option " I want to be with Ian " with heart icon but Ian only got two options — " I can't " with heart broken icon and " I can see her just as a friend " with will point icon. Any solution?

Is Ian still hung up on Gil?

 

[ffive]

I did all this and didn't get it. Lena got the option " I want to be with Ian " with heart icon but Ian only got two options — " I can't " with heart broken icon and " I can see her just as a friend " with will point icon. Any solution?

So, the problem here is that you end up in this this branch if Lena made moves on Jeremy that ended in sexual stuff in Ch.8 onwards (or fucked around with other guys at the club) Because then Jeremy reveals that to Ian in CH.12 and it activates ian_lena_crisis flag:

// chapter 12_a
    elif ian_lena_dating:
//...
        if ian_lena_love:
//...
            # sleeping around
            if lena_axel_desire or lena_mike_dating or v11_mark_sex or lena_jack > 2 or v11_bbc or v8_jeremy_sex or v10_jeremy_3some:
                $ ian_lena_crisis = True

// chapter 12_b
            if lena_ian_love and ian_lena_crisis == False:
                i "It would make sense for us to take things one step further, wouldn't it? If that's how we both feel..."
                menu:
                    "{image=icon_ring.webp}I want to be with her" if ian_alison_love == False and ian_cindy_dating == False:
//...
                    "It's not a good idea":
//...
            else:
                i "I'm setting myself up for failure here. What am I even trying to accomplish?"
//...
                menu:
                    "{image=icon_broken.webp}I can't":
//...
                    "{image=icon_will.webp}I can see her just as a friend" if ian_will > 0:

You'd have to limit Lena/Jeremy to only giving him a blowjob in Ch.7 during Ivy's game. And avoid other situations listed in the check (Axel, Mike, Mark, Jack and Marcel)

Ironically, fucking Robert is apparently fine. :hidethepain:

 

[CaiWez]

So, the problem here is that you end up in this this branch if Lena made moves on Jeremy that ended in sexual stuff in Ch.8 onwards (or fucked around with other guys at the club) Because then Jeremy reveals that to Ian in CH.12 and it activates ian_lena_crisis flag:

// chapter 12_a
    elif ian_lena_dating:
//...
        if ian_lena_love:
//...
            # sleeping around
            if lena_axel_desire or lena_mike_dating or v11_mark_sex or lena_jack > 2 or v11_bbc or v8_jeremy_sex or v10_jeremy_3some:
                $ ian_lena_crisis = True

// chapter 12_b
            if lena_ian_love and ian_lena_crisis == False:
                i "It would make sense for us to take things one step further, wouldn't it? If that's how we both feel..."
                menu:
                    "{image=icon_ring.webp}I want to be with her" if ian_alison_love == False and ian_cindy_dating == False:
//...
                    "It's not a good idea":
//...
            else:
                i "I'm setting myself up for failure here. What am I even trying to accomplish?"
//...
                menu:
                    "{image=icon_broken.webp}I can't":
//...
                    "{image=icon_will.webp}I can see her just as a friend" if ian_will > 0:

You'd have to limit Lena/Jeremy to only giving him a blowjob in Ch.7 during Ivy's game. And avoid other situations listed in the check (Axel, Mike, Mark, Jack and Marcel)

Ironically, fucking Robert is apparently fine. :hidethepain:

So Lena can't be fooling around with Mike or Mark at the club in chap10 at all? What's the condition for the lena_mike_dating flag?

 

[ffive]

So Lena can't be fooling around with Mike or Mark at the club in chap10 at all? What's the condition for the lena_mike_dating flag?

Yes, if Lena fucks someone at the club then Ian hears about it from Jeremy and doesn't want relationship with her anymore.

For lena_mike_dating it is activated in Ch.6 if Lena chooses to sext him and sends him a selfie. Not 100% sure but technically you can have a freebie sex with him in Ch.5 without consequences, i think.

 

[Gicoo]

The Stan "romance" path is probably the most ridiculous/unbelievable "path" in a visual novel/kinetic novel/dating sim in recent history.

It's just baffling how empty the route is and then skyrocks by it being entirely one-sided affection from Stan (he is not the problem in that regard, it makes perfect sense how and why a shy loser would fall for his hot kind room mate), but Lena... just not having any thoughts about him and a potential relationship with him. What does she feel about Stan and why?

Currently we have no reason for Lena to like Stan, even though you can make something up that is in line with her character and personality.
- She is an older sister and used to troublesome people in her family and her friend circle (Louise, Ivy, Holly), so believing to be responsible and pitying and patronising them is a direction she can easily take, she has a hang to overwork herself and take the load of many other people.
- Stan could be a welcome change from her past relationships, overconfident, dismissive bulls who push her around and use her. Aside from the matter that Stan isn't so much a positive than merely an absence of negatives and would likely be just as bad as Axel if only he could. The cuck/sexless Ian path emphasized how Lena loves to be in sexual control in contrast to her past abuse with Axel, so with Stan it could similtaniously elaborated on how she likes being the one in charge.

As said multiple times, one of my issues with Stan is that he is too bad and has no positives. Even scum like Arthur or the nobodies like Robert and even newbe John have some basic features that justify to hang out with them. As an example, you can't have something made cheap, high-quality and fast, at least one of the three features has to be reversed (expensive, low quality or slow). But with Stan its more like he is expensive, low quality and slow, no one would ever want a product like him.

Good attributes for a partner would be 1. physical attractiveness, 2. reliability/kindness and 3. charisma. Stan is 1. ugly, is 2. unsure of himself, unable to provide for a partner and also 3. highly introverted, awkward and uncharismatic. If he would succeed at least in one of three points it would make it much more convincing for anyone to be interested in him. Say he is still shy and a nuisance relationshipwise, but has a physical treat (admitably that route is taking by many other male love interests of Lena). Or he is still ugly and uncharismatic, but kind and emptional emphatic, able to take responsible and provide, foreseeing his friends needs (thats a good route akin to Ashleys dad once he recovers). Or he is ugly and unreliable, but still very confident and charming.

 

[Geigi]

It's just baffling how empty the route is and then skyrocks by it being entirely one-sided affection from Stan (he is not the problem in that regard, it makes perfect sense how and why a shy loser would fall for his hot kind room mate), but Lena... just not having any thoughts about him and a potential relationship with him. What does she feel about Stan and why?

Currently we have no reason for Lena to like Stan, even though you can make something up that is in line with her character and personality.
- She is an older sister and used to troublesome people in her family and her friend circle (Louise, Ivy, Holly), so believing to be responsible and pitying and patronising them is a direction she can easily take, she has a hang to overwork herself and take the load of many other people.
- Stan could be a welcome change from her past relationships, overconfident, dismissive bulls who push her around and use her. Aside from the matter that Stan isn't so much a positive than merely an absence of negatives and would likely be just as bad as Axel if only he could. The cuck/sexless Ian path emphasized how Lena loves to be in sexual control in contrast to her past abuse with Axel, so with Stan it could similtaniously elaborated on how she likes being the one in charge.

As said multiple times, one of my issues with Stan is that he is too bad and has no positives. Even scum like Arthur or the nobodies like Robert and even newbe John have some basic features that justify to hang out with them. As an example, you can't have something made cheap, high-quality and fast, at least one of the three features has to be reversed (expensive, low quality or slow). But with Stan its more like he is expensive, low quality and slow, no one would ever want a product like him.

Good attributes for a partner would be 1. physical attractiveness, 2. reliability/kindness and 3. charisma. Stan is 1. ugly, is 2. unsure of himself, unable to provide for a partner and also 3. highly introverted, awkward and uncharismatic. If he would succeed at least in one of three points it would make it much more convincing for anyone to be interested in him. Say he is still shy and a nuisance relationshipwise, but has a physical treat (admitably that route is taking by many other male love interests of Lena). Or he is still ugly and uncharismatic, but kind and emptional emphatic, able to take responsible and provide, foreseeing his friends needs (thats a good route akin to Ashleys dad once he recovers). Or he is ugly and unreliable, but still very confident and charming.

I wonder if Holly is like Stan, would she be still desirable? One would argue that yes just because she's a girl. Ugly women always have the chance to be likeable to someone, unlike ugly men which is unfair tbh.