VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

[Canto Forte]

Well, thank you for sharing all of that.
The poll was wrong all along.

There's already so much I wish I could show you...

I want to give you content, as much as possible and as fast as possible, both to keep you happy and engaged and for my own sake too. I want to share the fruits of my work, and it gets pretty stressful when too much time goes by

There is actually only one pinion dev wanted:

Do you want me to release what I got tidied up for release
right now, should be released in 5 to 10 days?

Opinion 1 - yes, please dev, show us what you have been tinkering for the past 10 months!

Opinion 2 - no, thank you, we like to wait and wait and wait!

There it is ... game is bugged in the opinions department, is all.

 

[BorgiaBou]

Poll:
Release Chapter 10 as a whole - 80%
Release Ian and Lena's POVs separately - 20%

Okay guys see you next year with a release, thank you patrons, no wonder these devs are doing whatever the fuk they want when they have this kind of ppl supporting them and basically suffer no consequences whatsoever...

 

[mommysboiii]

Well.. long story short, (from my perspective)
Playing as a chad Ian has its perks however, some players who hates cuck/ntr paths will be limit themselves with skipping those scenes.
On the other hand, All those cuck/ntr scenes will be considered as 'cheating' for Lena MC. I feel more free when I play as female MC. I can do whatever I want without worrying for a scene that I don't like. Hell I can get together with Axel just to cheat on him with Stan. And I won't feel bad about it.
As a summary, Let's say 10 scene made for each Ian and Lena. Ian has 4 ntr scene and 6 other scenes, then I will be playing only 6 scenes. However, I can play all 10 scenes as Lena since cheating as female MC won't bother me at all.
Male MC is great if there is no NTR/Cuck path in it. However, I would vote on Female MC all day if dev is trying to satisfy everyone's fetish.

can I be honest with you I dont understand this logic so cuck stuff lena good?kinky slutty stuff lena good? and cuck or kinky stuff ian bad? unless its a chad ian?I really dont understand this logic

 

[Aratorn]

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announcing I was planning on releasing Chapter 10 in two parts, separating Ian and Lena's POV, most of you voiced your concern and disagreement with that choice, and I can see why. So, obviously, a poll is in order to decide what should be done.

I tried to explain my reasoning a bit, but in the end I also share your opinion and I'd prefer to release both POV together. But at the same time I want to give you content, as much as possible and as fast as possible, both to keep you happy and engaged and for my own sake too. I want to share the fruits of my work, and it gets pretty stressful when too much time goes by and I'm not advancing at the pace I'd like. I try to convince myself quality takes time, but Patreon's subscription model almost demands for monthly rewards, and I just enjoy releasing content, but I want it to be content I can feel proud about. Anyway, there's plenty of reasons for and against this proposed release schedule, but in the end it's you patrons who get the final say on things like this.

I understand both options are problematic and will probably result in some people removing their pledges, but that's just the way it is and I'm fine with that. My goal has always been to create the best possible VN I can and hopefully you can enjoy that, so it's up to you if you want to experience Ian's part of the chapter first (it has about as much content as the entire chapter 5) or you prefer to wait until everything's completed, which I can't give an estimate time-frame yet (at least quite a few drawings from Lena's part are already completed, so it's not like starting a new development cycle from scratch).
So let me know your opinion down below and meanwhile I'll try to keep advancing the work as much as I can! There's already so much I wish I could show you...

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Poll:
Release Chapter 10 as a whole - 80%
Release Ian and Lena's POVs separately - 20%

I'm glad chapter 10 is going to come later. It's best to follow the dev's intuition than to take away her motivation and vision.
It is very much possible that for example she realizes she wants to change things in Ian's part after adding Lena's or vice versa.
Making a game takes time and care, rushing a developper is like begging to be disappointed by the final product and to find the necessary strenght to be an hypocrite that complains about it afterwards...

TLDR: Bite your time people, better a late but awesome release than a rushed and bittersweet one.

 

[Deleted member 53157]

I was Diva tier paying 19 £ each month but I will cancel my pledge due to Eva listening to whiners and delaying release of Ian part ( which means full release will be at least 5 month from now). I will just get the game from here when its released.

 

[Deleted member 53157]

I feel like Eva equating those who pat 2 £ with those who pay 20 £ is really disingenuous on her part. If you are going to make a poll equate voting power to support power.

 

[gymnopedies]

I was Diva tier paying 19 £ each month but I will cancel my pledge due to Eva listening to whiners and delaying release of Ian part ( which means full release will be at least 5 month from now). I will just get the game from here when its released.

You go from one extreme to the other, I give you everything and then I take it from you. Isn't a balance better?

 

[Deleted member 53157]

You go from one extreme to the other, I give you everything and then I take it from you. Isn't a balance better?

There are other, hardworking devs out there who have much better work ethic and regular release date, without the need of making melodrama or excuses.

 

[Canto Forte]

She needs to feel good about herself. She needs a milestone, she needs the recognition so she gets outta her head. She needs input and troubleshooting so she gets a breath of fresh air from the project,
take a week off while we play the game and then come back to see where she is at.

Dragging this long enough is dragging on her soul. She wants to show us all her hard work.

She needs the encouragement and while most just want to let her stew in her head some months longer,
she just wants to get out there with a brand new release, with a new concept, one that some other devs do also: Smaller updates of smaller signifficance but steamy scenes with only a couple of chars.

So many gamers want Lena that the pressure is crushing the dev, already falling behind
trying to make her skin and curves be spotless for the game.

 

[patachoucs]

The amount of salt here related to the overwhelming majority of patreons' decision is SOOOO satisfying...

(and yes, I'm a patreon of hers, and I picked "playing a full update")

 

[The_Searcher]

The amount of salt here related to the overwhelming majority of patreons' decision is SOOOO satisfying...

(and yes, I'm a patreon of hers, and I picked "playing a full update")

This reaction explains a lot.

 

[sauron93]

The amount of salt here related to the overwhelming majority of patreons' decision is SOOOO satisfying...

(and yes, I'm a patreon of hers, and I picked "playing a full update")

Ah.. The classic mentality of " I can't have it, so u shouldn't either ".. I don't mind waiting.. But this choice from patrons will definitely lose pledges, while the other option wouldn't have, imo

 

[gymnopedies]

There are other, hardworking devs out there who have much better work ethic and regular release date, without the need of making melodrama or excuses.

well, good for you, that's what people who think about how bad eva is should do, contribute, to give their opinion and stop contributing if they don't like it.
I will continue contributing, so I can continue giving, my opinion and I am glad that this time my vote has been the majority, so I will wait as I wished.

 

[gymnopedies]

Ah.. The classic mentality of " I can't have it, so u shouldn't either ".. I don't mind waiting.. But this choice from patrons will definitely lose pledges, while the other option wouldn't have, imo

next time be patreon and vote

 

[patachoucs]

Ah.. The classic mentality of " I can't have it, so u shouldn't either ".. I don't mind waiting.. But this choice from patrons will definitely lose pledges, while the other option wouldn't have, imo

Nope. Not even close. I don't care about that, you guys will continue to pirate the game anyway. It's the nature of the beast.

What does get to me though is the insane amount of, shall I say complaining instead of "bitching" even tho that's really what it is, that has been going on as of late. Some people want everything yesterday, without any ideas of how creative processes work at all, and no regard to the dev's vision, work, and health (be it mental or physical).

I for one voted for a later update because I knew Eva decided to do that because she felt peer pressured to release something, anything. But I felt it was hardly ideal and not a good precedent to create. I'd rather have updates be out when they're ready.

I'm glad she decided to have a vote. I would have accepted the result, whichever it was. But I'm glad to see I'm not the only one of her patreons, far from it (80% still), thinking it best to be patient. And have it when it's ready.

You always have a choice to stop supporting her if you're not happy with her work, and that's absolutely fair. That is, after all, what Patreon is all about.

What I can't stand is the sheer entitlement of some here who have never nor will ever pay for anything, support any devs, call them "lazy" and insult their work/work ethic. And for that, I'm taking great joy to see tears and read that they feel like they got cockblocked.

I guess if you want to actually weigh on what happens on the development of ORS, you should actually stop being cheap. And support devs.

 

[The_Searcher]

Oh if it was close I would have buddy.. It's pointless supporting a project that only caters to people who like throwing money and waiting for years for an update lol.. At this point I don't even blame Eva

It's totally easy money, judging by certain comments. We have the gaming world we deserve.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

The amount of salt here related to the overwhelming majority of patreons' decision is SOOOO satisfying...

(and yes, I'm a patreon of hers, and I picked "playing a full update")

I'm a F95 pirate and I fully support this desision.It was an example of democratic voting. Doing a whole update instead of a piece by piece is smart because a game with two main characters can't work piece by piece, it kills the interaction and atmosphere between Lena and Ian. I'm generally not a fan of the fact that patrons tell the developer how to make a game, but in this case, she herself asked the opinion of subscribers. And the decision was right, it's good that you convinced her to release a whole chapter.
And the whiners will certainly cry, some people are unhappy with life, with everything. I feel that the drama in the comments will start again and so on circlejerking until the next update.

Our Red String comment section today and in the coming days:

 

[sauron93]

Nope. Not even close. I don't care about that, you guys will continue to pirate the game anyway. It's the nature of the beast.

What does get to me though is the insane amount of, shall I say complaining instead of "bitching" even tho that's really what it is, that has been going on as of late. Some people want everything yesterday, without any ideas of how creative processes work at all, and no regard to the dev's vision, work, and health (be it mental or physical).

I for one voted for a later update because I knew Eva decided to do that because she felt peer pressured to release something, anything. But I felt it was hardly ideal and not a good precedent to create. I'd rather have updates be out when they're ready.

I'm glad she decided to have a vote. I would have accepted the result, whichever it was. But I'm glad to see I'm not the only one of her patreons, far from it (80% still), thinking it best to be patient. And have it when it's ready.

You always have a choice to stop supporting her if you're not happy with her work, and that's absolutely fair. That is, after all, what Patreon is all about.

What I can't stand is the sheer entitlement of some here who have never nor will ever pay for anything, support any devs, call them "lazy" and insult their work/work ethic. And for that, I'm taking great joy to see tears and read that they feel like they got cockblocked.

I guess if you want to actually weigh on what happens on the development of ORS, you should actually stop being cheap. And support devs.

Well.. All I want to say is, the dev or the fans supporting her decision shouldn't have a problem with people venting or voicing their frustrations here. Like u said, this is a pirate forum after all.. As long as they don't personally msg the dev or spam the discord server, it's fine imo..

 

[InkAndSaliva]

call them "lazy" and insult their work/work ethic

100% agreed. There's no bigger sign to me that someone's criticism in the gaming world is worthless than when they accuse devs, particularly indie devs, of being "lazy". Shows a shocking amount of ignorance and entitlement.

 

[gymnopedies]

As much as it is a pirate forum, and above all because it is a pirate forum, I want to read about the game, its theories or see the works of the fans, I do not want to see complaints from people who do not even contribute as if something is owed to them. I accept that from time to time someone complains but for days I have only seen very annoying whining

Well.. All I want to say is, the dev or the fans supporting her decision shouldn't have a problem with people venting or voicing their frustrations here. Like u said, this is a pirate forum after all.. As long as they don't personally msg the dev or spam the discord server, it's fine imo..