VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

[Socrambus]

I mean, even if the relationship went LDR, she still cheated, though. Being together for 4 years, you know the sex becomes kinda monotonous. She spiced it up with cheating. Why would Ian give a cheater a chance?

Maybe I'm wrong but to me it's pretty clear that Ian would have forgiven Gillian when it happened. The difference with Lena and Axel is that he didn't have a choice. Gillian didn't just cheat, he left him for the other guy and is still with him as far as we know.

Why Ian or any other person would give a cheater a chance?. It's something that I struggled myself to truly understand, but I probably have trust issues. I have not been able to even get into a relationship with someone who cheated on another guy with me. I can't stop the doubt of "if she did that to the other guy, why wouldn't she do the same to me?" and for me a relationship without complete trust makes no sense. Intelectually I can understand that some people can truly forgive other people mistakes and people can change and not cheat again. Also, some people are really terrified of being alone or too dependant on their partner, so they let them get away with anything.

 

[Eleanorduval]

Sex is for chumps anyways. Your right hand is your one true love.

Woman: Will cheat on you
Right hand: Literally made for you

Woman: Gets mad when you cheat
Right hand: Lets left hand have some fun too

i didn t recognize u with your new profil pics lol

 

[ffive]

he also knew Lena was cheating on him with Mike in one of his monologues at the beach. No, Jeremy didn't rat out Mike, but Ian caught the wind.

Hmm, i'm pretty sure that one comes from Jeremy too. It's just not spelt out specifically -- Jeremy has single text variant for any sex Lena had at the club (except for Axel who gets custom phrase about Lena's ex) While that generic variant doesn't delve into specifics, since that'd be extra work, i think we can sort of presume either Jeremy does tell Ian some more details during that talk, or EK simply slipped and didn't remember that Mike wasn't outright named.

 

[SearingFive]

Maybe I'm wrong but to me it's pretty clear that Ian would have forgiven Gillian when it happened. The difference with Lena and Axel is that he didn't have a choice. Gillian didn't just cheat, he left him for the other guy and is still with him as far as we know.

Why Ian or any other person would give a cheater a chance?. It's something that I struggled myself to truly understand, but I probably have trust issues. I have not been able to even get into a relationship with someone who cheated on another guy with me. I can't stop the doubt of "if she did that to the other guy, why wouldn't she do the same to me?" and for me a relationship without complete trust makes no sense. Intelectually I can understand that some people can truly forgive other people mistakes and people can change and not cheat again. Also, some people are really terrified of being alone or too dependant on their partner, so they let them get away with anything.

I've been on the receiving end when I was pursuing my higher education. Let me tell you, it's not fun at all. Once that trust is broken, it's hard to come to terms with that person. Personally I blocked that person and moved on and never looked back, even if they asked for forgiveness.

Your last line about being terrified to be left alone is the classic gateway to cuckoldry. I've seen and heard stories on how the partner manipulate this conundrum to their liking and take advantage of it. The world's a cruel place.

 

[avrildelauvergne]

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She looks like a prize, alright.

Holy shit she is lovely, just utterly lovely

A smart cute girl who is willing to go all slutty like this is an 11/10 experience

yes i miss my ex how did you guess that

 

[ffive]

Intelectually I can understand that some people can truly forgive other people mistakes and people can change and not cheat again. Also, some people are really terrified of being alone or too dependant on their partner, so they let them get away with anything.

There's some other aspects, too -- one, the jealousy over sexual exclusivity may fade with time, or if it's not a significant source of person's sense of self-worth to begin with. And two, eventually we may come to realize that people will often lie in relationships about many things and doing it about sex with someone else is just one of those things. Requiring absolute trust, i.e. the partner always tell nothing but truth and absolute truth and be completely and utterly loyal 100% of the time, it's simply something that can't be realistically expected from anyone.

 

[Socrambus]

Your last line about being terrified to be left alone is the classic gateway to cuckoldry. I've seen and heard stories on how the partner manipulate this conundrum to their liking and take advantage of it. The world's a cruel place.

Even without something like cheating or even worse like violence, I know some couples than for them being together is more like a routine than anything else. But they are afraid to break that routine, specially when there are things like properties, children and all that.

There's some other aspects, too -- one, the jealousy over sexual exclusivity may fade with time, or if it's not a significant source of person's sense of self-worth to begin with. And two, eventually we may come to realize that people will often lie in relationships about many things and doing it about sex with someone else is just one of those things. Requiring absolute trust, i.e. the partner always tell nothing but truth and absolute truth and be completely and utterly loyal 100% of the time, it's simply something that can't be realistically expected from anyone.

You have a point and I meant no disrespect to people that see things differently than I do. I already said I probably have trust issues, so that's on me. But I don't see complete trust in someone as expecting 100% truth and loyalty 24/7. People are entitled to their secrets and a lot of times it's even difficult not to lie to ourselves, so I don't expect my girlfriend to be completely open with all her thoughts and feelings. To be honest, that much sharing would probably make me uncomfortable. Trust is the reason why I don't need to know everything or being reassured beyond any reasonable doubt that she will be loyal. Because there is no doubt to begin with, I believe and expect she will be loyal to me in any situation. And what if she isn't?, well that's on her and the relationship would be over if that happened. I don't do jealously or manipulating games any more, it's way too tiring, toxic and pointless.

 

[vofeen]

does anyone know similar games? I mean this visual style - 2d

 

[Eleanorduval]

does anyone know similar games? I mean this visual style - 2d

i was about to ask the same lol

i made 2 save:

ian over gillian and not over.

i think i should make 2 save with ivy caught ian cheating and one not.I mean if want to have open relation with lena later,i should let ivy tell her about cindy/ian?

 

[varpep]

i think i should make 2 save with ivy caught ian cheating and one not.I mean if want to have open relation with lena later,i should let ivy tell her about cindy/ian?

I'll save you some time, don't. If Lena knows about Cindy, she will accuse Ian of cheating on her with Cindy which will lead to Ian automatically breaking up with Lena.

 

[Eleanorduval]

I'll save you some time, don't. If Lena knows about Cindy, she will accuse Ian of cheating on her with Cindy which will lead to Ian automatically breaking up with Lena.

nope in game if u choose the "option u are wrong",nothing will happen.She just told ian not fair for wade and she moved on.

see the right option in the screen

 

[varpep]

nope in game if u choose the "option u are wrong",nothing will happen.She just told ian not fair for wade and she moved on.

see the right option in the screen

When I did what you were planning to do, they broke up. But if it does work for you, do let me know. I would like to recreate it in my save.

 

[XDD258]

I know the next update will be on Ian's POV but I'm more curious about the Billy photoshoot event.I had Lena acting suspicious of Billy in most of my playthroughs and I hope it won't be similar to the Seymour update which you don't get to see anything if you don't have any relationship points with Billy.

 

[Eleanorduval]

When I did what you were planning to do, they broke up. But if it does work for you, do let me know. I would like to recreate it in my save.

no problem i will let u know! it only see one reason why it didn t work for u,eva kiss is angry with u

 

[SearingFive]

I know the next update will be on Ian's POV but I'm more curious about the Billy photoshoot event.I had Lena acting suspicious of Billy in most of my playthroughs and I hope it won't be similar to the Seymour update which you don't get to see anything if you don't have any relationship points with Billy.

You need to set a flag for Billy called - billy_model, The first 3 options you choose when Ivy introduces Billy to Lena at the party is the trust factor. If you then proceed to select the 2nd option, "I am not interested", Billy's arc is gone for good, like we had for Seymour. If you made Lena take drugs, then it's an auto yes and auto flag for billy_model or choosing "count me in".

 

[Hungover00]

You need to set a flag for Billy called - billy_model, The first 3 options you choose when Ivy introduces Billy to Lena at the party is the trust factor. If you then proceed to select the 2nd option, "I am not interested", Billy's arc is gone for good, like we had for Seymour. If you made Lena take drugs, then it's an auto yes and auto flag for billy_model or choosing "count me in".

I didn't realise you could completely shut down the Billy plotline. That's interesting.

 

[SearingFive]

I didn't realise you could completely shut down the Billy plotline. That's interesting.

If the party said they are not interested, you can't force them to join. Unless EK pulls something here that disregards that flag.
Right now, the scenario is

• Fully trusts Billy and agrees to go. Auto in drug mode.
• Give Billy's plan a try and agrees to go.
• Distrust Billy's plan but agrees to go.

Or totally shut his arc down by not showing any interest.

 

[dolfe67]

Then you can do a boring run with Lena: no Axel, no Seymour, no Billy, no Ian, only dating Robert

 

[Eleanorduval]

u can agree to do just photoshoot with axel or seymour without to have sex with them right?

 

[Hungover00]

u can agree to do just photoshoot with axel or seymour without to have sex with them right?

Technically yes...but I don't think I'd recommend it, if you aren't curious about their characters and plotlines. And have some Will on hand.