VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

[Blurpee69]

The line is for chad Ian but he falls down while failing to deflect the push.

 "He pushed Ian away with just one hand, so forcefully that he sent him tumbling to the ground."
                        $ flena = "mad"
                        l "What the hell do you think you're doing?!"
                        $ faxel = "n"
                        x "I didn't push him that hard..."
                        $ fian = "furious"
                        show ian at left with short
                    show ian at lef4 with move
                    if ian_chad > 3:
                        i "Touch me again and I'll beat the shit out of you."
                    elif ian_chad > 2:
                        i "What the fuck, dude?! You want to start a fight?"
                    else:
                        i "What's your problem?! Are you trying to start a fight?"
                    $ faxel = "n"
                    x "Calm down, cowboy. You'll get hurt."

Is this without factoring in athletics? Because I thought that Ian could also resist Axel's attempt to push him, by only taking a step back.

 

[Arken6666]

The line is for chad Ian but he falls down while failing to deflect the push.

 "He pushed Ian away with just one hand, so forcefully that he sent him tumbling to the ground."
                        $ flena = "mad"
                        l "What the hell do you think you're doing?!"
                        $ faxel = "n"
                        x "I didn't push him that hard..."
                        $ fian = "furious"
                        show ian at left with short
                    show ian at lef4 with move
                    if ian_chad > 3:
                        i "Touch me again and I'll beat the shit out of you."
                    elif ian_chad > 2:
                        i "What the fuck, dude?! You want to start a fight?"
                    else:
                        i "What's your problem?! Are you trying to start a fight?"
                    $ faxel = "n"
                    x "Calm down, cowboy. You'll get hurt."

not quite like that

 

[prpa]

Is this without factoring in athletics? Because I thought that Ian could also resist Axel's attempt to push him, by only taking a step back.

First it checks for jiujitsu or kickboxing score, and if they are lower than required, then it checks for athletics.

               if jiujitsu > 3 or kickboxing > 4:
                    "He tried to push Ian away forcefully, but Ian deflected his hand, avoiding being shoved backward."
                else:
                    if ian_athletics > 4:
                        "He pushed Ian away forcefully with just one hand. He staggered backward."
                    else:
                        "He pushed Ian away with just one hand, so forcefully that he sent him tumbling to the ground."

 

[SearingFive]

Is this without factoring in athletics? Because I thought that Ian could also resist Axel's attempt to push him, by only taking a step back.

Yup this scene has two phase checks. Refer to Prpa's post.

 

[GibboBtw]

First it checks for jiujitsu or kickboxing score, and if they are lower than required, then it checks for athletics.

               if jiujitsu > 3 or kickboxing > 4:
                    "He tried to push Ian away forcefully, but Ian deflected his hand, avoiding being shoved backward."
                else:
                    if ian_athletics > 4:
                        "He pushed Ian away forcefully with just one hand. He staggered backward."
                    else:
                        "He pushed Ian away with just one hand, so forcefully that he sent him tumbling to the ground."

And this is why we always make sure we get enough Gym time in for the main man Ian, Ain't no fucking way I'm ever gonna let him get punked by that fucking walking Aryan fantasy masterclass looking ass bitch.

pls Eva, let us have Ian kick the fuck out of him at some point, I beg.

 

[adanu]

And this is why we always make sure we get enough Gym time in for the main man Ian, Ain't no fucking way I'm ever gonna let him get punked by that fucking walking Aryan fantasy masterclass looking ass bitch.

pls Eva, let us have Ian kick the fuck out of him at some point, I beg.

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I for one hope we get an ally option for him. Hating people in RL is stressful enough without hating VN characters. Axel fumbled, but he's connected and fairly smart.

 

[GibboBtw]

I for one hope we get an ally option for him. Hating people in RL is stressful enough without hating VN characters. Axel fumbled, but he's connected and fairly smart.

By all means, That could be a fun route. But generally speaking, I think he's a massive cockwomble and I wanna see him get smashed. This MFer be trying to fuck over the MC on his Lena and Cindy routes.

Absolutely not, Unacceptable. That's two routes too many. Remove Aryan...

With violence preferably...

I wanna upload it to r/fightporn

 

[BlandChili]

I for one hope we get an ally option for him. Hating people in RL is stressful enough without hating VN characters. Axel fumbled, but he's connected and fairly smart.

I don't know about allying with him, but I wouldn't mind being able to use him to better Lena's options somehow.

So far it's all been either "resist Axel" entirely or "submit to him," there isn't really a mid-ground simply because he's either dominating when Lena gives him and inch, or raging because he's being denied said inch.

I have no real interest in his and Ian's rivalry, from his perspective I just want him to go away.

 

[Ray_D]

pls Eva, let us have Ian kick the fuck out of him at some point, I beg.

It will happen eventually, if I had to guess when it will happen, I would say after the MMA tournament is over.

 

[SearingFive]

That mofo always has his fist balled up like he's ready to scrap. What a clown!

 

[Vengeance_11]

Despite all the training he can do from the start of the game, Ian still struggles to spar against Jeremy and people think he could take on Axel, who would lay Ian out like he did Robert.

I’d want a fight between them just so Chad Ian can be knocked down a peg or two.

 

[SearingFive]

Despite all the training he can do from the start of the game, Ian still struggles to spar against Jeremy and people think he could take on Axel, who would lay Ian out like he did Robert.

I’d want a fight between them just so Chad Ian can be knocked down a peg or two.

The sparring was way before we levelled up Ian's max kickboxing/Jiu-Jitsu skills. The first opponent Ian fought was a dude weight-cutting from Jeremy's division to Ian's division. Gymgoers can scrap, no doubt but if they are pitted against an experienced fighter, they lose. You learn a lot in an actual fight rather than sparring and Ian did pretty well.

 

[GibboBtw]

Despite all the training he can do from the start of the game, Ian still struggles to spar against Jeremy and people think he could take on Axel, who would lay Ian out like he did Robert.

I’d want a fight between them just so Chad Ian can be knocked down a peg or two.

How dare you!

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[Vengeance_11]

The sparring was way before we levelled up Ian's max kickboxing/Jiu-Jitsu skills.

Axel isn’t going to care about Ian’s martial arts skills though, and I feel that will be the downfall of many players.

Not that it would matter since Axel is too big for Ian to perform any moves on him anyway. Even the toughest Ian would 100% be getting humbled.

 

[BlandChili]

Axel isn’t going to care about Ian’s martial arts skills though, and I feel that will be the downfall of many players.

Not that it would matter since Axel is too big for Ian to perform any moves on him anyway. Even the toughest Ian would 100% be getting humbled.

Well as you can see from how the game uses his skills already, as with this comment:

First it checks for jiujitsu or kickboxing score, and if they are lower than required, then it checks for athletics.

               if jiujitsu > 3 or kickboxing > 4:
                    "He tried to push Ian away forcefully, but Ian deflected his hand, avoiding being shoved backward."
                else:
                    if ian_athletics > 4:
                        "He pushed Ian away forcefully with just one hand. He staggered backward."
                    else:
                        "He pushed Ian away with just one hand, so forcefully that he sent him tumbling to the ground."

It's pretty clear that Axel will have to care about Ian's martial arts, since they are already making a difference.

No clue is that means beating him up, but Axel won't be folding Ian like a lawn chair either, that I feel somewhat confident in predicting.

 

[SearingFive]

Axel isn’t going to care about Ian’s martial arts skills though, and I feel that will be the downfall of many players.

Not that it would matter since Axel is too big for Ian to perform any moves on him anyway. Even the toughest Ian would 100% be getting humbled.

I never said Ian's gonna go unscathed. You are completely wrong about Axel winning the fight though. He's a 185cm dude while Ian is 175cm. Height doesn't mean shit when the guy is on the floor. You can argue that Axel is taller and has more range and reach, a kickboxer can overcome this with angles, leg kicks, and clinch work.

Technique trumps strength. In both BJJ and striking arts like kickboxing- leverage, timing, and precision matter far more than brute strength.

Fights are unpredictable. Environment, adrenaline, and mental toughness play huge roles. A smaller, more experienced fighter often keeps calm and controls the pace. We have seen Axel getting emotional pretty easily when he's about to start a fight.

 

[Ray_D]

That mofo always has his fist balled up like he's ready to scrap. What a clown!
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I guess it's eva's way of portraying axel as a guy who has little self-control.

Despite all the training he can do from the start of the game, Ian still struggles to spar against Jeremy and people think he could take on Axel, who would lay Ian out like he did Robert.

I’d want a fight between them just so Chad Ian can be knocked down a peg or two.

Well yes, eva programmed the sparring with jeremy that way, but despite that jeremy was not able to knock out his opponent despite his reach advantage. On the other hand ian can knock out and submit his opponent.

Axel isn’t going to care about Ian’s martial arts skills though, and I feel that will be the downfall of many players.

Not that it would matter since Axel is too big for Ian to perform any moves on him anyway. Even the toughest Ian would 100% be getting humbled.

Considering that eva did his homework by researching to make the MMA fight of the tournament. I think it's safe to say that if you went to the trouble of training ian correctly he will not only give axel a good fight but he can knock him out or even submit him with a headlock.

 

[GibboBtw]

I never said Ian's gonna go unscathed. You are completely wrong about Axel winning the fight though. He's a 185cm dude while Ian is 175cm. Height doesn't mean shit when the guy is on the floor. You can argue that Axel is taller and has more range and reach, a kickboxer can overcome this with angles, leg kicks, and clinch work.

Technique trumps strength. In both BJJ and striking arts like kickboxing- leverage, timing, and precision matter far more than brute strength.

Fights are unpredictable. Environment, adrenaline, and mental toughness play huge roles. A smaller, more experienced fighter often keeps calm and controls the pace. We have seen Axel getting emotional pretty easily when he's about to start a fight.

Nah mate, didn't you know. if you're bigger than the other dude. you auto win in fights. It doesn't matter if you have no idea what you're doing and the other guy is trained.

Big > Small

10/10 logic, can't be argued with lmao

 

[Hungover00]

Nah mate, didn't you know. if you're bigger than the other dude. you auto win in fights. It doesn't matter if you have no idea what you're doing and the other guy is trained.

Big > Small

10/10 logic, can't be argued with lmao

Before adding training, or Joe Pesci character crazy, that is pretty much true. Size wins most amateur fights.

But as soon as technique gets added to the equation, things can change drastically.

I don't think we've ever heard of Axel doing any martial arts. He comes across as a bully that's never really been challenged, that works out to look good, and has ridden off his genetics most of his life. So I think a trained Ian is going to surprise the fuck out of him.

 

[FactualAligator]

Axel isn’t going to care about Ian’s martial arts skills though, and I feel that will be the downfall of many players.

Not that it would matter since Axel is too big for Ian to perform any moves on him anyway. Even the toughest Ian would 100% be getting humbled.

I never said Ian's gonna go unscathed. You are completely wrong about Axel winning the fight though. He's a 185cm dude while Ian is 175cm. Height doesn't mean shit when the guy is on the floor. You can argue that Axel is taller and has more range and reach, a kickboxer can overcome this with angles, leg kicks, and clinch work.

Technique trumps strength. In both BJJ and striking arts like kickboxing- leverage, timing, and precision matter far more than brute strength.

Fights are unpredictable. Environment, adrenaline, and mental toughness play huge roles. A smaller, more experienced fighter often keeps calm and controls the pace. We have seen Axel getting emotional pretty easily when he's about to start a fight.

So here's a fight:

(sorry about the quality, it's what I could find on short notice)

I started it at the final round. The fight ends a little after the 25 minute mark. Henderson is 5'9", the same as Ian's given height. Thatch is 6'2", which is actually a little taller than Axel.

I'm just saying someone Ian's size winning against an Axel wouldn't be unprecedented.