VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

[ffive]

Fair enough but the original comment I was replying to go something along the lines of "if you consider having anything other than missionary sex "pretty freaky" then ok, but by that metric it'll be hard to find anyone in their mid-twenties to have nothing but missionary sex". First of all it's putting words in my mouth and twisting my argument as I never said having any sexual act other than missionary sex should be considered "freaky". It also doesn't specify which city or country so it is simply wrong. But I do concede that perhaps in a "liberal Western city" all of Lena's escapades with Axel won't be considered "freaky".

To clarify, in my post i didn't mention i was talking about Western countries and practices specifically because i thought it's self-evident given the context. Lena and her friends live in that cultural sphere, so i naturally presumed the discussion of her being a freak was framed in that perspective and not a "she's a freak when viewed from some completely different place in the world with very different standards".

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

I play Lena/ian path,cindy/ian affaire and ian/minerva.How about u?

There is just ONE Path for me, Bro : Ian x Lena (and Lola...her Cat)...without any kind of distractions....and with as much love as possible.

That means : Ian gives a shit about other girls....Lena doesn t care about other men (not at all).

Lenas Character traits : more into Music than into modeling; very loyal; very sexual..only around Ian; thoughtful; caring (Mom and Dad); Ian is her Bae; NO onlyfaps, no spicy modeling Pics, no Seymore, no Hotel work, no Drugs, no smoking, Lenas best friends are Holly and Emma (NO lesbian); normal dressed..and not looking like a cheap hooker; doesn t like clubbing; not a posh Girl;

There are only pretty normal friendships (like irl) with : Perry, Emma, Molly, Allison, Wade, Holly (these people are nice and normal)

Lowest Friendship Points for : Jeremy, Cindy, Ivy, Stan, Louise, Jessica, Ed

NON-existent and therefore disposable Character : Axel, Seymor, Minerva, Cherry, Robert, Mike, Billy

Well..thats pretty much my Gamepath....I didn t care about other paths and i don t want to see them. I like the chemistry between Ian and Lena too much. EK did a really good. If you play it like this way...it feels (almost) like a regular rel. with the ups and downs of live. I like that.

All the other wankers are getting an advice from Ian (if they want to hit on Lena) :

 

[Maviarab]

There is just ONE Path for me, Bro : Ian x Lena

 

[JM24]

To clarify, in my post i didn't mention i was talking about Western countries and practices specifically because i thought it's self-evident given the context. Lena and her friends live in that cultural sphere, so i naturally presumed the discussion of her being a freak was framed in that perspective and not a "she's a freak when viewed from some completely different place in the world with very different standards".

Well thanks for clarifying but my original point was Lena didn't just have sex other missionary, she also took photos with Axel while blowing him, tried anal with him and had a threesome. Surely not every Western girl has experienced all that right? But anyways I feel like we've been dragging on on this topic for too long so I'm happy to move on.

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

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Where have you been, Bro??? Missed ya...!

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

I think that's a bit of a superficial analysis of Ivy, you base too much of your impression of her on how she presents herself without considering her behaviour fully.

I think she does suffer from self-confidence issues like Louise, the way she expresses it is just different. We see her constantly promoting her lifestyle and trying to get Lena interested in aligning to a similar mindset, when Lena starts befriending Holly this effort is extended to Holly too if they encounter each other enough.

Ivy pretends to be disinterested in the Lena/Axel drama but she is the only one in Lena's ear who promotes a conciliatory approach to him and there are obvious questions to be asked about where her interests lie when we see that she's cordial with him herself and has an interest in keeping him as a professional contact, at least up until Cindy gets the Wildcats contract.

I don't know if this will all lead to open conflict, but I don't think it's entirely unlikely that Ivy might become more desperate if Lena steals all the thunder with Billy. We've seen her act possessive of him before when she stops Lena from flirting with Billy at her party.

My analysis might seem a bit superficial, I’ll admit, but given the current state of things, we don’t have much to dig deeply into Ivy’s personality, at least not with the same level of detail we have for other characters in the story.

For example, Ivy withheld information from Lena about Axel, supposedly from her point of view to avoid reigniting their conflict or upsetting her. She also seems to have used her good relationship with Axel to try and position herself for the Wildcats contract. However, it’s worth noting that despite all that, Ivy is also the one who gets Lena a photoshoot opportunity, brings up Peoplegram as a potential side hustle to earn money, and encourages Lena to make peace with Axel for the sake of landing the Wildcats deal.

So while Ivy’s methods are definitely questionable and she does some things behind Lena’s back, she still tries in her own way to help her best friend. It might not be the most moral or best support, but the intention seems to be there.

As for Billy, it also looks like she’s trying to get close to him in order to boost her chances of landing a job opportunity. But so far, based on her personality and what we’ve seen of her behavior, I don’t see any strong reason to believe this will lead to a clash or open conflict with Lena.

I get the sense that in Ivy’s mindset, it’s all about seizing opportunities when they come, and she tries to keep personal and professional matters separate. Even though she talks about sleeping with Billy, there are no strings attached or commitment involved. It’s just business and harmless fun for her.

Still, what she did with Axel doesn’t exactly come across as fair to her best friend, especially considering what she knows about their history.

I think there’s only one moment, maybe the night when Lena sleeps over, that Ivy briefly talks about her past. I believe she said she had been through some tough times and was grateful she could count on Lena during those moments, and that she truly cared about her.


After replaying that scene, Ivy does talk about shared romantic disappointments from their youth and their first lesbian experience together as a way to comfort each other. There isn’t much more information about Ivy’s life beyond that. We can probably infer that it’s not a lack of self-esteem given her strong confidence, unless it’s just a façade or a coping mechanism. It seems more like a certain fear of loneliness, being hurt, or committing long-term to someone, especially since she mentioned being cheated on by an ex-boyfriend. However, she seems to really care about her friendship with Lena, and what she’s trying with both Holly and Lena might be a way to continuously relive those youthful, magical experiences of sexual discovery and to bring Lena into her mindset.

She does seem to place some importance on her relationship with Lena, and perhaps on her side there is a fear of drifting apart or growing distant from her best friend. So far, she has not really shown possessiveness or overt clinginess. Only time will tell what Ivy’s attitude and development in the story will be.

 

[Stowhive]

There is just ONE Path for me, Bro : Ian x Lena (and Lola...her Cat)...without any kind of distractions....and with as much love as possible.

That means : Ian gives a shit about other girls....Lena doesn t care about other men (not at all).

Lenas Character traits : more into Music than into modeling; very loyal; very sexual..only around Ian; thoughtful; caring (Mom and Dad); Ian is her Bae; NO onlyfaps, no spicy modeling Pics, no Seymore, no Hotel work, no Drugs, no smoking, Lenas best friends are Holly and Emma (NO lesbian); normal dressed..and not looking like a cheap hooker; doesn t like clubbing; not a posh Girl;

There are only pretty normal friendships (like irl) with : Perry, Emma, Molly, Allison, Wade, Holly (these people are nice and normal)

Lowest Friendship Points for : Jeremy, Cindy, Ivy, Stan, Louise, Jessica, Ed

NON-existent and therefore disposable Character : Axel, Seymor, Minerva, Cherry, Robert, Mike, Billy

Well..thats pretty much my Gamepath....I didn t care about other paths and i don t want to see them. I like the chemistry between Ian and Lena too much. EK did a really good. If you play it like this way...it feels (almost) like a regular rel. with the ups and downs of live. I like that.

All the other wankers are getting an advice from Ian (if they want to hit on Lena) :

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NGL W Relationship

 

[ffive]

Well thanks for clarifying and yeah I agree in the West or in America more specifically her experience is probably pretty common. But then I'd like to ask, what would you consider truly freaky sex-wise from your perspective?

Hmm that's a tough question. I don't really want to call it "freaky" because that carries negative connotation as if it's something inherently bad, but i think swinging/sharing etc goes past the contemporary basic experience, in the sense the norm is still "a monogamous relationship with your partner". I also don't think "experimenting together" the way Ian/Lena can choose to is quite crossing that line, more like, skirting it because it still involves them both. But once they make it fully open (or a theoretical scenario where Lena moves past just teasing cuck Ian with ideas of fucking other guys) i think that'd be moving things into uncommon territory.

 

[JM24]

Hmm that's a tough question. I don't really want to call it "freaky" because that carries negative connotation as if it's something inherently bad, but i think swinging/sharing etc goes past the contemporary basic experience, in the sense the norm is still "a monogamous relationship with your partner". I also don't think "experimenting together" the way Ian/Lena can choose to is quite crossing that line, more like, skirting it because it still involves them both. But once they make it fully open (or a theoretical scenario where Lena moves past just teasing cuck Ian with ideas of fucking other guys) i think that'd be moving things into uncommon territory.

I just edited my comment but not sure if you can see it so imma say it again. After rethinking it I still don't think it's true that every Western girl will have experienced all the things Lena did with Axel. That includes taking photos during sex, trying anal with him and having a threesome. But you may say no that's very common and I won't argue further. But yes I agree that perhaps "freaky" is not a positive word to describe sex. Anyways, I think we should move along from this discussion as it's been dragging on for too long. But still thanks for your patience and honest answers.

 

[Blurpee69]

I think that's a bit of a superficial analysis of Ivy, you base too much of your impression of her on how she presents herself without considering her behaviour fully.

I think she does suffer from self-confidence issues like Louise, the way she expresses it is just different. We see her constantly promoting her lifestyle and trying to get Lena interested in aligning to a similar mindset, when Lena starts befriending Holly this effort is extended to Holly too if they encounter each other enough.

Ivy pretends to be disinterested in the Lena/Axel drama but she is the only one in Lena's ear who promotes a conciliatory approach to him and there are obvious questions to be asked about where her interests lie when we see that she's cordial with him herself and has an interest in keeping him as a professional contact, at least up until Cindy gets the Wildcats contract.

I don't know if this will all lead to open conflict, but I don't think it's entirely unlikely that Ivy might become more desperate if Lena steals all the thunder with Billy. We've seen her act possessive of him before when she stops Lena from flirting with Billy at her party.

Ivy is just Jess from GGGB at this point, and while I like Jess as a character, it's a bit disappointing we're hitting a lot of the same beats. I miss the slut with the heart of gold. Now we just have a corrupting influence to be upstaged by the one she corrupted. I guess the twist this time is Ivy is corrupting two people and will be upstaged by both.

I also miss the agency of Lena being a co-corruptor of Holly, but that role has been dominated by Ivy now for the last several chapters.

 

[JoJoPool]

Am I the only one here who doesn’t have a favorite route to stick to and instead focus on trying different scenarios and unlocking everything with multiple playthroughs?! It just feels the right way to me to play this type of game in order to experience everything it has to offer

 

[BlandChili]

Am I the only one here who doesn’t have a favorite route to stick to and instead focus on trying different scenarios and unlocking everything with multiple playthroughs?! It just feels the right way to me to play this type of game in order to experience everything it has to offer

Of course you aren't. Many people play to complete the gallery manually too.

I have no interest in experiencing and playing for content I'm not naturally interested in personally.

 

[fatpussy123]

Am I the only one here who doesn’t have a favorite route to stick to and instead focus on trying different scenarios and unlocking everything with multiple playthroughs?! It just feels the right way to me to play this type of game in order to experience everything it has to offer

I have so many routes, but still have favourites and least favorites.

 

[varpep]

Am I the only one here who doesn’t have a favorite route to stick to and instead focus on trying different scenarios and unlocking everything with multiple playthroughs?! It just feels the right way to me to play this type of game in order to experience everything it has to offer

I wouldn't say I play every route but I like to play different routes and experiment with different variables.

For example, my favorite route is IanxLena. I have my canon playthrough where Ian has maxed out charsima and chad levels and levels, Lena has max charisma and posh levels and she's working with Seymour and they are in a happy relationship with occasional swinging. Another playthrough when Ian and Lena have max lust levels and have slept with almost everyone but get into a relationship late and Lena is doing lewd content on stalkfalp. One when both are in an open relationship. One when they are cheating on each other. And one where Ian has low chad levels but high wits and Lena has high wits and low posh levels and is posting artistic nudes on stalkfalp.

I have several playthroughs of other paths with different variables too like the throuple path.

 

[JoJoPool]

I have so many routes, but still have favourites and least favorites.

Sure I enjoy playing some routes more than others but there isn’t one that made me want to commit to it. I would say that pure romantic Lena x Wade would be most appealing to me but unfortunately it’s not possible…Yet.

 

[JoJoPool]

Wait I just figured it out! I think I know what my favorite route would be :
Ian and Lena get into a relationship because at first they liked each other then Ian and Cindy start developing feelings for one another so he breaks up with Lena and commits to Cindy, Now both Wade and Lena are heartbroken however in their shared sadness they start to form a connection and then BOOM! Double betrayal, double drama, double the fun.
Fuck YEAH! Please make it happen Eva.
Time for me to light up a cigarette and listen to that song “we found love in a hopeless place”
Oh yeah what a lovely day

 

[mnemosynememory]

Trying the latest on Ian's, and I can't help but to think that Emma pegging him should be canon? Ian and sub seems like close words on the dictionary

 

[qbzdp]

thk very much,like this author Games.It stay with me throught my a part of young life.

 

[calculateplus00]

 

[JM24]

Trying the latest on Ian's, and I can't help but to think that Emma pegging him should be canon? Ian and sub seems like close words on the dictionary

Emma pegs Perry. Lena and Ivy spitroast Ian. Imagine how sexy that would be.