VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

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Hungover00 said:
Even if you call Jeremy out for being a snake, and try and sabotage his chances with Ivy, the game still mostly treats him as buddy buddy. Though I don't know how bad it gets if a in love Ian has Lena cheat on him with Jeremy.
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Yup, this has always been a frustration of mine in the writing, and my biggest annoyance with jeremy as a character. It's not JUST that I don't like him, it's the game actively forcing his proximity to ian regardless of choices. Why even bother having a relationship score between the two of them if certain dialogue responses to jeremy affect other characters' relationship variables?
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I agree; in particular, Ian should have option to scout and sample candidates for the MMF. :whistle::coffee:
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Yeah excited to see where this goes, though it's damped by knowing ek's tendencies and love for social/sexual power asymmetries.
ffive said:
Pretty sure Lena is hardcoded to have strong, negative reaction to people fighting. I don't know if it's some subtle hint dropping about her possible past experiences or just character trait, but she shows it consistently every time she's witness to dudes acting like brainless apes. Heck, she can break up with Ian over it, regardless of her previous experiences with Axel.
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I'd say nearly all the female characters in game have a fairly realistic reaction to fighting for better or for worse- that's not complimentary. They don't like to see it, and get upset over violence, but at the same time don't aggressively try and prevent it. (Does anyone have any idea how quickly most bar fights would vanish if the oft-found love triangle focus firmly said "If either of you lays a finger on each other I'm not going home with anyone :rolleyes:)
 
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(Does anyone have any idea how quickly most bar fights would vanish if the oft-found love triangle focus firmly said "If either of you lays a finger on each other I'm not going home with anyone :rolleyes:)
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Probably not that many since presumably in any given scenario one of the two is the one she's currently with, so the challenger might view her getting with neither as a win, since he'd be denying the competition their prize.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny said:
Yup, this has always been a frustration of mine in the writing, and my biggest annoyance with jeremy as a character. It's not JUST that I don't like him, it's the game actively forcing his proximity to ian regardless of choices. Why even bother having a relationship score between the two of them if certain dialogue responses to jeremy affect other characters' relationship variables?
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I feel like this complaint doesn't really match the latest update -- if Ian was pissed at Jeremy over the news of Lena cheating on him, their relations in this episode can be downright hostile, to the point they start a fight (that a trainer break up, the spoilsport)

(Does anyone have any idea how quickly most bar fights would vanish if the oft-found love triangle focus firmly said "If either of you lays a finger on each other I'm not going home with anyone :rolleyes:)
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Realistically, not that many. At some point guys are far more interested in dick measuring than paying attention to what a woman is telling them. Especially the guys who are "manly men" that would come to blows in such situation in the first place.
 
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BlandChili said:
Probably not that many since presumably in any given scenario one of the two is the one she's currently with, so the "offended" party might view her getting with neither as a win, since he'd be denying the competition their prize.
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I think you underestimate how much sexual aggression fuels these kinds of skirmishes - in that line though I meant someone trying to start a fight would be disqualifying themself for the night; it wouldnt remove the 'victim' male, whether that be her boyfriend or the interloper.
ffive said:
Realistically, not that many. At some point guys are far more interested in dick measuring than paying attention to what a woman is telling them. Especially the guys who are "manly men" that would come to blows in such situation in the first place.
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I dunno man....I've been witness to that situation a lot, and while there's definitely a lot of machismo, the typical objections from the woman aren't 'nuclear', that is, they dont actively threaten that macho posturing. You don't hurt a bully by calling them an asshole, you hurt them by threatening their power. Anyway just a theory of mine, it's more offtopic; like I said I think this game realistically depicts female reactions to public conflict.
ffive said:
I feel like this complaint doesn't really match the latest update -- if Ian was pissed at Jeremy over the news of Lena cheating on him, their relations in this episode can be downright hostile, to the point they start a fight (that a trainer break up, the spoilsport)
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True, and it gets better the later the game goes - my critique is mainly directed at the early (ch1-ch5) interactions where conversations with jeremy set important variables for lena and alison.
 
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Nah, you can't unlocked a WIP scene, because PilotLara hasn't added it to the Gallery yet. Keep in mind the Gallery is NOT made by EK. EK only adds it in as PilotLara makes the scenes available independantly. There is a chance that it will be available in the Beta or Final versions of this chapter.
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Yes I know this situatuon, but I meant in the game, the other WIP scene (Emma needs her fix in restroom)cam be reached.
 
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i still don't like this game, too many paths, i can replay 100 times and never get on the path with the best content. no in game walkthrough mod released by the dev. last time i mentioned this people said there are walkthroughs? but they are pdfs. there are cheats, there is gallery unlockers, a multi mod, but no walkthrough in game which shows on the choice, what the effect of each choice is, and highlights when you branch into paths. therefore this game is unplayable unless you have time to decipher a PDF, which are always a pain in the ass to decipher. the multimod didn't have the route option in the past? but is that even clear enough to put the player on the route with holly doing a glory hole for example? since you need a bunch of pre conditions for a lot of things. I don't know. It just shows somebody's face and says someone gets happy if you select something. That's not the type of guidance I need. lol
 
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Sharpx23 said:
i still don't like this game, too many paths, i can replay 100 times and never get on the path with the best content. no in game walkthrough mod released by the dev. last time i mentioned this people said there are walkthroughs? but they are pdfs. there are cheats, there is gallery unlockers, a multi mod, but no walkthrough in game which shows on the choice, what the effect of each choice is, and highlights when you branch into paths. therefore this game is unplayable unless you have time to decipher a PDF, which are always a pain in the ass to decipher. the multimod didn't have the route option in the past? but is that even clear enough to put the player on the route with holly doing a glory hole for example? since you need a bunch of pre conditions for a lot of things. I don't know. It just shows somebody's face and says someone gets happy if you select something. That's not the type of guidance I need. lol
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jdmod,urm,universal choice descriptor u there is a lot of mod
 
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ffive said:
subtle hint dropping about her possible past experiences or just character trait, but she shows it consistently every time she's witness to dudes acting like brainless apes. Heck, she can break up with Ian over it, regardless of her previous experiences with Axel.
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Which is hilarious considering she can straight punch the landwhale at the club.

I know it's apparently hardcoded into the game, and that's fine that it's a strong character trait of hers. It's not a big deal at the end of the day, and I do genuinely think it's good to take certain options out of the players hands to make strong character statements. But it could have just as equally been a great chance of developing that "Queen Bitch" type attitude for her to pair with Ian's giga-chad attitude at starting the fight.

I guess what I'm getting at is I'd like there to be some sort of equivalence to Ian's Chad variable, and I think that fight at the museum would have been a decent springboard for that personality type to develop. Like the "posh" variable just doesn't feel like a good equivalent to Ian's "chad" variable. Posh really seems tied to pretty much Seymour and the chad variable can be earned outside of just sleeping around so making Lena a slut doesn't really equate to chad either. We've seen some catty / bitchy Lena behavior throughout the game, but it usually seems tied to her lust score for whatever reason instead of getting a seperate "hidden" variable like Chad, Posh, Cuck, etc.
 
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Sharpx23 said:
i still don't like this game, too many paths, i can replay 100 times and never get on the path with the best content. no in game walkthrough mod released by the dev. last time i mentioned this people said there are walkthroughs? but they are pdfs. there are cheats, there is gallery unlockers, a multi mod, but no walkthrough in game which shows on the choice, what the effect of each choice is, and highlights when you branch into paths. therefore this game is unplayable unless you have time to decipher a PDF, which are always a pain in the ass to decipher. the multimod didn't have the route option in the past? but is that even clear enough to put the player on the route with holly doing a glory hole for example? since you need a bunch of pre conditions for a lot of things. I don't know. It just shows somebody's face and says someone gets happy if you select something. That's not the type of guidance I need. lol
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You could play with the universal choice descriptor mod. You can download it on this website. It describes the in-game pathing for you.
 
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BlandChili said:
Probably not that many since presumably in any given scenario one of the two is the one she's currently with, so the challenger might view her getting with neither as a win, since he'd be denying the competition their prize.
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And at least one if not both parties would be drunk.
 
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Blurpee69 said:
Posh really seems tied to pretty much Seymour and the chad variable can be earned outside of just sleeping around so making Lena a slut doesn't really equate to chad either.
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Posh is in general Lena getting snotty and (faux-)sophisticated, vs down-to-earth Emma-like. While Seymour is the easiest way for Lena to increase this variable because he provides her with financial advantages she can indulge in and appreciate, she can also get posh through other means, simply by expressing such preferences.

In this sense it is not unlike chad variable, which is affected by attitude Ian takes when interacting with people. He doesn't really gain it just from having sex per se, no matter how much he sleeps around.
 
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