VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

[Deleted member 3064965]

Yeah, I don't think we share the same taste in literature.

As to Ian, yes writing is a hard field to get into. You have to do the grunt work necessary to get yourself to a place where you can get noticed. But why does the character have to be a useless leach who sits around feeling sorry for himself? Compare him to Lena. She's struggling too. When she couldn't afford the cost she dropped out of college no matter how hard it was to abandon her dreams. She works two jobs and all the modeling gigs she can get. And she sends money home to her parents.

The contrast between the characters couldn't be more stark.

Lena’s parents are sick and don’t make enough money to get by themselves, and definitely not enough to send her money. So she dropped out of college to earn money to survive herself and help them out. Ian’s parents don’t have similar problems, and from what he told in the latest chapter, it sounds like his father is pretty well off and having a successfull career (surprise appearance as an acquaintance of Seymour in the future, maybe?) so there’s no reason for Ian to do the same. It’s not really comparable, and we don’t know whether Ian would have done the same in that situation. Lena also has a good relationship to her stepfather, who is the one who originally needed help, so that’s a part of the equation too. And while Ian can ask for more money from his dad, Lena can also stop sending money to her parents, so that choice is pretty symmetrical within their different context.

It’s also true that Lena’s got two jobs, while Ian’s only got one, but his job is likely to be more hours. And with Ian having the book writing and the MMA as side projects, and Lena having the modelling and the music career, I don’t agree that Ian’s life is particularly more relaxing. So I still don’t see what would make Ian a "useless leach".

And the complaining? I don’t see that big a difference between them there either. They handle it a bit differently, that’s true, but compared to other characters like Alison, Wade, Cindy and Louise, I don’t think Ian stands out in any way.

 

[CoalPhelps]

I'm starting to think that these comments are written by Ian's father. They give off this 'efficent' vibe.

 

[Homemade]

Lena’s parents are sick and don’t make enough money to get by themselves, and definitely not enough to send her money. So she dropped out of college to earn money to survive herself and help them out. Ian’s parents don’t have similar problems, and from what he told in the latest chapter, it sounds like his father is pretty well off and having a successfull career (surprise appearance as an acquaintance of Seymour in the future, maybe?) so there’s no reason for Ian to do the same. It’s not really comparable, and we don’t know whether Ian would have done the same in that situation. Lena also has a good relationship to her stepfather, who is the one who originally needed help, so that’s a part of the equation too. And while Ian can ask for more money from his dad, Lena can also stop sending money to her parents, so that choice is pretty symmetrical within their different context.

It’s also true that Lena’s got two jobs, while Ian’s only got one, but his job is likely to be more hours. And with Ian having the book writing and the MMA as side projects, and Lena having the modelling and the music career, I don’t agree that Ian’s life is particularly more relaxing. So I still don’t see what would make Ian a "useless leach".

And the complaining? I don’t see that big a difference between them there either. They handle it a bit differently, that’s true, but compared to other characters like Alison, Wade, Cindy and Louise, I don’t think Ian stands out in any way.

Bro. my reaction has reached timelimit for today. But for what you have written in your post take this

 

[CoalPhelps]

Lena’s parents are sick and don’t make enough money to get by themselves, and definitely not enough to send her money. So she dropped out of college to earn money to survive herself and help them out. Ian’s parents don’t have similar problems, and from what he told in the latest chapter, it sounds like his father is pretty well off and having a successfull career (surprise appearance as an acquaintance of Seymour in the future, maybe?) so there’s no reason for Ian to do the same. It’s not really comparable, and we don’t know whether Ian would have done the same in that situation. Lena also has a good relationship to her stepfather, who is the one who originally needed help, so that’s a part of the equation too. And while Ian can ask for more money from his dad, Lena can also stop sending money to her parents, so that choice is pretty symmetrical within their different context.

It’s also true that Lena’s got two jobs, while Ian’s only got one, but his job is likely to be more hours. And with Ian having the book writing and the MMA as side projects, and Lena having the modelling and the music career, I don’t agree that Ian’s life is particularly more relaxing. So I still don’t see what would make Ian a "useless leach".

And the complaining? I don’t see that big a difference between them there either. They handle it a bit differently, that’s true, but compared to other characters like Alison, Wade, Cindy and Louise, I don’t think Ian stands out in any way.

Excellent analysis. As far as I remember, one guy got into the Eva team thanks to such detailed comments.

 

[lordrango]

And my point is that he is not. I lived in Europe in my late twenties, my friends and I would have laughed at someone like Ian. I was born in one of the most economically depressed parts of the US and someone like Ian here would be as much despised.

If Ian is an average guy in Europe today, then that is pathetic.

And I've lived in the US in my late twenties. And I was born in one of the most economically depressed parts of Europe. That doesn't really mean a thing and it doesn't make your arguments any more convincing.

You personally dislike Ian as a character, because you dislike those traits in real life. That's perfectly fine, it's your choice. To say he is a loser, though, is objectively wrong, most of all because that's up to the player in the game.

He's not in the best of places at game start, and neither is Lena, but they're both quite young and in a position to make strides. It is your choice as player which path he takes. You can make him a loser, just like you can make Lena slut/whore who doesn't care for anyone (including her parents) but herself.

 

[JohnnySolo]

And my point is that he is not. I lived in Europe in my late twenties, my friends and I would have laughed at someone like Ian. I was born in one of the most economically depressed parts of the US and someone like Ian here would be as much despised.

If Ian is an average guy in Europe today, then that is pathetic.

I don’t know where you have lived in Europe and how old you are. I’m from Europe and I live in Europe. I can assure that there are a lot of people like Ian, how are still searching and insure what they want to achieve in there live even if they are in their late twenties. This doesn’t make them losers.

At least Ian tries to follow his passion. I prefer people with passion, even if they fall sometime or are struggling to reach their goals, to people which are dead inside and only work their job because of the money that they get.

 

[CoalPhelps]

I don’t know where you have lived in Europe and how old you are. I’m from Europe and I live in Europe. I can assure that there are a lot of people like Ian, how are still searching and insure what they want to achieve in there live even if they are in their late twenties. This doesn’t make them losers.

At least Ian tries to follow his passion. I prefer people with passion, even if they fall sometime or are struggling to reach their goals, to people which are dead inside and only work their job because of the money that they get.

Exactly, and I'm talking about the same. What is the point in constant work if the only thing you do besides work is beer with friends. While striving for a dream and facing obstacles, you grow as a person and as a creator.

 

[juniorforlife17313]

Yeah also Ian needs to fucks his own mother, his sister, and his mother's and sister's hot friend, and his hot high school teacher too. And obviously he needs to have that 3D Bazooka Dick™ and the game should be renamed to something like Our Milfy G-String: Alpha Male of The House Saga. Because you know, otherwise how can it be a harem game with a unique story and gameplay?

Great minds think alike brother. Hoorah, let's make evakiss change the title to that this week by via a petition we all sign. Incest for all, we at f95 demand it woman, or man of mysterious origin...

 

[PlummetCat]

Anyone knows who is the model for Ashley in GGGB?

Peta Jensen, particularly true after the boob job

 

[keyoffate]

How far along/complete is this game? Is it worth playing in its current state?

 

[doctor13]

Peta Jensen, particularly true after the boob job

Any conformation of this because I really can't see it : /

 

[Nice Guy Eddie]

Peta Jensen, particularly true after the boob job

Really? Damn..I find Ash much more attractive lol!

 

[Solomon Grundy]

How far along/complete is this game? Is it worth playing in its current state?

It's not complete, but there is quite a lot of content and story here already. I would certainly say that it's worth playing, but it's absolutely a work in progress at this point.

 

[DavDR]

it sounds like his father is pretty well off and having a successfull career

And that makes it ok to take his money?

 

[Overfoxed]

How far along/complete is this game? Is it worth playing in its current state?

Plenty of content to enjoy so far - but there's still lots of story to go.

This is a much more linear game than others - not in the sense of lack of choice; there's lots of that, but in the sense that after each update you get to a very clear stopping point. So you don't have to worry about getting lost spamming/grinding your way through an overworld, clicking on different locations, etc and unsure if you're reached all the content for the latest update.

Also makes it a lot easier to pick up and continue when a new chapter comes out.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

That's pretty neat - I like to think you didn't have to consider any of these, you just have an instant encyclopedic knowledge of all adult models in the world.

Jeremy's penis in shot 1 is Derek Bojangles. When Lena sneaks into Louise's room for encounter #2, the rod she spots is none-other than Jebediah Longstroke's. In most of the Alison shots, the layman would think it's Dick Bastardly's shlong, but not so fast. The rightward hook when it wobbles is unmistakably Bartholomew Goodnutt's. Most of the active Lena scenes with it are an amalgamation though, so I'll have to post a chart later for clarity. A lot of JC Stretch, Phinnaues Wellblacked and Mr Skeetsswell throughout the imagery.

 

[Overfoxed]

Jeremy's penis in shot 1 is Derek Bojangles. When Lena sneaks into Louise's room for encounter #2, the rod she spots is none-other than Jebediah Longstroke's. In most of the Alison shots, the layman would think it's Dick Bastardly's shlong, but not so fast. The rightward hook when it wobbles is unmistakably Bartholomew Goodnutt's. Most of the active Lena scenes with it are an amalgamation though, so I'll have to post a chart later for clarity. A lot of JC Stretch, Phinnaues Wellblacked and Mr Skeetsswell throughout the imagery.

 

[juniorforlife17313]

I do find most of the characters interesting with layers to there personalities. Hurt, betrayal, aspects of wanting to be free ie Cindy from Wade, desires to be get societal recognition. Or cheating which can make which can make for some interesting situations. Compared to other games I think it does outshine others. But still feel like the game could be better. Like a catfight scene between Cindy and Lena given their bitchiness towards each other to counteract the Robert and Ian fight if the player is actively cheating on their LI. Or giving Lena more fuel to counteract with the predicaments she sometimes finds herself in. Or Ian
standing up for himself more against Axel. Also much more replayability and quality there without wasting the players time like other ass games which is a plus. Reason why I think being a negative Nancy for no reason is counter productive and is mcdouchey in general.

 

[ename144]

Yeah, I don't think we share the same taste in literature.

As to Ian, yes writing is a hard field to get into. You have to do the grunt work necessary to get yourself to a place where you can get noticed. But why does the character have to be a useless leach who sits around feeling sorry for himself? Compare him to Lena. She's struggling too. When she couldn't afford the cost she dropped out of college no matter how hard it was to abandon her dreams. She works two jobs and all the modeling gigs she can get. And she sends money home to her parents.

The contrast between the characters couldn't be more stark.

It seems like you're complaining because Ian is putting in the grunt work. He's working at a lousy job to get his foot in the door while he writes his novel on the side. He even has the option to work a second job if his hours are reduced. Ian's arguably ahead of Lena because he actually has long term goal he's working towards, whereas she is just grabbing whatever job is available with no particular plan for the future.

Now it's certainly true that Ian is taking money from his parents while Lena is supporting hers, but that's just because her parents have no money of their own; it's not like Lena was paying her own way through college before her dad's medical bills exploded. Lena might well rely on her parents too, if that were an option.

If your complaint is just that you don't like Ian's personality or dialog, fair enough. But I don't think having an entry level job or taking money from his parents are the root problem here.

 

[madman11122]

I'm looking forward to the next chapter. I'm a huge fan of Emma content and surprisingly I'm enjoying the Cindy path. I'm really looking forward to a progression in the LinaXHolly area. I finally played the Allison path and she is my least favorite--I would love to hear from people who think she is the best girl. Anyways, I really enjoy Eva's work, her games are top notch.