VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

[monk_56]

A romance route between Lena/Stan could be done very well. A play on the classic "beauty and the beast" relationship, where an attractive woman falls for a less-so attractive guy because he treats her well and is a nice person.

However, I highly doubt it'll be done. Seems that Stan will play the role of the harmless creeper, at least based on the previous versions.

If this game has any flaws, and this is pre-rewrite, it's that too many LI's have similar roles. Especially Lena. Most of her male LI's are photographers. And she doesn't seem to have a male romantic option, besides Ian. Unless I can't remember.

I suspect that is partially a design decision. If there were an attractive, interesting, and non-asshole male romance option for Lena her picking Ian wouldn't make any sense.

Since there isn't; Ian is her most compelling male romance option. Despite being an underdog in terms of size and attractiveness he can legitimately give her healthy romance, conversation, validation, and stability. You take away those advantages and he gets snubbed like he more realistically would in the real world.

Same deal with Stan- you really have to suspend disbelief to think someone like Lena would go for Stan in the real world unless they did it for economic stability- it happens; but it is the exception to the norm.

 

[Journey95]

I suspect that is partially a design decisions. If there were an attractive, interesting, and non-asshole male romance option for Lena her picking Ian wouldn't make any sense.

Since there isn't; Ian is her most compelling male romance option. Despite being an underdog in terms of size and attractiveness he can legitimately give her healthy romance, conversation, validation, and stability. You take away those advantages and he gets snubbed like he more realistically would in the real world.

Same deal with Stan- you really have to suspend disbelief to think someone like Lena would go for Stan in the real world unless they did it for economic stability- it happens; but it is the exception to the norm.

That's a common problem with female MC games here..somehow really attractive women fall constantly for ugly/fat/old dudes. It seems to be some fetish for people but for me its immersion breaking. This game at least has more variety so I don't mind stan

 

[JohnnyKiss]

For some reason ppl get extremely worked up over comments about Stan that isnt overwhelming praise. You dont see this happening to any other character, from my experience at least.

It's extremely hilarious and awkward how hard the alleged "6ft4, okay-looking dude" got worked up over a simple fact. Porn is all about catering to your preference and Stan is just one of those preferences.

 

[Ragnar]

I don't mind either way but Stan is harmless compared wirth most dudes in the game. We have to see how revamped Stan changes but OG Stan was cuck material for Lena to exploit.
Axel is the apex predator, the pussy slayer.
Jeremy is black Axel but dumber, the Blacked trope.
Ian is a manlet.
Robert is a piece of shit plus manlet.
Seymour is a twisted rich fuck.
Cindy's bf is a lazy fuck, cucking him is the best.
Perry is a manchild, another victim for the cuckening.
DJ whatshisface is the diversity quota.

 

[dolfe67]

I certainly don't agree that Ian is small, average at worst imo.

He's average IRL, but is one of the smallest males in game

 

[JohnnyKiss]

I don't mind either way but Stan is harmless compared wirth most dudes in the game. We have to see how revamped Stan changes but OG Stan was cuck material for Lena to exploit.
Axel is the apex predator, the pussy slayer.
Jeremy is black Axel but dumber, the Blacked trope.
Ian is a manlet.
Robert is a piece of shit plus manlet.
Seymour is a twisted rich fuck.
Cindy's bf is a lazy fuck, cucking him is the best.
Ian's fat friend is a manchild, another victim for the cuckening.
DJ whatisface is the diversity quota.

Pretty sure Ian is supposed to be the most average man possible. He is made to cover the broadest audience, or at least the majority of the player-base. He is white, straight, brown/black hair, average male height (5' 9" if I remember), average build and most basic features.

Perry is the manlet.

 

[naniwtf]

oh man, everytime my ~174 ass come to this thread and read about how small ian is, my self esteem lowers just a little bit.

 

[Ragnar]

Pretty sure Ian is supposed to be the most average man possible. He is made to cover the broadest audience, or at least the majority of the player-base. He is white, straight, brown/black hair, average male height (5' 9" if I remember), average build and most basic features.

Perry is the manlet.

Maybe that's what makes him not appealing for some players. I mean he's half blank slate character half player's choices but even if you go Cindy route he's kind of vanilla? I don't know how to describe it exactly, Average Joe.
I know Perry is smaller but Axl, Jeremy, and many others look bigger than Ian. Ian is again the average dude or worse. He isn't anything special even dick wise so why are all these hot instathots losing their panties for him?

 

[Frenchtopus]

It's extremely hilarious and awkward how hard the alleged "6ft4, okay-looking dude" got worked up over a simple fact. Porn is all about catering to your preference and Stan is just one of those preferences.

Do I really have to send you a photo in messages to prove I'm really like that ?
And I see you didn't read me then, like I expected. The "fact" is in your head dude, that's the ONLY reason I described myself. But I'm sorry you must be omniscient and omnipotent to know what EVERY fans of Stan look like.

And I got worked up because of dicks like you who's only preocupation seems to say shitty things about people who don't have the same taste as you. I didn't get worked up because you hurted me or whatever, you do not have that type of power dude, like I said I'm very okay with my life.
I JUST wanted a little more cordiality in this thread but it's impossible since you're still here less than a day after already mocking me based on some idea you had.

Fuck I hate internet sometimes

 

[mommysboiii]

For some reason ppl get extremely worked up over comments about Stan that isnt overwhelming praise. You dont see this happening to any other character, from my experience at least.

because we see ourselfs in stan the MAN absoulute god physics, 20 cm big DICK, gets every pussy if he wants (ofc he is just lazy but he could get any if he wants) can fuck for 2 hours straight like no problem (i guess he visites a lot of alpha con and read alot of sigma grindset autor books/business coaches) he is a absolute CHAD.

 

[mommysboiii]

Some more fan art...

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damm that cindy one looks good I hope my Ian gets cucked hadcore on both of my saves with queen cindy and queen holly both have a very good potential for a path like that.

 

[What'sNew]

We all know Cindy x Axel is pretty much guaranteed but I wonder if she will ever get together with Jeremy . Maybe Ian can put in a good word for my boi Jeremy like he did with Emma.

 

[mommysboiii]

I just hope that after a romantic time with cindy and ian her greed after sucess and fame and maybe the weird competition between her and lena is so much that everybody steals our queen cindy left and rightI mean ian kinda deserves it for betrey his friend anyway

 

[reyir]

Yep, After this game is done goodbye forever to the dual protagonists, I'm sure that Eva Kiss is glad to have explored different ideas but I doubt that she wants to bring back dual protagonists after seeing all the effort that this game is demanding of her. Personally I'm glad, considering the time that Eva spends to develop I would not recommend her to make more games with multiple protagonists

Dual protagonist game is good for every other dev except Eva... dont get me wrong, Eva really bring the branching story system to whole new level, you can play GGGB many times and still cant unlock some of its scene, thats enough to prove how complex the branching story system that Eva makes for her game... and dual protagonist game doesnt really work well with the developer like Eva

You cant find any other game that has more compex branching story system than her games... and with dual protagonist, i think she finally find her limit, the way she struggled with every updates shows how difficult to makes dual protagonist game with her standard of branching story system complexity... Its not that ORS has bad written story in it, it just she needs a lot more time to write ORS story than what she needs to write the GGGB story and the options that she has when it comes to makes the next chapter story became more and more less, because she needs to makes story that highlight the two protagonist at the same time...

I really hope that in the next game, she only choose one protagonist game, because its not worth it to burn out herself every months just to finish the games when she should be happy and relax when develop her games

 

[reyir]

No, they just want to see someone looking like them fuck the hot chick. Also, how is Lena fucking Stan "corruption"? He is the most harmless person in the entire game.

Umm, you know, you cant really seperated ugly bastard or creppy guy with female protagonist corruption games, you can find any female protagonist game that had corruption tag in it and there must be at least one character that represent ugly bastard or creppy guy, even GGGB has that ugly bastard or creppy guy character in them, so its kinda the rules you need to follow for female protagonist game that has corruption tag in it

 

[JohnnyKiss]

Maybe that's what makes him not appealing for some players. I mean he's half blank slate character half player's choices but even if you go Cindy route he's kind of vanilla? I don't know how to describe it exactly, Average Joe.
I know Perry is smaller but Axl, Jeremy, and many others look bigger than Ian. Ian is again the average dude or worse. He isn't anything special even dick wise so why are all these hot instathots losing their panties for him?

Because most people are like Ian and not Axl and Jeremy

 

[goodguy80]

DP scenes in next update or we riot!

 

[mommysboiii]

axel and jeremy are superior

 

[por12]

wow the game is dead,6 months and nothing
good girl gone bad got updates every month
alas the dev is swmming in money too easy

 

[jimul18]

wow the game is dead,6 months and nothing
good girl gone bad got updates every month
alas the dev is swmming in money too easy

While this is a most likely a troll attempt and parts of it are plain wrong (swimming in money if EK suspended payments), I understand the sentiment that long periods between episodes are problematic. Instead of pointing out problems how about brainstorming solutions.

I could get behind a 45 to 60-day update schedule with a focus on one of the two MC's in terms of sexual content; with some nuggets of story for the other. That would simplify a few things, if necessary the romance between the two MC's could be sacrificed for that, instead they would almost compete.