VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[dundun]

Some have speculated that Seymour is Lena's biological father. But that's 100% not gonna fly with Steam.

Well, ..........
Might I point out that, as of now, they didn't have sex? They might very well never have
Age wise it fits, Seymour is 55, Lena's mom is 50.
And there is the big mystery why he is so interested in her. That would be an explanation.

Lena's bio-dad? Magic 8-ball: "Digging for sandwiches and old sardine cans in the trash. On chance occurrence, asked Lena for cash but likely not 100% sure yet she sprung from his gene pool. If he knew for sure, his reaction to seeing her with Seymour would be much more drastic. Old rival of Seymour's and knows he's a POS."

I'd be willing to bet a small sum on this. Eva makes a very good game, but it's anything if not a bit predictable, with the "Red String" theme a Deus Ex Machina mechanic used as a get-out-of-jail-free card for implausible coincidences that make the world seem smaller. I chalk that up far more to time limitations in development than to Eva's writing abilities though.

And the three of them coincidally meet at one street corner? That is not a red string, that is a whole ball of string.
It is clearly not meditated. The bum doesn't recognize Lena so he didn't plan it and Seymour is surprised when he recognizes him, so neither did he.
So it would not explain Seymour's interest in Lena. Admittedly he does fits age wise, being the same age as Seymour.

Also there is Ian's mom, who might have cheated on Ian's dad. Who is in finances. Who might know Seymour....... Now that would a interesting thought to hold

 

[desmosome]

Where is this Seymour Lena daddy theory coming from? It's possible I missed something, but was there anything about Seymour and Lena's mom even knowing each other? If not, I don't see why this would be any more likely than the more straightforward power tripping 1%er taking what he wants.

 

[alexferno]

Maybe, but not with Jeremy. Judging from what's shown in the game, Cindy likes lively, spontaneous, but laid back guys with a creative spark, pursuing their goal and dreams, who will give her a lot of attention and appreciation (even if it's just sex for her). And Jeremy? Maximally simple-minded, doesn't give a fuck about the girls he has hook-ups with at all, and the only spontaneity he's capable of is getting laid after a club or dinner. His only real asset is the BBC and it's not like that's enough for Cindy. This is not a land that Jermany can conquer.

You might be right, but we don't know for sure. For example, look at Holly. She was introduced as a prim and proper girl, but she's starting to loosen up (on some routes). Holly has changed a lot since the beginning of the story, she's not the same shy, innocent and prudish girl anymore. Her style has changed, she goes to nightclubs, buys sex toys, casually French kisses her friends in public, does threesomes and sends naughty photos to Mark (a random fuckboy she just met and has nothing in common with her). Also, her interaction with the bouncer is kinda sus... The player's choices can radically affect the course of the story and Holly is an example of that.
The game is only half-way done. We can speculate all we want, but nothing is set in stone yet. Only Eva knows where the story will go.

 

[dolfe67]

Where is this Seymour Lena daddy theory coming from? It's possible I missed something, but was there anything about Seymour and Lena's mom even knowing each other? If not, I don't see why this would be any more likely than the more straightforward power tripping 1%er taking what he wants.

It's coming from incest enthusiasts. I don't think he's her father. He's interested in her like he could be interested in a painting or whatever

 

[magicuser007]

Our Red String Remastered (Ch9 final version)

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Here's the final version for the Remastered 9 chapters of ORS!

After working so intensively and for such a long time, it's hard for me to get perspective on the finished product, but that's always the case. I still feel so many things could've been improved, and I would've liked to be much more thorough, but this rework has taken far too long as it is. Once again, thank you for your patience.

I know most of you would've preferred for me to skip this rework, or keep it a lot shorter, and move on with the story and Chapter 10. I share that feeling... A rework doesn't bring much new to the table, and it isn't especially fun for me to do, it's been quite a chore, honestly. But there were a few glaring issues I could not ignore, some things I needed to fix before moving forward and so much wasted potential. In the end it took too long, it hurt the game's momentum and I even lost a month of revenue (by choice), but I believe it's all been worth it.

I feel the game is more solid and polished now, closer to what it should and could be. The experience is mostly the same, but it's internal structure has been improved, the mechanics better implemented, the visual presentation enhanced and the soundtrack expanded. I did some subtle tweaks to the pacing, dialogue and character interactions, expanded on scenes and opportunities that offered more potential and that sort of thing. I'm attaching a change log for those who are curious about the stuff that has been added, tweaked or changed.

Some aspects are still a bit rough around the edges, like the Agenda, and I have in mind a few small things I still want to add or improve, but first I want to hear about your feelings and opinions about this new release. Also I want to thank Lara, BloodyMares and TheDarkFable for their help and support with the technical issues, revisions, and improvements to my workflow. The project has gotten so big it would be impossible for me to do it on my own!

I hope you find the remastered ORS even prettier and more charming that it originally was, and hopefully I will give you all that new content you wanted to get in the next Chapter. Work has already started on it!

P.D.: I will re-upload the final version in a few days with some extra tweaks, but they will just be minor visual or technical issues that will not impact the experience.

 

[SteveyP]

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Our Red String Remastered (Ch9 final version)

PC:Mega

ANDROID:Mega

Here's the final version for the Remastered 9 chapters of ORS!

After working so intensively and for such a long time, it's hard for me to get perspective on the finished product, but that's always the case. I still feel so many things could've been improved, and I would've liked to be much more thorough, but this rework has taken far too long as it is. Once again, thank you for your patience.

I know most of you would've preferred for me to skip this rework, or keep it a lot shorter, and move on with the story and Chapter 10. I share that feeling... A rework doesn't bring much new to the table, and it isn't especially fun for me to do, it's been quite a chore, honestly. But there were a few glaring issues I could not ignore, some things I needed to fix before moving forward and so much wasted potential. In the end it took too long, it hurt the game's momentum and I even lost a month of revenue (by choice), but I believe it's all been worth it.

I feel the game is more solid and polished now, closer to what it should and could be. The experience is mostly the same, but it's internal structure has been improved, the mechanics better implemented, the visual presentation enhanced and the soundtrack expanded. I did some subtle tweaks to the pacing, dialogue and character interactions, expanded on scenes and opportunities that offered more potential and that sort of thing. I'm attaching a change log for those who are curious about the stuff that has been added, tweaked or changed.

Some aspects are still a bit rough around the edges, like the Agenda, and I have in mind a few small things I still want to add or improve, but first I want to hear about your feelings and opinions about this new release. Also I want to thank Lara, BloodyMares and TheDarkFable for their help and support with the technical issues, revisions, and improvements to my workflow. The project has gotten so big it would be impossible for me to do it on my own!

I hope you find the remastered ORS even prettier and more charming that it originally was, and hopefully I will give you all that new content you wanted to get in the next Chapter. Work has already started on it!

P.D.: I will re-upload the final version in a few days with some extra tweaks, but they will just be minor visual or technical issues that will not impact the experience.

Thanks for sharing!! Is there a Mac link by any chance?

 

[dundun]

Where is this Seymour Lena daddy theory coming from? It's possible I missed something, but was there anything about Seymour and Lena's mom even knowing each other? If not, I don't see why this would be any more likely than the more straightforward power tripping 1%er taking what he wants.

No, it is solely based on the fact that Lena's dad is not her biological dad.

 

[magicuser007]

Thanks for sharing!! Is there a Mac link by any chance?

There is a Mac link, but it's not working for some reason.

 

[SteveyP]

There is a Mac link, but it's not working for some reason.

Gotcha, thanks for sharing either way! If you come across a working one, do you mind sharing?

 

[magicuser007]

Gotcha, thanks for sharing either way! If you come across a working one, do you mind sharing?

Yeah sure.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Well, ..........
Might I point out that, as of now, they didn't have sex? They might very well never have
Age wise it fits, Seymour is 55, Lena's mom is 50.
And there is the big mystery why he is so interested in her. That would be an explanation.


And the three of them coincidally meet at one street corner? That is not a red string, that is a whole ball of string.
It is clearly not meditated. The bum doesn't recognize Lena so he didn't plan it and Seymour is surprised when he recognizes him, so neither did he.
So it would not explain Seymour's interest in Lena. Admittedly he does fits age wise, being the same age as Seymour.

Also there is Ian's mom, who might have cheated on Ian's dad. Who is in finances. Who might know Seymour....... Now that would a interesting thought to hold

Point #1. Regarding incest content, sure, they haven't had "sex" yet. But I'm fairly certain Seymour demanding a daughter strip nude & insert an orgasm machine into her vag which he controls from the couch till she squirts all over the floor wouldn't pass Steam's prohibited content sniff-test either.

Point #2. I think you misunderstood me. I could have probably been more clear. I don't think the bum as potential-ex-rival/potential-father is Seymour's main motivation. That potential motivation only relies on her mother, if it turns out Seymour was in fact interested in or involved with her. So I wasn't suggesting whatsoever that the street corner meet was planned. If said bum actually does turn out to be her father, which I'm merely speculating on, I find it more likely than not that he doesn't know she's his daughter yet. But the resemblance to her mother would likely be both intriguing and haunting to him, giving him a pause as shown in the scenes he's featured in. I take the bum = dad as more speculative vs a Seymour wounded by Lena's mom. Still, in any story at least somewhat following standard writing conventions, every insert has a purpose. And the language/tone of both bum encounters seemed to hint at something more than a mere opportunity for Lena's character development or Seymour's back-story. That's why the suspicion popped out at me. He'll be a key part of the story later I'm sure, regardless of any potential genetic link.

"Whole ball of string": That is actually my largest gripe with the ORS plotline so far, which pops up over and over again, & why I call the Red String a Deus/Diabolas Ex Machina (which in general is a horrible plot device). There are already far too many convenient meetings that make the world feel small, as if there are only 40 or so people living in the entire city, which the Red String theme too easily explains away.


Given the set-up in Chapters 1-8, I personally thought the best writing for the situation would be a fake-out, where Seymour did not, in fact, find Lena special at all, and simply had a long history of breaking seemingly strong, beautiful young women after elevating them up to feel special and powerful. Likely as a way to get misplaced revenge on a long and dormant wound received by his mother, a lost love interest or a powerful yet un-reciprocated love. Written well, that could have the weight of an anvil to the head. But given the way Chapter 9 has fallen into place, I don't think it's possible to write that plot-twist any longer due to the extreme lengths Seymour has gone to in order to possess Lena. So jilted suitor or ex-lover of Lena's mom is the most likely scenario.

 

[Brazilian Engrish]

Seymour will use Lena against the Mayor. This is the best theory i have read on this thread. The whole thing of the wild cats (is that the correct name?) being a prostitution ring.

 

[desmosome]

Anything new in final version or just bug fixes?

 

[CoalPhelps]

I hope so. I also liked the new interaction at the bar when Axel and the others think Jeremy acts like an idiot. It's far from an redemption arc, but at least it shows that his player persona isn't always working the way he expects it to.

I agree, I like this scene better too. All his macho bravado and balls were broken about his awkward pushy behavior. His problem is that he's a tryhard wannabe player rather than a real Chad. And he's met a natural player who doesn't even have to try for it. And Ian, too, with the right stats, behaves much more authentically and charismatically, fitting in with the company. And I mean, who did Jeremy have ties to? Louise? Pfft, a misguided naive girl who needs someone around. Allison? In this relationship, she's using him, not him using her. Ivy? She's just playing him after the news about Louise. Lena? Again, she's using him as a dildo, not him using her.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Where is this Seymour Lena daddy theory coming from? It's possible I missed something, but was there anything about Seymour and Lena's mom even knowing each other? If not, I don't see why this would be any more likely than the more straightforward power tripping 1%er taking what he wants.

Well, threefold. #1, as Dundun said, we find out in chapter 9 that Lena's dad is not really her dad. But as importantly, #2, due to chap 9 developments, Seymour has gone to implausibly great lengths to possess and control Lena after a few mere chance meetings. For someone that rich and powerful, beautiful women are a dime a dozen, so the speculation is on what other plausible reason he has for doing so. (I don't personally think he's her daddy, though Steam approval partially weighs in on that guess for me). #3. Yep.... people want some incest.

 

[CoalPhelps]

Seymour will use Lena against the Mayor. This is the best theory i have read on this thread. The whole thing of the wild cats (is that the correct name?) being a prostitution ring.

I, too, have these thoughts that Wildcats is actually something much shadier than an elite modeling agency. Probably kind of a brothel for rich daddies or something to do with escorts.

 

[qwertycoltan]

Why can't Ian tell Wade to fight for Cindy in this new version?. Is it because Ian went with her to the club?. in the previous versions Ian could, I don't see why he can't now.

 

[desmosome]

I, too, have these thoughts that Wildcats is actually something much shadier than an elite modeling agency. Probably kind of a brothel for rich daddies or something to do with escorts.

Ehh. I thought we are all in agreement that ORS is fairly grounded in reality. Wildcats could be quite shady under the surface. The modeling industry being predatory is something that is believable. The most well known modeling agency being a front for a literal prostitution ring? Not so much.

 

[CoalPhelps]

Why can't Ian tell Wade to fight for Cindy in this new version?. Is it because Ian went with her to the club?. in the previous versions Ian could, I don't see why he can't now.

Not enough Charisma and/or your Ian is too interested in Cindy. Ignore her pics on Peoplegram and don't say you'd like to see pics of her if you want to go to a bar with her and still give Wade advice.

 

[dundun]

Point #1. Regarding incest content, sure, they haven't had "sex" yet. But I'm fairly certain Seymour demanding a daughter strip nude & insert an orgasm machine into her vag which he controls from the couch till she squirts all over the floor wouldn't pass Steam's prohibited content sniff-test either.

Point #2. I think you misunderstood me. I could have probably been more clear. I don't think the bum as potential-ex-rival/potential-father is Seymour's main motivation. That potential motivation only relies on her mother, if it turns out Seymour was in fact interested in or involved with her. So I wasn't suggesting whatsoever that the street corner meet was planned. If said bum actually does turn out to be her father, which I'm merely speculating on, I find it more likely than not that he doesn't know she's his daughter yet. But the resemblance to her mother would likely be both intriguing and haunting to him, giving him a pause as shown in the scenes he's featured in. I take the bum = dad as more speculative vs a Seymour wounded by Lena's mom. Still, in any story at least somewhat following standard writing conventions, every insert has a purpose. And the language/tone of both bum encounters seemed to hint at something more than a mere opportunity for Lena's character development or Seymour's back-story. That's why the suspicion popped out at me. He'll be a key part of the story later I'm sure, regardless of any potential genetic link.

"Whole ball of string": That is actually my largest gripe with the ORS plotline so far, which pops up over and over again, & why I call the Red String a Deus/Diabolas Ex Machina (which in general is a horrible plot device). There are already far too many convenient meetings that make the world feel small, as if there are only 40 or so people living in the entire city, which the Red String theme too easily explains away.


Given the set-up in Chapters 1-8, I personally thought the best writing for the situation would be a fake-out, where Seymour did not, in fact, find Lena special at all, and simply had a long history of breaking seemingly strong, beautiful young women after elevating them up to feel special and powerful. Likely as a way to get misplaced revenge on a long and dormant wound received by his mother, a lost love interest or a powerful yet un-reciprocated love. Written well, that could have the weight of an anvil to the head. But given the way Chapter 9 has fallen into place, I don't think it's possible to write that plot-twist any longer due to the extreme lengths Seymour has gone to in order to possess Lena. So jilted suitor or ex-lover of Lena's mom is the most likely scenario.

1. I just felt the need to point that out...
2. Ah, I see. If we ignore the desperate need this forum has for anything incest (I am looking at you, Spike! ) then yes, Seymour being remembered of an old, denied love by Lena (possibly her mother) would be a possible explanation for Seymours interest. As for the bum, yes, he obviously has a role in the story. But he could be just connected to Seymour and later serve as an ally bringing him down by knowing where some of his skeletons are buried.

Anything new in final version or just bug fixes?

Ian's wits outfit got redone. The shirt now has a collar and the sleeves stand out. Also Perry now stutters a lot more. Like a lot.