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Auto: "I'm a dominant bitch now. I'm going to ride your face while you jack off, then fall asleep with you unsatisfied + deny you a shower with me the next morning since you're suddenly unimportant to me after two specific choices". It's all a little too sudden and extreme based on that play-through if the route continues like that without additional options.
To be fair, this builds up a little longer than you make it, in the sense it begins with Ian expressing insecurity over Lena showing herself off on her Stalkerfap. And then you have Ian show his insecurity further starting to ask about other guys' cocks.

If the player makes three consecutive choices that tell the game "yes i want to be put on cuck path" then it's a bit unrealistic to want it somehow infer from this "i don't actually want a cuck path, i just want to occasionally pretend this". I don't know of any porn game which actually allow for such flip-flopping kind of approach, it feels like expecting a little too much.

Also, am not sure what you're talking about re: shower. Lena offers Ian shower regardless of path. Afterwards she offers him breakfast, also no matter the path. It's cuck Ian who chooses to leave early. The comment about showering together, it also comes from Ian and, curiously enough, it depends on whether Ian has deleted Gillian's pictures. (and Lena asks for "five more minutes" also no matter what path Ian is on, it's not because she suddenly thinks less of cuck Ian)
 

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Does anyone know the requirements for Ian to have sex with Cindy in ch7? I had the choice to have him kiss her outside after the events in the club but then the only option was "stop it". Lust is at 5, friendship near max. I guess there's something I missed along the way :/
The option to proceed with sex requires either Lust attribute at 6+ or a point of willpower. Need either more of a horndog or more fulfilled Ian :v
 
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To be fair, this builds up a little longer than you make it, in the sense it begins with Ian expressing insecurity over Lena showing herself off on her Stalkerfap. And then you have Ian show his insecurity further starting to ask about other guys' cocks.

If the player makes three consecutive choices that tell the game "yes i want to be put on cuck path" then it's a bit unrealistic to want it somehow infer from this "i don't actually want a cuck path, i just want to occasionally pretend this". I don't know of any porn game which actually allow for such flip-flopping kind of approach, it feels like expecting a little too much.

Also, am not sure what you're talking about re: shower. Lena offers Ian shower regardless of path. Afterwards she offers him breakfast, also no matter the path. It's cuck Ian who chooses to leave early. The comment about showering together, it also comes from Ian and, curiously enough, it depends on whether Ian has deleted Gillian's pictures. (and Lena asks for "five more minutes" also no matter what path Ian is on, it's not because she suddenly thinks less of cuck Ian)
You're exactly who I didn't want to back-and-forth with. :LOL:

1. In my playthrough, it was only two required choices that would validly signal the user towards to that path, both in chapter 10.
Ch 10 I/L sex scene 1: "One of"?
I/L final stalkerfap shoot: Deny.
Lena being on Stalkerfap merely allows for a scene where one of those two selections is made, but is used in plenty of other paths. Moot point regardless though, since I still wanted the path. Was just hoping for it to play out differently. Still, the way it plays out is a pretty extreme jump based on how the rest of the playthrough was played.

2. What I was hoping for was a more realistic/plausible cuck or hotwife path option in general with some teasing, where they still have regular, healthy sex too, as well as a good relationship. A cuck/hotwife/teasting route doesn't have to be all extreme paypig (GGGB) or pure femdom/denial (as this is turning into) in the bedroom 100% of the time. And like with Eric in GGGB, I don't see it being a plausible long-term relationship that way. My suggestion to add the choice based on current assets from other routes was merely suggesting a way an alternate healthier relationship path could be provided with minimal effort that wouldn't feel so extreme/femdom. (Thought I explained that well enough in the previous post, too).

3. Most important: All I'm saying is I'm disappointed by the path. I have no idea why you feel the need to contradict that. Am I allowed to be disappointed? You don't care about the path so my disappointment in it shouldn't really concern you either. "Your disappointment is invalid" is kind of bullshit. Can someone dare not like the way a development turned out? Not everyone's going to get the routes they were looking for, which is fine. But I should be able to express disappointment for it. It's not like I'm demanding "Eva must change this now!!!".

Basically: Stop minimizing other people's concerns.


Shower section: Fair enough.
 
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Shouldn't have teased him :4Head:

I teased him too in my PT, but he auto-fucked Lena despite it all because too dominant I think? At least I got the choice to face-fuck him and deny him of orgasm in the prologue :KEK:
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How did you get that?

When not on the cuck route (your Ian probably didn't say "One of?" in the first Chapter 10 sex scene), the only selection I get with Lena in the Prologue is Ride His Face/Want Your Cock/Put It In. And then Love You/Choke Me/Gonna Cum. AFAIK, they fuck and both cum at the end in each choice.
 
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First of all, I hope the fucking Cindy does not fuck Axel and cheat on Ian cause I would fucking shoot both of them in their asses.

That said, is there any path where I can make Lena a cuckquean? In my save I turned the commitment down because I was too focused on Cindy, but now I am thinking about that.

I imagine it is probably possible to make her have sex with girls only (besides Ian), but what about a legit cuckquean Path?
 

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Just expressing my disappointment that a route I was looking for is likely (keyword likely) not going to happen. Fair enough, it's a long game with a plethora of options and a long development time. Logically, Eva was going to have to steamroll some choices at some point to speed things up. I was hoping she'd give this route a more believable feel & complexity this time than she did in GGGB. Given that assets were already created for a more normal, loving route, it wouldn't be too hard to add a few choice menus to mix the routes up a little more. If this turns out to be such a steamroll, guess I could easily do some simple modding.
Welcome, your route has joined the Cut Content Club alongside Ed route and Lena GF Alison Sidechick route.
 

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1. In my playthrough, it was only two required choices that would validly signal the user towards to that path, both in chapter 10.
OK, but this isn't anything unusual. Generally, all paths are set with 1-2 choices (and when it's one, it's obv. going to happen in one chapter) Activating routes through large number of choices spread over many chapters only results in confusing players how they can actually enter a route and them failing to do so -- just think of all these people asking, "how do i make Ivy show up at a gym?" Basically, that's what you'd get.

2. What I was hoping for was a more realistic/plausible cuck or hotwife path option in general with some teasing, where they still have regular, healthy sex too, as well as a good relationship.
I've already asked, but is there any game which actually does this kind of thing? Because in my experience what you ask for is extremely niche compared to people who just want their character to get fully cucked and humiliated over it. And because of it devs don't bother with such route.

(i also wouldn't call such arrangement plausible, much less realistic, but that's another story)

3. Most important: All I'm saying is I'm disappointed by the path. I have no idea why you feel the need to contradict that.
I have no idea what makes you think am trying to contradict your "right to disappointment". I haven't written anything to such effect in my reply you quoted, and if you think otherwise, you're welcome to point me to where i said that.
 

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I've already asked, but is there any game which actually does this kind of thing? Because in my experience what you ask for is extremely niche compared to people who just want their character to get fully cucked and humiliated over it. And because of it devs don't bother with such route.

(i also wouldn't call such arrangement plausible, much less realistic, but that's another story)
The Adventurous Couple and A Life Worth Living seem to have what dontcarewhateverno wants.
 

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First of all, I hope the fucking Cindy does not fuck Axel and cheat on Ian cause I would fucking shoot both of them in their asses.

That said, is there any path where I can make Lena a cuckquean? In my save I turned the commitment down because I was too focused on Cindy, but now I am thinking about that.

I imagine it is probably possible to make her have sex with girls only (besides Ian), but what about a legit cuckquean Path?
you go in a relationship with a cheating hoe of your best friend and exspect that she is a good girl??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????:WaitWhat::WaitWhat::BootyTime: I am sorry but I think that ian would actually deserv this and choices should have consequences (not always good once this is not a soap) :devilish: :devilish: not only losing friendships for his decission but prob cindy in the long run too if your ian dont becomes a gigachad sucessful guy because so far we know that cindy likes to always stay in the middle of attention(which others guys could easy use),has probably a huge competition with lena and ivy in the future (exspacially ivy and we know she plays dirty god nows what happens if she is mad exited for that drama) and will be surrounded by guys,partys,drugs with the wildcats sucess yeah good luck dude:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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Going for someone else when one is in unhappy and disappointing relationship doesn't mean they will do the same at first opportunity when they're in a happy and fulfilling one.
I kinda like you mate :geek: :giggle: but common I can understand if people are on loving holly path with no drama/corruption or alison path without the tressome or corruption or loyal lena path that they are all over this girls and want a happy ending but I have to be honest cindy is not the one pls there are so many red flags (at the start the scene with the beer,always wants to stay in the middle ,goes on nudes photoshots without telling bf,instantly mad if not getting what she wants,cheating behind bf back ,the pool game if losing,dont instantly break up with her boyfriend and many more....) lets be honest the only reason why guys are all over her are her insanly good looks like the top cheerleader girl on campus but I actually think that cindy is not a good decissions for the romatic/no kinky bois in here(and not every girl has to be) and Ian would deserve consequences for that decission
 
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Going for someone else when one is in unhappy and disappointing relationship doesn't mean they will do the same at first opportunity when they're in a happy and fulfilling one.
I'd rather not take the risk. She was happy and fulfilled with Wade, and look at what's been happening now.
I kinda like you mate :geek: :giggle: but common I can understand if people are on loving holly path with no drama/corruption or alison path without the tressome or corruption or loyal lena path that they are all over this girls and want a happy ending but I have to be honest cindy is not the one pls there are so many red flags (at the start the scene with the beer,always wants to stay in the middle ,goes on nudes photoshots without telling bf,instantly mad if not getting what she wants,cheating behind bf back and many more....) lets be honest the only reason why guys are all over her are her insanly good looks like the top cheerleader girl on campus but I actually think that cindy is not a good decissions for the romatic/no kinky bois in here and Ian would deserve consequences for that decission
This guy gets it. Her super model looks hides an unreasonably petty and selfish girl.
 

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I'd rather not take the risk. She was happy and fulfilled with Wade, and look at what's been happening now.

This guy gets it. Her super model looks hides an unreasonably petty and selfish girl.
yeah I agree with you she is 100% not the best gf material but I will kinda go for her because I am the I can fix her /simp/loser typ of guy but i kinda exspect what will happen in the future and to be honest Ian deserves that for beaing a shitty friend :BootyTime:maybe wade will get his shit together and knock ians ass out :BootyTime: :BootyTime:
 
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2. What I was hoping for was a more realistic/plausible cuck or hotwife path option in general with some teasing, where they still have regular, healthy sex too, as well as a good relationship. A cuck/hotwife/teasting route doesn't have to be all extreme paypig (GGGB) or pure femdom/denial (as this is turning into) in the bedroom 100% of the time. And like with Eric in GGGB, I don't see it being a plausible long-term relationship that way. My suggestion to add the choice based on current assets from other routes was merely suggesting a way an alternate healthier relationship path could be provided with minimal effort that wouldn't feel so extreme/femdom. (Thought I explained that well enough in the previous post, too).
You probably won't get a dedicated route for it, as those are often mostly hyper-focused on a specific fetish, but you can probably kind of create the more nuanced scenario you're looking for in the "open-relationship" route (whenever that starts actually doing something in the game) by just having Lena sleep around while Ian doesn't.

Don't know if there will be any scenes dedicated to the hotwife aspect of it and there will probably be some unavoidable threesomes at some point, but I can see the writing addressing it at some point by being like:

Lena: Things have been going well with x, y, and z, might go see one of them this weekend. How about you Ian, you hooking up with anyone?
Ian: Not really, I guess I'm pretty satisfied just being with you and as long as we can trust each other it doesn't bother me to see you with other people.
 
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