VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[BloodyMares]

- The more nuanced teasing/loving Lena/Ian route was really well handled now, even allowing them to switch positions of dominance, plus it was written with more care, showing it was just kinky play & experimenting between an emotionally healthy couple. 1. Lena didn't automatically turn into super-bitch after a little teasing. 2. The user isn't locked into an extreme situation and can choose just light play, or even turn the tables a bit on who has the assertive role. 3. The writing took into account the situation where Lena and Ian have been a loving couple from the start [An Ian that's not hitting every pussy in sight and a Lena that's not a cock carousel]. She shows actual appropriate concern when he feels awkward about the play, as a couple who care for each other naturally would. Impressive & believable. Ethical slut route achieved. I haven't actually ever seen another game handle it this well. Curious what @BloodyMares thoughts are on those changes.

I'd say it's a collective victory and we dodged a huge bullet. From my understanding, Eva did intend to cut corners in writing and make Lena automatically turn into a bitch on the cucking path (she kind of still is in the no-sex route). But after I reported it initially (after the prologue), this Ch 11 scene was soon written to address it. It's still not ideal in the no-sex route (because Lena might not have any sex either, so she denies herself sex just as much), but overall the role-playing is handled with much better care, especially with an after-play consolatory deepthroating.

And the cherry on top is, you don't know to what extent Lena was telling the truth in her story or if she altered some details to intentionally make it more kinky (or conversely downplayed it if Ian isn't into it as much) or she did those things with someone else. So, it could just be her fantasy that never happened in reality or she was in fact even wilder in her younger days. We can never know for certain because Lena never references this story in her POV.

 

[camube]

been thinking about this since Ch 11 started, threesome with Louis (whether with Ian or Mike, but esp with Ian) is like playing with fire

 

[SerHawkes]

been thinking about this since Ch 11 started, threesome with Louis (whether with Ian or Mike, but esp with Ian) is like playing with fire

Considering Louise is the poor mans threesome, and Mike is the Sausage Party options, I'll take Ivy or Emma thank you...

That ain't fire. Thats playing with a pot of boiling water and spilling all over your crotch.

 

[mommysboiii]

Living up to the username.


She seems amused by him the same way an influencer thot would be with a poodle. Like a "dog-mom", but with her very own soyjack.

IVY: "So Cute! He thinks he's people!"
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ohh my lord I would go on a leash for ivy any day and even bark wuff wuff

hope for twisted ivy/ian hope ivy is not only for mega chad ian

hope there is at least ivy route were she use him to destroy cindy or something kinky for the non chad players

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I'd say it's a collective victory and we dodged a huge bullet. From my understanding, Eva did intend to cut corners in writing and make Lena automatically turn into a bitch on the cucking path (she kind of still is in the no-sex route). But after I reported it initially (after the prologue), this Ch 11 scene was soon written to address it. It's still not ideal in the no-sex route (because Lena might not have any sex either, so she denies herself sex just as much), but overall the role-playing is handled with much better care, especially with an after-play consolatory deepthroating.

And the cherry on top is, you don't know to what extent Lena was telling the truth in her story or if she altered some details to intentionally make it more kinky (or conversely downplayed it if Ian isn't into it as much) or she did those things with someone else. So, it could just be her fantasy that never happened in reality or she was in fact even wilder in her younger days. We can never know for certain because Lena never references this story in her POV.

Bluntly, this isn't correct. Almost every lena-ian sex scene in ch10-ch11 checks [if not ian_cuck] to proceed. I wouldn't call that an emotionally healthy couple. I was eager to see the evolution of this path - one where they were still a couple and in love, having sex, while she titillated him with stories of other guys, but that was not this - in many scenes the handjob option defaults by nature of the script conditions.

 

[zoomzoomzoom]

I say let the guy die of a heartattack already and let Holly move in with Louise and Lena.

Stan would not last if Lena decides to mess with him. It would be funny to see him cream his pants while getting teased.

 

[dolfe67]

And the cherry on top is, you don't know to what extent Lena was telling the truth in her story or if she altered some details to intentionally make it more kinky (or conversely downplayed it if Ian isn't into it as much) or she did those things with someone else. So, it could just be her fantasy that never happened in reality or she was in fact even wilder in her younger days. We can never know for certain because Lena never references this story in her POV.

If she didn't reflect on it on her POV saying otherwise, we can only assume it's true.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Dude literally gives Ian the stink eye after being introduce to Stan after he asks if Lena and Ian are a thing, then comes up with his whole confession when he knows Ian and Lena are a thing, making out like he's SUPER BETTER than our guy Ian whose been balls deep in Lena and knows how to take care of her. It's a laugh and makes Stan even more cringe worthy. I say let the guy die of a heartattack already and let Holly move in with Louise and Lena.

Holly moving to the aparment would be so cringe.
You know is going to happen too,the Evakiss self-insert has to be there 24/7.

 

[Tallyhoe]

EVA should add new variables if it's needed. To not fix the problem now because of fear ppl would lose old save is foolish and it will come back and haunt her in the future. Better fix it now before more problems pile on each other.

 

[ffive]

Dude literally gives Ian the stink eye after being introduce to Stan after he asks if Lena and Ian are a thing, then comes up with his whole confession when he knows Ian and Lena are a thing, making out like he's SUPER BETTER than our guy Ian whose been balls deep in Lena

NGL, i kind of stopped right there. You shouldn't distract the reader with this sort of imagery when you're trying to make a point.

 

[SerHawkes]

Holly moving to the aparment would be so cringe.
You know is going to happen too,the Evakiss self-insert has to be there 24/7.

Pretty sure Lola is the self insert, but sure, slander the wholesomest of waifus. See where that gets you.

NGL, i kind of stopped right there. You shouldn't distract the reader with this sort of imagery when you're trying to make a point.

I like to make my points fully detailed and explain the point throughly. Not my problem I'm a man of word imagery.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Pretty sure Lola is the self insert, but sure, slander the wholesomest of waifus. See where that gets you.

Your "waifu" is the self-insert.
Funny how you can completely try to ignore her with Lena and she STILL joins the pole dancing classes again,so annoying.

 

[YeColo]

We agree that Gillian left Ian for Mike?

 

[Vengeance_11]

We agree that Gillian left Ian for Mike?

He's the only person that fits the bill. You can't even call it a plot twist because literally everyone can see it coming a mile away.

 

[BlandChili]

We agree that Gillian left Ian for Mike?

No, given that Gillian was very recently decided to be added by Eva, and therefore never intended to play an active role originally, I don't think her boyfriend is anyone we know.

 

[ffive]

He's the only person that fits the bill. You can't even call it a plot twist because literally everyone can see it coming a mile away.

To be fair the twist (if it indeed happens) is easier to spot when the players have literally years to scrutinize and ponder every tiny bit of dialogue between the updates.

 

[Vengeance_11]

To be fair the twist (if it indeed happens) is easier to spot when the players have literally years to scrutinize and ponder every tiny bit of dialogue between the updates.

What got me thinking is that Eva opened up the cameo spots again for a spot in the upcoming epilogue. Chances that the mystery boyfriend will be whoever wins that spot and that Lena will meet them during her first shift at the club?

 

[ffive]

What got me thinking is that Eva opened up the cameo spots again for a spot in the upcoming epilogue. Chances that the mystery boyfriend will be whoever wins that spot and that Lena will meet them during her first shift at the club?

Hmm i guess it's possible, but i think the cameo might be for a smaller role, e.g. some completely random customer who shows up during Lena's bar shift. I mean, someone who is there so the mysterious boyfriend isn't the only person Lena gets to interact with.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

I'd say it's a collective victory and we dodged a huge bullet. From my understanding, Eva did intend to cut corners in writing and make Lena automatically turn into a bitch on the cucking path (she kind of still is in the no-sex route). But after I reported it initially (after the prologue), this Ch 11 scene was soon written to address it. It's still not ideal in the no-sex route (because Lena might not have any sex either, so she denies herself sex just as much), but overall the role-playing is handled with much better care, especially with an after-play consolatory deepthroating.

And the cherry on top is, you don't know to what extent Lena was telling the truth in her story or if she altered some details to intentionally make it more kinky (or conversely downplayed it if Ian isn't into it as much) or she did those things with someone else. So, it could just be her fantasy that never happened in reality or she was in fact even wilder in her younger days. We can never know for certain because Lena never references this story in her POV.

Thanks for bringing it up. You can tell her it was really well handled and that those of us who care about that route were impressed & appreciative. I was definitely convinced it'd be another GGGB repeat, which was my least favorite portion of that game. I haven't played the "no sex" for Ian route yet since it's not my thing. Maybe at the end of development for the Steam "Incel" achievement. But I'm glad she left it in, specifically for Mommisboii and others who want the path (though I never doubted she wouldn't). It would have been shitty to add/improve a more plausible path just to deny another pre-existing one certain fans had been following.

As you mentioned, I could see it being a weird situation in a scenario where a sexless Lena denies a sexless Ian, then suddenly turns into dom superbitch. It could be an easy text or script fix. But tbf, it's also a relatively small use-case. I don't imagine the "waiting until marriage" route to be too popular for anyone, considering it turns into a sexless game when neither MC is getting fucked.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

ohh my lord I would go on a leash for ivy any day and even bark wuff wuff

mommysboiii, don't ever change.