Gicoo

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Gents, I have just replayed the second dinner with Seymour, and in spite of all the disagreements I stand by my opinion: there is a real chance he is Lena's father and his one time he was in love was with Lena's mother. Just replay the conversation, to me it is almost obvious.
The main reason people disregard it is because patreon/stream etc. is stricter on incest tags.

This chapter threw Emma in as one of the candidates. Adopted, doesn't know her parents, Seymour is ultimatively taken down by his offspring he negleted, yadayada hybristic irony.
 
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The main reason people disregard it is because patreon/stream etc. is stricter on incest tags.

This chapter threw Emma in as one of the candidates. Adopted, doesn't know her parents, Seymour is ultimatively taken down by his offspring he negleted, yadayada hybristic irony.
Nah, when he inquires about Lena's parents health you can feel he thinks about her mother. And the whole talk at diner about he was in love once, he could not build a family at the time, but now he is ready to take care of someone and everything starts to fall back into place...It's crystal clear.
As for stream incest rules well he does not touch her at all does he. It's not like Ash expecting her father's baby.
 

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....Or they are both his daughters and Emma and Lena were separated at birth, and they find out they are sisters after having hooked up....And we are back to The Empire Strikes Back with Leia and Luke. LeIa, LeNa....
 

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It seems weird that not a solo romance scene was added for holly at the end in the final version, I assumed it would with how it was going. Its a mind boggling decison to only get the sex scene with holly at the end of this part if you are going for the trinity. I don't understand this decision, eva could of just changed a little dialogue and have the same images as the scene that played there on the trinity path at least.
If you don't mind me asking, who is involved in this trinity path? I don't mind spoilers. I'm guessing its lena and holly, but the third one? I may be wrong do correct me if i am.:)
 

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Got to say, I hate the changes that have been made to the cheating path. Making it so that Lena can't cheat with certain people, because Ian is friendly with them, is just plain stupid in my opinion. It makes no sense, because Ian discovering she's cheating, is hardly going to be better, because she took account of his feelings, by only cheating with people he doesn't know that well. Plus who makes judgements like that anyway in the face of outright lust? If you've already decided it's ok to cheat, what difference would Ian's relationship with that person really make? With Jeremy she's been secretly lusting after him, throughout the entire game, and has already given him a blowjob and sexted with him. Are we seriously expected to believe, that the Lena who has already succumbed to cheating with Mike and Axel, would resist the temptation to sleep with Jeremy, if she believed she could get away with it?
 

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Got to say, I hate the changes that have been made to the cheating path. Making it so that Lena can't cheat with certain people, because Ian is friendly with them, is just plain stupid in my opinion. It makes no sense, because Ian discovering she's cheating, is hardly going to be better, because she took account of his feelings, by only cheating with people he doesn't know that well. Plus who makes judgements like that anyway in the face of outright lust? If you've already decided it's ok to cheat, what difference would Ian's relationship with that person really make? With Jeremy she's been secretly lusting after him, throughout the entire game, and has already given him a blowjob and sexted with him. Are we seriously expected to believe, that the Lena who has already succumbed to cheating with Mike and Axel, would resist the temptation to sleep with Jeremy, if she believed she could get away with it?
Wait what changes did she make?
 

Zara Scarlet

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Wait what changes did she make?
If Lena is in a relationship with Ian, she can't have sex with Holly or Jeremy anymore, because Ian is friendly with both of them. Prior to the last update, Lena could have sex with Holly several times from the 'photoshoot event' in Lena's room, just before Ivy's Party ( including a threesome with Ivy in the Gym Showers). She could also have a threesome with Louise and Jeremy, after Louise asks her during her music gig at the pub, and then later give Jeremy a blowjob at Blazer, when she works there as a bartender ( there was an alternate scene here with Marcel, that now becomes the default if Lena and Ian are in a relationship). If you are on the cuck route, not having the threesome with Jeremy and Louise, also automatically rules out the threesome with Mike and Louise. All these scenes just vanished in the last update, which meant I had to replay the content from Chapter 10 on several playthroughs.

Omitting the Holly content makes even less sense. Because would Ian even mind Lena and Holly having sex?
 
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Omitting the Holly content makes even less sense. Because would Ian even mind Lena and Holly having sex?
The player can, in fact, make it clear they mind Holly and Lena getting close, to the point where you can break up with Holly over it.

Not everyone in this world shares EK's view "if it's with another girl then it doesn't count".

Also, i don't remember Lena actually being able to have sex with Holly if Lena and Ian are a couple. Fairly sure this ability was blocked long before the latest update (if even available at all) and that's where lena_go_holly thing even comes from. If you somehow were able to get these two to have sex in such setup, then it was a bug.
 
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lucadiadis

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The player can, in fact, make it clear they mind Holly and Lena getting close, to the point where you can break up with Holly over it.

Not everyone in this world shares EK's view "if it's with another girl then it doesn't count".

Also, i don't remember Lena actually being able to have sex with Holly if Lena and Ian are a couple. Fairly sure this ability was blocked long before the latest update (if even available at all) and that's where lena_go_holly thing even comes from. If you somehow were able to get these two to have sex in such setup, then it was a bug.
They could have sex in a threesome with Ivy in the shower actually.
 

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Havent played in a while but i saw that there's a new scene with the red haired girl ( forgot her name ), is she possible as a solo route for Ian without Lena being involved with her?
 

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The player can, in fact make it clear they mind Holly and Lena getting close, to the point where you can break up with Holly over it.

Not everyone in this world shares EK's view "if it's with another girl then it doesn't count".
Yeah, but I'm not talking about Holly and Ian's relationship, I'm talking about the relationship between Ian and Lena which has a completely different dynamic, because both of them can actively cheat on each other. The Ian who has a relationship with Holly, is not the same as the Ian who dates Lena. Even if Ian doesn't cheat, Lena is open to a lot more temptation than Holly ever would be, simply because she works as a nude model. So Ian has already had to make allowances for that, just to date her at all, which he never has to do with Holly.

The way I see it, the Ian who dates Lena, would never date Holly, even if he really likes her. Lena is exciting and sexy, the kind of girl Ian couldn't dream of ever dating in the past. And in order to date her, he's had to step up his game, which means he no longer see's a girl like Holly as a potential girlfriend. And we know that, because Holly tells Lena and Ivy, that she can't compare to someone like Lena in Ian's eyes.

And there is no point during Ian and Lena's relationship, where that question ever arises, because Ian is mainly concerned by Lena's possible interactions with other men, which isn't a factor in his relationship with Holly. And during Ivy's Party, he states his biggest fantasy, is having sex with two women. Which suggests he's open to the possibility of Lena being with another woman.
 

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I'm talking about the relationship between Ian and Lena which has a completely different dynamic, because both of them can actively cheat on each other.
Lena who is in relationship with Ian holds back with Holly out of concern for Holly, not Ian. She's explicit about it, that she doesn't want to get Holly all confused and involved in the mess of her relationship, because she's aware Holly has a crush on Ian in addition to whatever feelings she might have for Lena. In fact, Lena who is also cheating on Ian with other people will reduce her lena_go_holly variable out of this concern.

Just because Lena can choose to cheat on Ian doesn't mean she's a raging asshole with no regard for anyone's feelings. Holly is made a cinnamon roll exception here and apparently the only way for these three is a fully consensual throuple with all parties aware what they're getting into.
 
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