VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

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lucadiadis

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ffive said:
Yes, the extra interactions with Wade only happen if Lena has been cheating and intends to keep it up, so it wouldn't really make sense to bring him up in the scenario where nothing between Lena and Wade occurred (the 'pure' Lena/Ian path)

Regarding the trinity, i'm not sure -- from the code, it seems that it's possible to have mmf talk and the trinity as long as Lena has been cheating, but it may be unintended side-effect of how the paths are arranged atm. In theory, if Ian has left the possibility of trinity open and Lena has fucked Axel in Ch.12, the trinity talk will be delayed until after this scene. Theoretically, as long as Ian stopped thinking about Gillian he may be able to activate the trinity at that point, once the currently missing branch (Lena/Ian, trinity pending during the evening) gets implemented. But it's just as likely that Lena entangled with Axel will block the trinity from happening.
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Thank you for all the help to work this out but I'm not sure I follow I'm sorry. What I understand from the code is that with a non-cheating Lena, MFM discussions and Holly threesome are mutually exclusive. I have tested it: I have gone through my main playthrough leading to the trouple with a loyal Lena, and in that case Lena and Ian do NOT talk about the MFM. I re-started a full playthrough with loyal Lena being only friendly to Holly, thus Holly does not kiss her, and in that case Ian and Lena DO have the MFM talk but since Lena has not cheated nothing happens with Wade.
What I deduct from this is:
1. You do not get the HollyXLenaXIan threesome if loyal Lena has a MFM fantasy, and that's really disappointing
2. You do not have the Wade teasing if Lena has been faithful, and that's extremely frustrating too.

If you know a way to have the loyal LenaXHollyXIan threesome AND the MFM talk, then you become my hero.
If you know a way to have the loyal LenaXHollyXIan threesome AND the MFM talk AND the Wade teasing, then I build a church on my island to worship your grace.
 
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lucadiadis said:
What I understand from the code is that with a non-cheating Lena, MFM discussions and Holly threesome are mutually exclusive.
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Yes, that's correct. If the trinity isn't shut down at this point and Lena hasn't cheated, then the talk about MMF gets skipped. I guess you could consider it as Lena having no real interest in MMF if she has a thing for Holly and only has sex with Ian.
 
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JohnnyR6 said:
It's been quite a while since I last played this game. How do you know you are on a LI's "romance" path? Do you just choose the heart options in the walkthrough? For a Cindy romance path, is there any important decisions worth mentioning or are they obvious? Do you have to avoid any other girls in order to stay on the Cindy romance path?

I'm thinking of restarting this to go down the Cindy path with Ian, and then make Lena "the professional" - she avoids the fuck-bois and just gets slutty for money.
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Just check the agenda part of your character's phone.
 
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I don't think cheating is needed to have the MMF talk, just did a sexless Ian/Loyal Lena path and it still happens. Or is it some kind of bug?
 
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johnsman said:
I don't think cheating is needed to have the MMF talk, just did a sexless Ian/Loyal Lena path and it still happens. Or is it some kind of bug?
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If it's sexless Ian and Lena path you should by default have cuck = 3, maybe 2, and if cuck variable is greater than 1 in this update Lena will make moves on Wade to tease Ian.
 
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ffive said:
Yes, that's correct. If the trinity isn't shut down at this point and Lena hasn't cheated, then the talk about MMF gets skipped. I guess you could consider it as Lena having no real interest in MMF if she has a thing for Holly and only has sex with Ian.
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Thought as much. EK keeps on disappointing me every step of the way. My temptation to patreon her has now completely vanished.
 
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ffive said:
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this is not a bug per se, but more of logic issue: a number of decisions regarding relationships in the current update (agreeing to the Holly trinity, forgiving Lena for her cheating, etc) are gated by if gillian_stop which doesn't make sense when the game didn't require it until now where forming relationships, and Ian doesn't even mention Gillian anywhere during these decision points (or elsewhere for this matter) as a factor influencing/blocking his decisions. At the very least it makes this condition very unintuitive.

The logic feels especially weird in scenario where Ian cannot choose to forgive Lena who is still hang up on Axel, even though he is in the same exact situation (being hang up on his own ex) which should, if anything, make it easier to understand/forgive than the opposite of completely blocking it.
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I disagree with your logic:
  1. IIRC in all cases of lena_axel_desire being True Lena has fucked Axel except if she just dreamt of sucking his cock and afterwards spent some will points to not act on it (I think that's possible). So in most cases, they are not in the same situation at all with Ian just being hung up on his ex figuratively and Lena being hung up on his ex's cock literally. Maybe there should be some difference on the code to account for Lena just having a dream, although I don't know how Jeremy could know this unless he can read minds and it's doubtful that he can't even read at all.

  2. Let's say that Lena just had a dream and is in the same situation as Ian with Gillian. She still is on the same situation only theoretically, in practice Lena's ex actively wants to fuck her and Ian's ex seems to be totally over him. So very different situation.

  3. And even ignoring my other two points. It might make sense to forgive someone for not being over her ex when you are not over yours, but does it make sense to continue such a relationship where both of you are in that situation?. It's consistent with not being able to enter in a non casual relationship with Holly if you are not over Gillian.

ffive said:
Dang, slutty Holly is so brazen, you gotta love it.

Ian: breaks up with Lena
Lena: cries about it in Holly's/Emma's room
Holly: IT'S A FREE ESTATE *sneaks into Ian's room*

:whistle::coffee:
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Hottest scene of the update along with the threesome and punishing cheating Lena.
 
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Maviarab said:
He is not tlaking about self logic...but script code logic which, can't be disagreed with (unless error in the code as he pointed out). ;)
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But that's what he is doing, disagreeing with code logic because he thinks it's not consistent with real life logic or previous character/game logic. Which is totally cool, I just disagree with him.
 
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Socrambus said:
So in most cases, they are not in the same situation at all with Ian just being hung up on his ex figuratively and Lena being hung up on his ex's cock literally.
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I think it depends on how you look at it -- imo the root issue is the same (being hung up on the ex) while the difference between affair and lack thereof comes mostly from not being provided with the same opportunity of the ex hounding the protagonist and wanting to get them back. It's an open question whether Ian would resist Gillian's attempts to get him back should she extend such effort, and at the very least he should be able to empathize with difficulty of such choice, even more so if he's already cheated on Lena with other people.

It might make sense to forgive someone for not being over her ex when you are not over yours, but does it make sense to continue such a relationship where both of you are in that situation?. It's consistent with not being able to enter in a non casual relationship with Holly if you are not over Gillian.
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Well, the thing is perhaps this question should be left as actual question/decision for the player and not the game arbitrarily deciding it for them? Not being able to commit to Holly based on feelings for Gillian also feel to me like eleventh hour ass pull for this matter, considering lack of such qualms throughout the game when it was a question of entering non-casual relationship with Lena or other girls who aren't Holly.
 
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Can someone please share the save exactly before the break up or open relationship decision with Lena. I just can't seem to get it on any of my playthroughs. Thanks
 
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elysium1988 said:
Can someone please share the break up or open relationship save with Lena. I just can't seem to get it on any of my playthroughs. Thanks
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I've posted a "punish Lena scene" save a bit earlier. This is on path where Ian and Lena establish full open relationship.
 
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