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Blurpee69

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Cherry is close to underdeveloped
I strongly believe this is set to change, though I doubt she's going to develop out into an Allison or Cindy. Probably matching Emma.

With Cherry, it's important to remember how she is introduced to the player, to the rest of the cast, AND what her history is. We meet Cherry as a tag along with Allison, a character we know has had a crush on Ian and whom both Ian and the player have already had an opportunity to interact with and form a bond. This is also Cherry's only jumping on point, first or single time players will often miss their chance with Cherry. That fact aside, Cherry knows that Allison has a crush on Ian, and tries to appropriately play wingwoman so she sits with Perry and distracts him from Ian and Allison, unless the player decides to focus on Cherry. Same deal the next time at the Fortress. It's only after this second time that Cherry thinks it's more than a fling, but she isn't ready to call it more than friends with benefits at best. She's still hung up on Axel at this time, in a similar vein to Lena.

On a likely first time playthrough though, Cherry likely feels she's just a sometimes friend of the group. While also being someone that Perry can catch feelings for. Most players will probably assume that Cherry is here exclusively for Perry, and think they need to try, or not, play wingman for Perry.

Jump to chapter 8. By this time, even if the player isn't hooking up with Cherry, we have an idea of Lena's past and that Axel hurt her and there was another woman involved. We don't know the full details at this point, but that's about to change. We've now had 8 Chapters of getting to know Lena and only two short scenes with Cherry, or none at all, and Lena has a freakout at seeing Cherry at Ian and Perry's apartment. Most players will be trained, due to familiarity, to side with Lena. Both because of her character and the vast difference in content. So even if Ian has been hooking up with Cherry, they'll be tempted to break it off here so as not to lose Lena. Cherry is now an "antagonist" to one of our characters after all. She even admits it when Ian next talks with her.

So Cherry hasn't had a lot of content up to this point because of what her roll in the story has been. At first a wingwoman. Then as a point of friction with one of our MCs. But she did just get several scenes in quick succession just before the beach house and crammed in a lot of good character development for her between the gala, the post gala get together, and staying the night at her place. EK even went out of their way to give Cherry an excuse, and honestly a pretty good one, to not have much content during or immediately after the beach house. Something EK has not done previously with the long periods of drought in Cherry content. Just to double back for a quick second. That EK even had the background made for Cherry's apartment is a good indicator that we'll be seeing more of her. If Cherry was just going to continue being an every now and again character, EK wouldn't have developed a completely unique asset for a one time use. Let alone probably the most detailed background we've seen. Cherry would just keep coming over to Ian's place.

Off the Cherry topic for a second, but still tangentially related. Minerva doesn't have a unique background yet. We've only seen her in previously used asset locations. The hotelroom she takes Ian to is a reused asset from Allison and / or Holly's trips. And all of her workplace sex scenes use the office background, even for her "private office." Hopefully that changes once Ian can give her the necklace he bought her.

Edit: I lied here about Minerva. Shame on me for not doing better research. Minerva doesn't have unique background, but her appearance changes after each time Ian has sex with her. So she is getting unique assets, they're just being used more regularly as part of her character.
 
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I strongly believe this is set to change, though I doubt she's going to develop out into an Allison or Cindy. Probably matching Emma.

With Cherry, it's important to remember how she is introduced to the player, to the rest of the cast, AND what her history is. We meet Cherry as a tag along with Allison, a character we know has had a crush on Ian and whom both Ian and the player have already had an opportunity to interact with and form a bond. This is also Cherry's only jumping on point, first or single time players will often miss their chance with Cherry. That fact aside, Cherry knows that Allison has a crush on Ian, and tries to appropriately play wingwoman so she sits with Perry and distracts him from Ian and Allison, unless the player decides to focus on Cherry. Same deal the next time at the Fortress. It's only after this second time that Cherry thinks it's more than a fling, but she isn't ready to call it more than friends with benefits at best. She's still hung up on Axel at this time, in a similar vein to Lena.

On a likely first time playthrough though, Cherry likely feels she's just a sometimes friend of the group. While also being someone that Perry can catch feelings for. Most players will probably assume that Cherry is here exclusively for Perry, and think they need to try, or not, play wingman for Perry.

Jump to chapter 8. By this time, even if the player isn't hooking up with Cherry, we have an idea of Lena's past and that Axel hurt her and there was another woman involved. We don't know the full details at this point, but that's about to change. We've now had 8 Chapters of getting to know Lena and only two short scenes with Cherry, or none at all, and Lena has a freakout at seeing Cherry at Ian and Perry's apartment. Most players will be trained, due to familiarity, to side with Lena. Both because of her character and the vast difference in content. So even if Ian has been hooking up with Cherry, they'll be tempted to break it off here so as not to lose Lena. Cherry is now an "antagonist" to one of our characters after all. She even admits it when Ian next talks with her.

So Cherry hasn't had a lot of content up to this point because of what her roll in the story has been. At first a wingwoman. Then as a point of friction with one of our MCs. But she did just get several scenes in quick succession just before the beach house and crammed in a lot of good character development for her between the gala, the post gala get together, and staying the night at her place. EK even went out of their way to give Cherry an excuse, and honestly a pretty good one, to not have much content during or immediately after the beach house. Something EK has not done previously with the long periods of drought in Cherry content. Just to double back for a quick second. That EK even had the background made for Cherry's apartment is a good indicator that we'll be seeing more of her. If Cherry was just going to continue being an every now and again character, EK wouldn't have developed a completely unique asset for a one time use. Let alone probably the most detailed background we've seen. Cherry would just keep coming over to Ian's place.

Off the Cherry topic for a second, but still tangentially related. Minerva doesn't have a unique background yet. We've only seen her in previously used asset locations. The hotelroom she takes Ian to is a reused asset from Allison and / or Holly's trips. And all of her workplace sex scenes use the office background, even for her "private office." Hopefully that changes once Ian can give her the necklace he bought her.
too bad u should choose between cherry or alison from the begining
 

Hungover00

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too bad u should choose between cherry or alison from the begining
You can choose Cherry, Emma, Alison (in that order), but Jeremy would have hit Alison up too. You can add Cindy(or Holly), Lena, Minerva, and Louise possibly as well. If you're doing a 'notch on the bedpost' run, that's probably your best bet. And there are a few late game onramps as well.
 

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You can choose Cherry, Emma, Alison (in that order), but Jeremy would have hit Alison up too. You can add Cindy(or Holly), Lena, Minerva, and Louise possibly as well. If you're doing a 'notch on the bedpost' run, that's probably your best bet. And there are a few late game onramps as well.
as i m trying to make lena ian exclusive,jeremy will have alison whatever i do lol i have the hope and feeling she will forgive ian
at the end.I think eva didn t close yet ian/alison path.
 

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as i m trying to make lena ian exclusive,jeremy will have alison whatever i do lol i have the hope and feeling she will forgive ian
at the end.I think eva didn t close yet ian/alison path
Alison feels like she's on permanent stand by for Ian. There's probably more on-ramps for her than Lena or Holly combined.
 

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Might be out of left field, but in a different timeline I could see EK using Tim Deen and Jadilica for Ian and Lena, and one of their frequent thirds for Louise.

But I doubt that would match up with the 5+ years of dev time.
 

Eleanorduval

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Yeah, if you don't purge Gillian from your thoughts, it'll be harder to love or commit to other characters.
if don t let holly have sex with ivy and lena,bring her to home i can avoid the gloryhole right? 1st save i letted holly have sex with ivy at ivy house
 

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if don t let holly have sex with ivy and lena,bring her to home i can avoid the gloryhole right? 1st save i letted holly have sex with ivy at ivy house
Don't let Ivy fuck Holly (at her home or in the showers), and don't encourage Holly to fuck random club rats. But you can have her idiolise Lena and work out at the pole-dancing class, but you have to be very careful after that point, or you'll bump her into Ivy's current.

That has nothing to do with Gillian though. Gillian thoughts mostly fuck up Ian committing to a new relationship, like Lena or Holly (or the Trinity). So, let him still have feelings for Gillian if you want Ian to be a slutty fuckboi.
 

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Imagine being hung up on Gillian when there are literal sirens around the town. If my Ian was hung up on Gillian, I'd straight away make him a cuck and a loser in every aspect of his life. Sorry, not sorry! :coffee:
Ian spent many years with her, not something you can't automatically forget even if you want to. His friends comment on how the relationship seemed to be a great one. We also don't know the exact circumstances of the breakup, nor how Gillian sees that and Ian presently.
So currently, her plotline is a decent mystery with tons of potential (even more so if her new boyfriend is Mike).

Contrast it with Lena/Axel, which was shown to be toxic in the prologue and which doesn't have any mysteries or secrets left.

Regarding the cuck route, it gives Ian a plausible motivation/reason to be a cuck, rather just transforming a normal guy to absolute doormat without elaboration/justification.
 

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We also don't know the exact circumstances of the breakup, nor how Gillian sees that and Ian presently.
She cheated on him. Ian was never bad in bed, and Alison did say she asked Gillian about it. So you can rule out "not being satisfied". Gillian probably wanted more adventure in her life and committed to cheating. When a person does that, you can move on. True, it takes time, but meeting new people helps with it. Baluart is filled with various types of people, which will help Ian move on.
 

Eleanorduval

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Don't let Ivy fuck Holly (at her home or in the showers), and don't encourage Holly to fuck random club rats. But you can have her idiolise Lena and work out at the pole-dancing class, but you have to be very careful after that point, or you'll bump her into Ivy's current.

That has nothing to do with Gillian though. Gillian thoughts mostly fuck up Ian committing to a new relationship, like Lena or Holly (or the Trinity). So, let him still have feelings for Gillian if you want Ian to be a slutty fuckboi.
u rock u and the guys! great we help each other on this thread.Ughh i have to replay chapter 8 again lol did u win mma tournament once?
 

GokutheG

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She cheated on him. Ian was never bad in bed, and Alison did say she asked Gillian about it. So you can rule out "not being satisfied". Gillian probably wanted more adventure in her life and committed to cheating. When a person does that, you can move on. True, it takes time, but meeting new people helps with it. Baluart is filled with various types of people, which will help Ian move on.
I know Gil left him when they were dating. When was it said outright that she cheated tho? I know that's the scenario from Ian's nightmare and it's believed that she has a new boyfriend. I just don't remember which character said she cheated. I haven't played from the beginning in a while.
 
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