Hungover00
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They can only control her because she allows it (unless they are physically locking her up). So if she allows them to control her some of the time, why was the vacation not one of those times? Being gone for days at a time feels like it'd trigger some Fundie parents.
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Short is answer is we don't know.
Else, a vacation doesn't necessarily implicates sex and drugs. If Holly phrased it carefully and cleverly (which would be very much in her character), the parents are likely sold on that it will be a very safe place. Holly also has no criminal record the parents know of, so they thrust their well-behaved child and won't suspect it would go in as debaucherous ways as she will on some routes.
I get the feeling people are bit confused here. Holly's parents don't have her chained to a radiator 24/7 "because they're fundies". She can leave her house normally, go to book signing trips, visit friends and spend night with Ian if she wishes to. In short, live pretty normal life. She attended the beach trip because perhaps her parents simply trusted her to be mature enough (in their sense of the word) not to do anything stupid while vacationing with friends for a few days.
Her parents only got pissed off and grounded her because --while she was gone-- they discovered birth control in her room and concluded from this she's having pre-marital sex.
Who knows, with this cat out of the bag maybe Ian/Holly arc ending will be shotgun wedding...
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Yeah. On the non romantic path you can even beg her. Minnie is the best!
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Could you please tell me what are you both using (mod, debug or something) for variables and conditions to be visible like that?
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I think she was probably lying about the Ian part for any overnights, because if they are going to freak out about BC, a night at the boyfriends is going to be just as bad.I get the feeling people are bit confused here. Holly's parents don't have her chained to a radiator 24/7 "because they're fundies". She can leave her house normally, go to book signing trips, visit friends and spend night with Ian if she wishes to. In short, live pretty normal life. She attended the beach trip because perhaps her parents simply trusted her to be mature enough (in their sense of the word) not to do anything stupid while vacationing with friends for a few days.
Her parents only got pissed off and grounded her because they discovered birth control in her room and concluded from this she's having pre-marital sex.
And no, I didn't think they were chaining her up. More discussing where their line of control was, and where it will be now. Work would be a hard one to take away. Book related trips are likely grudgingly tolerated, as were some of the late nights out with Lena/Ivy (though she still had to leave early, like Cinderella). I'm very curious how slutty Holly and Ivy worked around, or through, that issue.
But now on an Ian/Throuple playthrough the jig is up. I don't know what happens on a nerd Holly single playthrough. And slutty Holly didn't come out, but never explained why. So the decision point is upon her, tolerate the control or break her chains.
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Richard may be one of the worst. Richard, Rich, Rick, Richie, Ricky, Dick, Dicky.
Robert has Robert, Rob, Robby, Bob, Bobby. William has William, Will, Willy, Bill, Billy, Liam (more Irish). And even then, they were so common they'd get an additional identifier, like Daft Will, or Short Billy, or whatever creative shit their social group decided on.
I mean the chaining up in the sense that her parents, despite some people's preconceptions, weren't actually overly strict with Holly before. Hence the whole discussion "how comes they allowed her to go on vacation for a few days" is imo just a self-induced issue that was never an actual issue.
Like, obv. i don't think Holly would outright tell her parents "hey i'm going to spend few days with my boyfriend and we're going to fuck like rabbits while there" because few normal daughters make announcements like that when they go ob vacation with their friends. Even if their parents aren't fundies. But simply telling them that she's going to spend a few days with her friends probably wasn't something that her parents would deem absolutely unacceptable for their adult daughter to partake in.
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The mods I use are URM and Universal Choice Descriptor. You can download both of them on this site.
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Now that the cat's out the bag I wonder if they're going to lock her in a chastity belt.
That would be funny if it happened. And also fucked up.You're something else
... And I'm guessing your referring to a Chad Ian. I wasn't aware his sexual prowess offered life changing decisions to that extent ..... but tbh I wouldn't be mad at it , if it resulted in Ivy character having more depth. So far Ivy's manipulation hasn't been working in her favor (career wise) but I digress I'm hoping the next update focus on giving her some form of branching either good or bad. Idk if the good path would be similar to Jessica's redemption arc in GGGB but in that scenario... Ashley was dating Jessica.
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Good Jess can also end up with Dave in GGGB. Provided Eva went all-in in degen mode. There are two variants of good Jess dating partners in ORS, too. The non-Seymour path is Ash and Seymour's path is Dave.You're something else
People don't know that there is truth and "truth":
- Mom, Dad, I'm going on vacation with my friends to a beach town. I'll go with Ian, a writer; Perry, the mayor's son; Emma, a sweet girl who helps those in need; Wede, who's going through a rough time right now; and Lena, a great composer.
- Mom, Dad, I'm going on vacation to the beach with my boyfriend to fuck like rabbits and take drugs, accompanied by the good-for-nothing Perry; Emma, the radical leftist who supplies us with acid; the unemployed Wede; and the onlifans model Lena, with whom I'm hoping to have a threesome.
Technically, both are true, but only one would allow your parents to let you go.
- Mom, Dad, I'm going on vacation with my friends to a beach town. I'll go with Ian, a writer; Perry, the mayor's son; Emma, a sweet girl who helps those in need; Wede, who's going through a rough time right now; and Lena, a great composer.
- Mom, Dad, I'm going on vacation to the beach with my boyfriend to fuck like rabbits and take drugs, accompanied by the good-for-nothing Perry; Emma, the radical leftist who supplies us with acid; the unemployed Wede; and the onlifans model Lena, with whom I'm hoping to have a threesome.
Technically, both are true, but only one would allow your parents to let you go.
The whole point is that she is 23 not 15. She shouldn't need her parents permission to do anything. It would be another situation if she were a jobless loser like Perry, but she could be financially independent. She just has to tell her parents that she's an adult and if her parents don't like it, she can leave their home.
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"My house, my rules."
Age doesn't really matter in this context, so long as your landlord has rules, you're expected to follow them or gtfo. Children and teens are in pretty difficult spot here in such context, but like people love to point out, Holly is an adult. And if Holly for whatever reason isn't capable of gtfo'ing, then her claims of adulthood are somewhat weakened.
(by incapable here i mean more that she seems unwilling to leave, whether it's because this arrangement is more convenient for her, she's scared to be on her own or whatever; as opposed to being physically prevented from leaving)
Eh 'my house my rules' applies to what happens in said house. If the parents don't want boys coming over that's fair. But what Holly does outside isn't really any of their business and it's pretty controlling. She had to lie about who was going to the beach and got shit for practicing safe sex outside of their house. I've never heard of that controlling parents in my circles even amongst those that have lived with their parents past adulthood.
Like if Ian asked Perry to cover his rent, I don't think that'd give Perry the right to forbid him from sex. And as we see from Holly, those kinds of rules aren't enforceable.
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Overcontrolling parents and adults who still live with their parents is a common trope in media and also based of RL. They live at their parents place under their rule or they get forced out if they don't behave.
Entirely different dynamic. Perry is not Ians father, who actually threw Ian out precisely because Ian broke his thrust with him by staging a party while his parents where absent.
And if Ian fucks Cindy, Perry likely does throw him out, even if Ians love life is technically not his concern.
The comment I was replying to specified landlord. Which I interpreted as being anyone facilitating the tenants stay, that's where the Perry example came from, of course as a parent you have more say than a Perry, but the point is the same, you don't make bs rules for an adult for what they do outside of your house. Even in the Ian example you gave, he threw a party at his dad's house. No way would any reasonable father throw out their son if they went to someone else party, the problem was throwing it under his roof. What Holly did was have sex outside of her parents, unlike Ian.