VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

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Zara Scarlet said:
Yeah, but you're still missing the point. Wherever, she got that experience, it wasn't during the game. Come on, it's not that hard to understand. Just because she might be the biggest slut, doesn't necessarily mean she's the most promiscuous person in the game. For that, she has to do this stuff during the game, and she doesn't. At least no where near as much as Lena, or Ian for that matter.

I'm not interested in proving that Ivy's not a slut. It's fairly obvious that she is, and I have zero problem with it. Any more than I have a problem with slutty Lena, slutty Holly or Chad Ian. I'm not trying to suggest that Ivy doesn't corrupt Holly or encourages Lena to fool around, it's exceptionally clear that she does. I'm just saying that during the game, she's not the most promiscuous. That is Lena, on the route where she stays single, and fools around with as many people as she can. And then it's Ian on the Chad route. How many sex scenes do Ian and Lena have in the game, and how many does Ivy have? There's absolutely no comparison. Ivy has a handful and Ian and Lena have dozens.
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By your premise, we might as well assume that Lena's brother is a upstanding politician, or that Gillian's boyfriend is Tony Soprano, because they've never been shown to do anything in the game that we've been told about them, and in your scenario we completely ignore context clues to the contrary.

Ivy is not forthcoming. We can tell that from how she keeps information from Lena about both Axel and Mike, and maybe others that I'm not even remembering. When Lena confronts her over Mike, Lena is able to guess, correctly, that they hooked up because Ivy says that she and Mike get along. Lena, her best friend, who knows Ivy best, understands that when she gets along with a guy, they hook up.

Pretending that she's not promiscuous simply because she's not a POV character is absurd. Lena and Ian would have to follow her around, tied at her hip, to reach the burden of proof of her promiscuity that you're asking for.
 
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Honestly, can't believe I am saying this... But I'm gonna side with Zara on this matter because they do have a point.

In terms of overall content alone, scenes and such, Ian and Lena are the biggest sluts around, where as Ivy only has a handful, mainly yuri focused. What might and is "implied" about her happenings is more so under the rank and file of off-screen action. And no one cares about what happens off screen anyways.

The issue however, is that Eva Kiss made out Ivy to be the 'slut' of the game. Dresses slutty, seemingly DTF, fun girl in the bedding department. And yet though, that very much isn't the case. She flirts, teases, has some measure of interest with the guys, but nothing really happens fully. It's only 'mentioned in passing' or 'past actions'. While her relationships and relations with Lena, and by proxy Holly, are determined by the player, I would say she is more of a Nun than Slut at the point. If EK wanted to she could have had Ivy be riding dicks for days, have her brag or tease Lena about what all she did, etc. But that's not the case.

So... Could Ivy's overall character and behavior and mannerisms simply be an act of sorts to stroke her ego of her own views, ala having Lena be casual and Holly awaken her slut streak, or could there be a deeper sider to her that has insecurities and flaws that we have yet to see?
 
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GibboBtw said:
Bro, you must know some wild ass nuns in your town :ROFLMAO:

Are you sure your local church isn’t just a brothel? :unsure:
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Considering the one time I did a gal in church in a confessional booth in my youngerish of days... No comment.

And by Nun I'm meaning content. If Ivy was half the slut she is implied to be, we would have seen more of her with alot more males. Not the case. The only time she is remotely with a guy is with Jeremy, and thats only either a partial on screen moment or in most cases an 'off screen event'. So in short, she is a Nun.
 
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SerHawkes said:
Considering the one time I did a gal in church in a confessional booth in my youngerish of days... No comment.

And by Nun I'm meaning content. If Ivy was half the slut she is implied to be, we would have seen more of her with alot more males. Not the case. The only time she is remotely with a guy is with Jeremy, and thats only either a partial on screen moment or in most cases an 'off screen event'. So in short, she is a Nun.
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Tis true. Ivy be a lyin virgin! Lola be the most experienced gal on da block
 
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SerHawkes said:
So... Could Ivy's overall character and behavior and mannerisms simply be an act of sorts to stroke her ego of her own views, ala having Lena be casual and Holly awaken her slut streak, or could there be a deeper sider to her that has insecurities and flaws that we have yet to see?
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I don't think the two are exclusive. This is Eva we're talking about. There is some insecurity or nuance to why she is the way she is, but she's also riding dick for days.
 
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JoeSte91 said:
I don't think the two are exclusive. This is Eva we're talking about. There is some insecurity or nuance to why she is the way she is, but she's also riding dick for days.
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Supposedly, sure. But I suspect that isn't the case.
 
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Despite the fact that we have male and female MCs, game is still made with male gaze in mind, it's the main player base. So since Eva still tries to squeeze in different scenarios patrons push for, it's much easier for her to do that using Lena as the precursor.

Ian is varied outside of mindless fucking because ironically, there ain't much to do with him as far as sex scenes.

We have Chad/player, romantic/loyal and submissive/cuck. That's pretty much as far as it can go for him. This leaves plenty of writing space for character development and relationships outside of soulless sex scenes.

Lena—and other female characters by proxy—is who Eva uses to make the freaky shit that keeps her patrons happy.

So while Ian has a couple compact paths that don't fully conflict with one another, Lena has so many options that make her branching really feel disjointed and—I assume—hard to keep track of and maintain consistency over the course of the story.
 
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SerHawkes said:
Honestly, can't believe I am saying this... But I'm gonna side with Zara on this matter because they do have a point.

In terms of overall content alone, scenes and such, Ian and Lena are the biggest sluts around, where as Ivy only has a handful, mainly yuri focused. What might and is "implied" about her happenings is more so under the rank and file of off-screen action. And no one cares about what happens off screen anyways.

The issue however, is that Eva Kiss made out Ivy to be the 'slut' of the game. Dresses slutty, seemingly DTF, fun girl in the bedding department. And yet though, that very much isn't the case. She flirts, teases, has some measure of interest with the guys, but nothing really happens fully. It's only 'mentioned in passing' or 'past actions'. While her relationships and relations with Lena, and by proxy Holly, are determined by the player, I would say she is more of a Nun than Slut at the point. If EK wanted to she could have had Ivy be riding dicks for days, have her brag or tease Lena about what all she did, etc. But that's not the case.

So... Could Ivy's overall character and behavior and mannerisms simply be an act of sorts to stroke her ego of her own views, ala having Lena be casual and Holly awaken her slut streak, or could there be a deeper sider to her that has insecurities and flaws that we have yet to see?
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You only agree with Zara, because you want to believe in your holy virgin Ivy waifu.


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Gicoo said:
GGGB is insane for a first work. But its just that, a first work. Repeating it again would be pointless, so naturally Eva got significantly more ambitious and went in another direction.
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That's the great thing about GGGB, no matter how many times you play it it always has something new you've never seen before, I recently replayed it and was amazed at the things I didn't see before, and it also served to reaffirm my hatred of Jack and Tyrione.

ffive said:
Ash can also actively work with Arthur to mind break and rape his daughter and then make her his sex pet with his magic drugs. Probably the most vile arc, makes all the cheating and drug dealing look like a walk in the park.
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One recent thing I've discovered is that if you follow all of Arthur's perversions you can get a lot of money out of him. :p
That way at least you avoid public humiliation for being a camgirl.
 
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