VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[SerHawkes]

They're appealing?

Don't get me wrong, being able to fuck either Alison or Louise is nice and the models are attractive but do people genuinely find romancing Louise or Alison a nice outcome for MC?

They're genuinely insufferable. Like truly unfuckingbearable.

Louise is a pain in the ass, she was a pain in the ass when I only had to deal with her with Lena, she was a pain in the ass during sexting and a pain in the ass after the Ian/Louise hookup. I don't see a world where her pathological jealousy is seen as endearing or appealing. She made me side with Stan for fucks' sake.

Alison is mainly annoying. The "nuh uh, wear a condom" spam gets very old very quickly, especially with her "cum in me but not for real its just a kink bro" which is bordering on manipulative. The "if you don't fuck me your best friend will" dating strat is insufferable. IIRC she calls you when getting spitroasted even when you refuse Jeremy's voyeur path. That's... Not appealing.

Louise would be appealing if she wanted retarded when it came to romance. Ian plows her and all of a sudden that equals they are dating? Girl needs to be sent to a medical stint and get her head checked.

Alison... ugh. She hooks up with Jeremy then goes on the whole 'I'm waiting for that SOMEONE' mantra... Like girl, take a hint. I'm not interested. Normally, her breeding kink would have a massive appeal for me. In this case however, not so much. The whole needing a condom then flip flopping to not and back again makes me want to throat punch her and leave by the road side. Either go on the fucking pill or take it like a champ.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

All of what you have said there is completely and utterly irrelevant.

Why?

Because Alison is HOT AS FUCK.

End of.

My brother in Islam, I'm responding to a guy who said Alison's CHARACTER TRAITS make her appealing.

Ain't nobody talked about her tiddies.

If that was the only ranking metric, I would agree.

 

[Thickgravy49]

My brother in Islam, I'm responding to a guy who said Alison's CHARACTER TRAITS make her appealing.

Ain't nobody talked about her tiddies.

If that was the only ranking metric, I would agree.

Indeed, Sir Dik.
Alison's 'tiddies' are mighty fine, for sure.

 

[Blurpee69]

Alison is mainly annoying. The "nuh uh, wear a condom" spam gets very old very quickly, especially with her "cum in me but not for real its just a kink bro" which is bordering on manipulative. The "if you don't fuck me your best friend will" dating strat is insufferable. IIRC she calls you when getting spitroasted even when you refuse Jeremy's voyeur path. That's... Not appealing.

Allison is only annoying with the "wear a condom" if you don't take it at the face value of her being cautious. It's been proven with Jeremy, an Ian that doesn't listen to her, and can probably be assumed Milo as well, that men cannot be trusted and it's not the men that face the consequences of carrying a child. The "cum in me" thing is only relevant if you don't wear the condoms and cum in her. Repeatedly.

There is a problem with a lot of fans on this forum, that one route defines a character on all their routes. Allison is one with condom / entrapment talk. Seymour is another. He only becomes a "simp" (which this storyline has still not progressed and can go still go in a dark path by the way) if Lena fully submits to him. In all other paths Seymour is still an antagonist to Lena, Ian, and the majority of the rest of the cast. He is still that looming threat he was setup to be. He can still be that on his supposed simp route, for all we know that can be further manipulation by him. It isn't he that holds Lena's hand, it her that holds his.

 

[WestSide23]

Allison can only blame herself. I would’ve generously banged her if she didn’t bring Cherry -the far superior choice- with her at the bar. What did she expect lol ? Then she automatically goes to Jeremy and lets him film (??). That’s not attractive…

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

Louise would be appealing if she wanted retarded when it came to romance. Ian plows her and all of a sudden that equals they are dating? Girl needs to be sent to a medical stint and get her head checked.

Alison... ugh. She hooks up with Jeremy then goes on the whole 'I'm waiting for that SOMEONE' mantra... Like girl, take a hint. I'm not interested. Normally, her breeding kink would have a massive appeal for me. In this case however, not so much. The whole needing a condom then flip flopping to not and back again makes me want to throat punch her and leave by the road side. Either go on the fucking pill or take it like a champ.

Yeah I kinda felt Eva wanted to squeeze in a Louise hookup badly and so she had to speedrun her relationship path with Ian. I get it, clingy can be sweet for certain guys cuz they feel desired but... There's clingy and there's weird.

As for Alison, I said what I said. She's annoying.

Allison is only annoying with the "wear a condom" if you don't take it at the face value of her being cautious. It's been proven with Jeremy, an Ian that doesn't listen to her, and can probably be assumed Milo as well, that men cannot be trusted and it's not the men that face the consequences of carrying a child. The "cum in me" thing is only relevant if you don't wear the condoms and cum in her. Repeatedly.

Pretty sure I had this convo with you specifically before but I'm too lazy to find my old response. But to repeat what I said briefly: no.

I will find "wear a condom" spam annoying even at face value because the character, by design, alternates between caution and a dangerously intense 'kink'.

When you fuck her raw first time but pull out, Alison makes you wear condoms repeatedly afterward still and Ian's de facto reaction is to find it annoying or bothersome. Let me repeat: The MC's default reaction, NOT MINE, is annoyance. When you're playing Chad Ian and accept her request, you lose Chad points. Just like the athletic variable, the Chad variable is purely a positive one as it basically only unlocks positive options without any drawback and you lose points accepting Alison's demands.

So nah, Alison is annoying by design. And boy did Eva do a good fucking job at that.

I'm not even gonna bother discuss your remaining 'arguments' cuz it reeks of some weird ass tone and framing. "Jeremy, Ian and probably Milo too!!!" lol. You even brought up Milo, the guy who only appears to get knocked the fuck out and made an assumption that he probably did some nutting in.

Be real.

 

[BlandChili]

I feel like people put too much emphasis on the necessity to have "relationships" before hooking up with someone. We have characters like Alison and Mike for casual relationships and characters like Holly and Ian/Lena for romantic ones for example.

Let Ian and Lena rail/get railed by someone from time to time without having to get to know their mother's maiden name or their favourite snack item first. Ian/Louise is kinda hot exactly because Louise comes across as kinda unhinged and desperate and Lena/Jack is hot because my girl allows herself to just get her brain blown out by a random hunk, I like having options to just be openly lustful too.

In that way I like that we have some variety and I don't mind getting a bit more of all these categories.

 

[stuffygames]

Seymour - He is always an antagoinist, even if Lena goes his route. His mayoral puppet will only allow him to keep aquiring property and raising rents, a theme that is mentioned by a number of other characters, mainly the drama with Stan/Lena/Louise. The whole thing is about what is better for a few lucky individuals or what is better for society as a whole. Seymour is JP Morgan, only less evil.

The City - Definitely Euro imo, I would even guess a fake English city. The whole property acquiring/building/monopolizing reminds me of the financial heyday of London when shady foreign backed developers built luxury apartment buildings for tax incentives and money laundering/hiding. The new buildings added value to the area and rents for current residents went up, even though most of the new buildings remained empty. This is Seymour all over.

If you go full Allison she will nag about the condom, if you make her wait she doesn't mention it, at least the first 2 or 3 times in the current release.

I'm not sure Eva listens to patrons. There's no proof.

Most of the posts in this thread are about how she ONLY listens to her patrons and does things in the story those posters don't like, or how their fav character doesn't get the exposure they want, while Stan gets a whole new arc. This is the first I've seen someone defending the idea that there is no proof that EK is influenced by the patrons. Idk either way, or care, just struck me as funny.

 

[Azzz_ops]

Since I'm new here and you, likebeingdik, seem to really appreciate evakiss's work because of your photo, I'd like to know who your favorite girl is for MC Ian?

 

[WestSide23]

Speaking of Jack, how likely is it that Ian gets to fuck Ashley ? I know so far she’s only been mentioned as Jess’ GF on one specific route, but seeing as Nat already has a gallery spot… Has to happen at some point, right ?

 

[stuffygames]

I feel like people put too much emphasis on the necessity to have "relationships" before hooking up with someone. *snip

Ian/Louise is kinda hot

High Five! Who doesn't like sluts??!!

Louise is a trap for Ian, I never liked her, not unhot, just unhinged. I have never done a playthrough where Ian wasn't with Lena and tried to hookup with Louise, is it possible? If not, pure trap, since there is no way to hide it from Lena, eventually crazy will do crazy.

 

[BlandChili]

High Five! Who doesn't like sluts??!!

I like having that option yeah! I like romance and casual relationships too, but allowing Lena to just go out and get picked up is something I hope to see a bit more of. The three new strangers coming to Billy's party has me hopeful that we'll get some fun sexual situations to pick between.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

Since I'm new here and you, likebeingdik, seem to really appreciate evakiss's work because of your photo, I'd like to know who your favorite girl is for MC Ian?

Emma and Cherry.

Emma has legit the best vibes (and booty).

Sad that she's a filthy homeless commie but that's just a detail in the grand scheme of things.

 

[SerHawkes]

Since I'm new here and you, likebeingdik, seem to really appreciate evakiss's work because of your photo, I'd like to know who your favorite girl is for MC Ian?

1. Ivy. Sadly EK is too skilled challenged for it to actually happen.
2. Emma. Solid booty and fun for real romance and casual.

 

[jspectre88]

When you choose experimenting/open relationship for Ian/Lena in chapter 9 is it normal that you can't sleep with anyone else, because that feels like it defeats the purpose. Basically, I was being a slut with both of them, and they both came clean to doing a lot of experimenting while dating, and then decided to keep just experimenting as a couple, but the 3some with Alison got cancelled, I can't have sex with Emma in chapter 10, and they both whine about cheating on the other.

 

[ffive]

When you choose experimenting/open relationship for Ian/Lena in chapter 9 is it normal that you can't sleep with anyone else, because that feels like it defeats the purpose.

The idea is for them to experiment together so that's not really a permit for either of them to fuck some third party on their own. It's not an open relationship. The "experimenting together" starts after a while with potential threesome with Louise and then maybe Emma down the road.

In the meantime if Lena cheats on Ian at the club and he finds out about it through Jeremy, this creates a possibility to switch to actual open relationship during discussion in Ch.13 at Perry's beach house.

 

[mehGusta]

I like having that option yeah! I like romance and casual relationships too, but allowing Lena to just go out and get picked up is something I hope to see a bit more of. The three new strangers coming to Billy's party has me hopeful that we'll get some fun sexual situations to pick between.

though i may have complained that lena has no real romance options besides ian and holly (which are kind of a package deal and ian is also the other playable character of the game, making them both quite obvious exceptions), i do enjoy lena having random hookups!

however i would hope ian gets some too! right now he is a bit too much of a harem-maker typical protagonist who has to have a romance path for each girl.

 

[ffive]

however i would hope ian gets some too! right now he is a bit too much of a harem-maker typical protagonist who has to have a romance path for each girl.

Well, a lot of these romantic options are mutually exclusive so it's far from harem making. And while pretty much each girl has a romance option, in all of these cases that's all it is, an option. Ian can always make it instead just casual arrangement, from simple hookup to some sort of FWB deal.

 

[Turret]

Emma and Cherry.

Emma has legit the best vibes (and booty).

Sad that she's a filthy homeless commie but that's just a detail in the grand scheme of things.

Best LI for Ian: Holly, Lena and Alison, honorably mentioned Cherry and a Gillian recognising she made a big mistake.

Holly, no matter her version, clearly likes Ian for being himself, shares his passion for writing, even wild Holly is a rather sweet, nice and intelligent young woman. Very good fit.
Lena depends on how we play her, can be a great match for Ian, a really good friend or just a fuckbuddy. As said, depends on the playstyle.
Alison, like Holly, is one of the few LIs liking Ian for being himself. Both had school crushes on each other, but never acted on it. Goes to Jeremy only if Ian does not see her visibly swung fence post with "I wanna be with you in a relationship" on it and even if she is with Jeremy, one move by Ian and Jeremy is history.(Unless Ian and her like threesomes)
Cherry seems to be a good LI, but as a side character is rarely seen.
Gillian and a reconciliation has to be seen in future chapters if an option, but what we saw so far hints strongly towards Gillian being aware having made a big mistake with leaving Ian.

Worst LI for Ian: Louise, Cindy, Emma

Louise has extreme character issues, Stan in comparison is an angel as a flat sharer. Needs therapy, her mental stuff is so severe.
Emma and Perry deserve each other, Ian is simply a "fuckbuddy plus" for her. It is very clear Ian is just a substitute. Something that taints her unrepairable for me is, I know some activists in her mold and can only say: No, thank you!
Cindy mainly popular due to her looks, is/was Wade´s girlfriend. Is high maintainance and would prefer Wade if he get´s his groove back.

 

[stuffygames]

When you choose experimenting/open relationship for Ian/Lena in chapter 9 is it normal that you can't sleep with anyone else, because that feels like it defeats the purpose.

This is one of the plot descisions that confuses me. Maybe the meaning of "open relationship" is different for some, and "experimenting together" would be fine, if there were more than one option after this descision. After the beach, they are full romance, possibly thruple (current release), so very few experimenting options at all.

I guess the experimenting 'should' include them both, but in the coding and choices (mby) it's named open relationship, possibly the source of my confusion. The underlying dialog as I can remember it is something along the lines of keeping things the same, but being in a relationship, and if that were true they have both been whoring around if you take all options, but continuing that is not entirely possible, esp for Ian. The over dramatics about the cheating crisis and lack of choices at the beach is annoying to me. They both acted like horndogs, then they get all hurt that it might have continued, weak story point for me.