VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[HugoLivremore]

Sterling is childish and will not fit as an MC. Secondary or tertiary in ORS, highly likely. Most MCs are already planned out but Ian is how you want him to be.

how about marcos from family home 2
MC from Summertime Saga
Stefan Salvatore from Vampire Diaries
or maybe Sasuke fron Naruto

 

[varpep]

I think it's a better story with Ian as it is now. Also different to business as usual for most games on this site. But I think Ian would be a more popular MC just making him taller and with a dick as big as Axel's. You can keep everything else the same and a lot of people would like the game better.



It's a pretty common misassumption that men cheat because the other girl is hotter or because his partner doesn't offer him enough sex/attention. In most cases, men cheat because they can, just to fuck a different girl. It doesn't matter a lot if they have waiting at home a supermodel or a 5. I think it's some kind of biological urge, a mix between the excitement of "hunting" a new girl and wanting to impregnate as many women as possible. Most other rationalizations after the fact are just that or victim blaming to make ourselves feel better.

Exactly. Cheaters are gonna cheat. If Hale Berry and Angelina Jolie could get cheated on in their prime, no one is safe. Also you said something really interesting I've heard before. About how male's reproductive strategy was to spread their seed far and wide to ensure the survival of their genes in pre-historic times. Where as women benefited from having a single partner that protected her and her offsprings so they could survive till adulthood. Well we aren't animals anymore so Men who use this as an excuse are grade A bullshitters

 

[varpep]

how about marcos from family home 2
MC from Summertime Saga
Stefan Salvatore from Vampire Diaries
or maybe Sasuke fron Naruto

Bruh Sasuke is gay for Naruto. He's a tsundere. He loves it when Naruto chases after him

 

[HugoLivremore]

Bruh Sasuke is gay for Naruto. He's a tsundere. He loves it when Naruto chases after him

and stefan would make axel go away and chose lena at some point

 

[Socrambus]

Exactly. Cheaters are gonna cheat. If Hale Berry and Angelina Jolie could get cheated on in their prime, no one is safe. Also you said something really interesting I've heard before. About how male's reproductive strategy was to spread their seed far and wide to ensure the survival of their genes in pre-historic times. Where as women benefited from having a single partner that protected her and her offsprings so they could survive till adulthood. Well we aren't animals anymore so Men who use this as an excuse are grade A bullshitters

I didn't mean it as an excuse, just as my explanation for it. We also have aggressive instincts and that doesn't make beating someone up okay. I confess that women's reasoning for cheating is pretty much a mystery to me. It seems way more complex and varied compared to men's.

 

[OWSam000]

Non Seymour path - Ashley's fiancé.

Seymour's path - Dave's fiancé. You get to meet rich Arthur. This Arthur only wins the lottery if Ashley was with him, so I am pretty sure we'll see corrupted Ashley on Seymour's path.

TLDR - Lena dictates good Jess's fiancé.

In my good Jess and non-seymour path, jess's fiancé is dave instead of ashley in this update. Seem like a bug/error.

 

[Gicoo]

I confess that women's reasoning for cheating is pretty much a mystery to me.

Power trip and relishing to get the attention of multiple/other partners? Challenge and thrill of seducing someone? Fear of "missing out" when trapped in a marriage with a partner becoming more and more dull (but also not losing that safety, hence she stays)?

There are endless reasons for cheating. Read the classic Madame Bovary in particular for an example of a woman tired of her dull bored life.


While cheating doesn't equate breaking up, it may co-relate, since cheating can happen from the initial desire to break up (but not following through with it because its a risk and loss of safety, see Cindy). It's questionable if humans are made for long lasting relationships until death, when switching a partner may be more beneficial for your lifestyle. Meaning nowadays, when you first country people have more freedom in career, education, religion, residence. In the past, you were more often stuck in one place, with one job, one partner, one purpose.

 

[Scarlet42]

Many characters from the first game started appearing in the second.
But despite her name being mentioned, we still haven't seen Ashley.
What could be the reason for this?

I'd become a very famous model thanks to the fame of that idiot Tyrone, and I was in a relationship with Jess.
It would be great to see a continuation of that in this game...

 

[BlandChili]

Many characters from the first game started appearing in the second.
But despite her name being mentioned, we still haven't seen Ashley.
What could be the reason for this?

I'd become a very famous model thanks to the fame of that idiot Tyrone, and I was in a relationship with Jess.
It would be great to see a continuation of that in this game...

Well Ash can also be a club-dancer, work in an office, become a porn actress, be a gang leader or die - amongst other outcomes - so the assumption is that she won't appear because Eva couldn't realistically account for all her different states.

 

[aFairReviewer]

Many characters from the first game started appearing in the second.
But despite her name being mentioned, we still haven't seen Ashley.

I didn't catch this. When did this happen?

 

[Blurpee69]

Many characters from the first game started appearing in the second.
But despite her name being mentioned, we still haven't seen Ashley.
What could be the reason for this?

I'd become a very famous model thanks to the fame of that idiot Tyrone, and I was in a relationship with Jess.
It would be great to see a continuation of that in this game...

Because Ashley was the main character and had a lot of different outcomes. You said yourself that Ash became a famous model and was in a relationship with Jess. I preferred my Ash to be with a redeemed Jack, but very open to threesomes with him. Jess with Dave, Eva single but liberated. That's probably much different than yours, which is probably much different from ilikbeingadik's which is much different from blandchili's.

If we had seen Ash in chapter 1 then she suddenly has a canonized story, which EK seemingly wants to avoid. Whereas by not seeing her, but letting certain actions taken by Lena, or Ian, fleshes out multiple paths for Ash. Though I do wish we had some more branches for Ash at the moment, dating Eva or Jack or marketing job vs influencer for example, what we have now is fine and not really worth having her ever make a full appearance in game.

 

[Blurpee69]

I didn't catch this. When did this happen?

Nat, Jess, Jack, the Landwhale, Mark, and Arthur have all made appearances in game and all came from GGGB. Ash and Dave have both been mentioned but not yet seen. Notably Eva, Eric, and Tyrone have not been mentioned or seen. A girl that looks like Iris was in one of the interracial porn videos Lena could look up, but it's not been confirmed that it was her. The porn video Ian can watch in the begining of the game has a model that Looks like Ash, but was confirmed to not be her by EK.

I'd be shocked if we ever see the likes of Doug, Ethan, Enrico, Ryan, Monica, or Wilson. Although doubtful, there is a very small possiblity that Jacob or Jolene can make apperances. Jacob for potential additional BBC material and Jolene can be tied to Tyrone still if Tyrone makes an appearance.

 

[Gicoo]

Nat, Jess, Jack, the Landwhale, Mark, and Arthur have all made appearances in game and all came from GGGB. Ash and Dave have both been mentioned but not yet seen. Notably Eva, Eric, and Tyrone have not been mentioned or seen. A girl that looks like Iris was in one of the interracial porn videos Lena could look up, but it's not been confirmed that it was her. The porn video Ian can watch in the begining of the game has a model that Looks like Ash, but was confirmed to not be her by EK.

I'd be shocked if we ever see the likes of Doug, Ethan, Enrico, Ryan, Monica, or Wilson. Although doubtful, there is a very small possiblity that Jacob or Jolene can make apperances. Jacob for potential additional BBC material and Jolene can be tied to Tyrone still if Tyrone makes an appearance.

Who was Monica?

 

[DaLuke2]

Power trip and relishing to get the attention of multiple/other partners? Challenge and thrill of seducing someone? Fear of "missing out" when trapped in a marriage with a partner becoming more and more dull (but also not losing that safety, hence she stays)?

There are endless reasons for cheating. Read the classic Madame Bovary in particular for an example of a woman tired of her dull bored life.


While cheating doesn't equate breaking up, it may co-relate, since cheating can happen from the initial desire to break up (but not following through with it because its a risk and loss of safety, see Cindy). It's questionable if humans are made for long lasting relationships until death, when switching a partner may be more beneficial for your lifestyle. Meaning nowadays, when you first country people have more freedom in career, education, religion, residence. In the past, you were more often stuck in one place, with one job, one partner, one purpose.

You've good taste in literature.

 

[Blurpee69]

Who was Monica?

Monica was Ash's mother.

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

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Stan will become her new sugar daddy, and they're already living together so it's all gucci.

 

[yuvce]

It has potential for much hilarity, if nothing else. Imagine playing as Axel and trying to win back your ex, but if you make bad choices then Lena would rather fuck the likes of Robert and Ian.

Ian's the upgrade.

Axel fans - cry about it.

 

[mehGusta]

Out of curiosity, why in the quiet almighty fuck would you want to play as Axel? Genuine question.

How do you approach the male POV when you play ORS and what would make you want having Axel over Ian (or any other potential male character for that matter) as your male MC?

This also makes me think of something else... Why ain't nobody tryna play as Alison, Emma or any other female character?

There's some cheap ass AI slop knockoff where you play as Cindy... So is the standard for great MCs just "look as conventionally hot as physically possible"?

"look as conventionally hot as physically possible" partially correct.
i think i've said it before that i don't like to play as a self-insert, especially since the illusion is destroyed as soon as the character says something i would never say in the given situation or since most of the time characters who are supposedly blank slates to relate to i see as an insult to me as if the game is telling me i'm bland myself, i much rather play a defined character.
for example if you know or have played both mass effect and mass effect andromeda, you would think that the creation of your MC should be so variable that exchanging shepard with ryder should make no difference? however that is no the case. regardless of how you play each game, the MC has a scope of reactions and characteristics associated with the person themselves. that alone is already defined by the limited options you can respond in conversations. no surprise there as you'd need a near infinite amount of options to cover every possible character type.

so yeah of course i rather have a character who is not a loser.
don't get me wrong a "zero to hero" kind of story is interesting in it's own right. but a full game as loser? no thanks!

axel as himself wouldn't work quite well in my eyes, because he is too set in his psycho-boyfriend theme. but physically? hell yeah i would like to play him as MMC!

and yeah i think you could create a game revolving around a character like alison, emma, holly, ivy, etc. and even as minerva. you'd just have to know what you want the story to be about.
the same things that make them interesting as NPCs can be used to make them MCs.
tl;dr boring characters are boring.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

most of the time characters who are supposedly blank slates to relate to i see as an insult to me as if the game is telling me i'm bland myself

If relating to a blank slate is insulting to you, you ain't got your priorities straight.

Jokes aside, I do feel yall are missing the point of blank slate characters. Blank slates allow great variability in gameplay since most case scenarios can be reasonably expected without too much mental gymnastics. That's about it.

Blank slates are just prisms, you get to pick the specific color that comes out of it.

so yeah of course i rather have a character who is not a loser.

don't get me wrong a "zero to hero" kind of story is interesting in it's own right. but a full game as loser? no thanks!

Why would it matter to you to play a loser or not? After all, you said yourself you don't relate nor self-insert as MCs. A story recounted from the side of the loser can be interesting. Loser != boring, it just means you ain't won.

axel as himself wouldn't work quite well in my eyes, because he is too set in his psycho-boyfriend theme.

Again, why would it matter to you if Axel is 'too set in his psycho-boyfriend theme'? The story would be just told from his POV. It certainly wouldn't be boring, would it? If you don't need to relate to a MC to play the game you should, in theory, enjoy playing as Axel in all of his psycho-boyfriend glory.

but physically? hell yeah i would like to play him as MMC!

Again, why would it matter to have Axel as MC? You already get scenes with him as an NPC, if you don't relate nor self-insert then you could just have more scenes in-game with NPC Axel and it'd be just as enjoyable wouldn't it?

and yeah i think you could create a game revolving around a character like alison, emma, holly, ivy, etc. and even as minerva. you'd just have to know what you want the story to be about.
the same things that make them interesting as NPCs can be used to make them MCs.

You could make an MC out your school janitor if that's the standard you set. Case in point, why ain't nobody made no game about your school janitor yet?

 

[Yoheijin]

It's a pretty common misassumption that men cheat because the other girl is hotter or because his partner doesn't offer him enough sex/attention. In most cases, men cheat because they can, just to fuck a different girl.

I agree with you in bf-gf relationship but bit different in marrital relationship, in asia men going to cheat mostly because of lack of sex, anyway back to topic i think you are going too far lol. In this game from the start i will never go for cheat route except to open "forgive" sceene + ian x alison 2nd date to keep alison in track/block jeremy plaything + lena x mike to open some exiting sceenes. But if the MC is Axel, lena x mike is not needed anymore, "forgive" sceenes is not needed too, axel no need that just to make lena cum like water spring....