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jduk

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My brother in the light EVERYONE is dangerous for Ian. He can NOT get a break. The only girl that can possibly NOT fuck him over is Lena (if you play her that way). I love it. He is SO screwed.
I would say Holly, but last update she got used like a cocksleeve by that Mark guy because Lena said her lol, so not even Holly. I think if you are after Alison since day one, Allison might be the best choice. But you aren't after her right at the start, Jeremy will pound her no doubt
 
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SerHawkes

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I made Ian relatable by making him alone with no girls :,)
Suffer alone in your misery then.


More like going behind Ian for Axel. We know Axel uses his job to gain personal favor and he gave the most important position to Cindy. If we follow the crumbs Ivy gave us, he promised that position to Ivy exchange for something, I can speculate it was related to Lena. As we know how obsessed he is, he would not give that opportunity for nothing and first thing Cindy is asked from Ian is to break up with Lena but not Cherry or someone else. Ivy also mentioned a rumor about Axel and Cindy dating. I know it is a bit stretch but feels something off about whole Ian, Lena, Ivy, Axel and Cindy relationship. So more than Alison-Lite but still includes that too. :cautious:
I doubt it. As long as Cinders is happy with Ian and Ian makes her happy and supports her through the break up she will likely stay loyal to Ian. Sure, I see Axel trying things, and being a scum about it, but again, as long as Ian keeps her happy, she'll be with Ian no matter what.
 

jduk

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Ivy is a known liar and shit stirrer. Taking anything she says at face value is laughable. There's no way she isn't trying to manipulate ian and take advantage of him for her own benefit in some manner.
Why you say Ivy is a liar? I think she's super Street smart and can get shit done and mess you up but i don't know about liar.
 

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Ok, that was pretty good even though it was just a small taste for Stan the pimp. Now I'm wondering if Lena will eventually be able to pull together a Stan/Lena/Louise party, maybe after a few drinks. I envision Stan watching while she dominates Louise.. "are you just going to stand there, or are you going to join us?" That double beej would be too sweet! :devilish:
 
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My brother in the light EVERYONE is dangerous for Ian. He can NOT get a break. The only girl that can possibly NOT fuck him over is Lena (if you play her that way). I love it. He is SO screwed.
This is probably the VN I played the most and I can tell you one thing: not even Holly can be trusted after chapter 11...
The only girl faithful to Ian since the beginning is Alison but that requires you to prioritize her whenever the choices appear, otherwise she will be fucked by Jeremy/Billy.

Chery also appears to be wife material, but only if you ignore her past with Axel.
 

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As we know how obsessed he is, he would not give that opportunity for nothing and first thing Cindy is asked from Ian is to break up with Lena but not Cherry or someone else.
Cindy in that scene can inquire about Lena and/or Alison. I'd speculate this is because these two are Ian's relationships she's potentially aware of, rather than anything Axel related.
 

SerHawkes

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Does Alison always go blonde in ch 11 or does she get to keep her auburn hair?
If you conquested her without love, or let her have the threesome with Jeremy OR weren't involved in her in any way and didn't dick this clears as fuck Yandere she goes blonde. Which really should have been an option before hand.
 

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Part II thoughts on Chapter 11 after playing a few more routes:

- The Lena/Ian/Louise threesome was nice. Was hoping there'd be a more dominant version between Lena and Louise where Ian can handle Louise's leash before Lena breaks out the double dong, to give Ian a show, but that would probably be way too intense for a first threesome encounter and may come later, or maybe Stan will get the chance to handle Louise's leash in the future, which would be really satisfying, based on Louise's shitty behavior towards him.

- The more nuanced teasing/loving Lena/Ian route was really well handled now, even allowing them to switch positions of dominance, plus it was written with more care, showing it was just kinky play & experimenting between an emotionally healthy couple. 1. Lena didn't automatically turn into super-bitch after a little teasing. 2. The user isn't locked into an extreme situation and can choose just light play, or even turn the tables a bit on who has the assertive role. 3. The writing took into account the situation where Lena and Ian have been a loving couple from the start [An Ian that's not hitting every pussy in sight and a Lena that's not a cock carousel]. She shows actual appropriate concern when he feels awkward about the play, as a couple who care for each other naturally would. Impressive & believable. Ethical slut route achieved. I haven't actually ever seen another game handle it this well. Curious what BloodyMares thoughts are on those changes.

My opinion of the chapter has gone up further the more routes I play on it. Not perfect (which isn't possible with such an expansive game with so few resources) but impressive. The Ivy exposition dump is the only glaringly awkward part so far for me, aside from the obvious bugs that will surely get fixed.
 
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If you conquested her without love, or let her have the threesome with Jeremy OR weren't involved in her in any way and didn't dick this clears as fuck Yandere she goes blonde. Which really should have been an option before hand.
It feels like Alison has her own version of GGGB going on when she's not on the screen, and she's destined for the bad path unless Ian saves her with (loving) dick.
 

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I felt really weird about Alison knowing that Jeremy had been sending Ian her nudes all this time. On one hand her propositioning that way really creeped me out but on the other, who am I to judge since I have been asking for more porn vids with her... :HideThePain: I also feel bad for her cuz I kinda feel like she's been "whoring" herself out just because she wanetd Ian to look at her and maybe sleep with her afterwards.
 

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I felt really weird about Alison knowing that Jeremy had been sending Ian her nudes all this time. On one hand her propositioning that way really creeped me out but on the other, who am I to judge since I have been asking for more porn vids with her... :HideThePain: I also feel bad for her cuz I kinda feel like she's been "whoring" herself out just because she wanetd Ian to look at her and maybe sleep with her afterwards.
This friend-of-a-friend girl I had literally met twice at that point cut her hair short the very next day since I'd mentioned on our second meeting that I liked short hair. [It didn't work]. Alison actually seems like a less extreme version of that, as strange as it sounds. 1. She likes the dick and was going to get it anyway. 2. She's known Ian for a very long time as friends and has obviously had her sights on him for quite a while. 3. Kind of an okay match, really.. I mean perv vs perv, right? She probably gets some kinky pleasure in turning him on, too. Definitely a bit extreme/obsessive under any circumstances, but it kind of works here. Standard warning signs in most circumstances? Sure. But Ian's known her long enough at least to know she's not a total psycho.

I feel a lot worse about the situation if you're going out with Lena or another girl and turn Alison down at that point. I mean, that's gotta hurt. Good enough to jack to like a porn-star, but not to date. That could be soul-crushing.
 
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Which book proposals did you guys approve? Im thinking the Mummy one would be good since it IS commercially viable, and also the historical romance. Am I overthinking this lmao.
 
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