dolfe67

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It's the dialogue differences in scenes. In chapter 10 no-sex route did not have Lena talking about other people's dicks, while the cuck route did. Then in chapter 11 the two routes merged during the footjob scene. So now even though Ian had previously not shown interest in Lena's sexual exploits he is forced to choose to listen to how some dude pissed on her and now in the epilogue he is asking about the people in the club hitting on her. Again no sex route player that didn't choose to ask about "one of the best dicks?" are still forced into the cuck route.
If you want a no-sex route, you'll have to accept Ian being a cuck, deal with it :4Head:
 

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He theoretically can, it was just that Emma never caught his eye and its Ians recommendation that spurs him to ask her. And he succeeds.
Also true. Emma is very easy going and DTF girls, she don't mind good dicking by a friend. But knowing how much he loves hitting on girls, he could have done it on his own a long time ago.
 

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Jeremy might not be the best player, but he has some game. Ian being a MC he has the possibility to cockblock him though
 
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mommysboiii

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That's what I've been saying from the start, Ivy is chaotic evil, She'll gladly stab you in the back then convince you she's on your side just for her own amusement.
A manipulative snake, that's just who she is.
Side note: It's also fine if you like that type of person, I'm not judging
true ivy is true chaotic evil and I love it will be interesting wwith cindy/ivy conflict

she 100% is but people think ivy is a virgin ,ivy is such a good cheracter give ivy ian vanilla romance mimimi
 

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I won’t call him a rat, for example, he refuses Lena BJ if Ian/Lena = love, saying that he cannot do this to a friend. But it’s impossible to call him a tough guy.
He puts some resistance but it doesn't take much to convince him to forget the bro code:

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l "Come on... That's not fair. We're playing a game here..."
v "Lena can't have her share of the prize money unless you cooperate!"
j "But..."
l "It's just a game. Come on, don't worry."
$ fjeremy = "smile"
j "Alright, if that's how you see it..."
$ fjeremy = "flirt"
j "All yours
And doesn't tell Ian afterwards, resisting Lena succesfully or not. That's not ok for a friend in my books. If he doesn't tell Ian the Marcel stuff after the epilogue, he would be the worst bro ever.

Also, he goes after Allison even if Ian explicity tells him it's not ok to do so.

It's fine for Lena, but gossiping with Ian behind Jeremy's back like that, it's a bitch move.
Ian can do that only after just telling to his face he's a snake. It's not a bitch move. A bitch move is what Seymour does going behind Lena's back to fuck up all her money incomes while he's trying to present a reasonable attitude to her face.
 

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jeremy is still on top of the food chain :WeSmart:
Not the top. Jack, Axel, Mike and Chad Ian trash him. He is good enough to get decent, though subpar girls like Louise, Alison and Emma, and he has a low, but possible chance to get the top girls like Ivy and Lena with extra effort/luck/connections.
 
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Wouldn't there be an indication that Mark is taken? The way Ivy suggests Holly to go after him seems that he is a single, available guy. Why would Ivy suggest a man in relationship as a first partner for Holly?
Maybe he meant Mike, or Marcel, or Mancy.

Too many M names.
lol true but... no, I actually meant him. I should have specified though.

If you look at the default relationship values to start the game, the base minimum on both Lena´s and Ian´s side, towards any character they don´t know, or the ones they do know but don´t particularly like is 3.
Ian-Robert/Axel/Minerva or Lena-Cindy/Gillian/Stan for example. Very few exceptions like Lena/Perry = 5.

All characters within their respective friend group are at 5 or 6 and there are no characters at all with a value of 1 or 2.

However there are exactly 2 characters on each side with a value of 0.
For Lena that´s Axel and Cherry. For Ian it´s Gillian and ... yes, Mark.

As I said initially this could as well mean nothing and just be a coincidence. I don´t know.

In-game explanation? Hmn.... According to Ivy he is "some guy" she knows, probably from the club when he tried hitting on her? (topless pic) It´s highly likely he is not a close friend and she does not actually know anything about his personal life (or he could have lied)? MAybe I missed something in the dialogue that suggests otherwise.

Also, at this point Gillian being Mike´s GF would just be too obvious and boring :ROFLMAO:
 

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He puts some resistance but it doesn't take much to convince him to forget the bro code:

Python:
l "Come on... That's not fair. We're playing a game here..."
v "Lena can't have her share of the prize money unless you cooperate!"
j "But..."
l "It's just a game. Come on, don't worry."
$ fjeremy = "smile"
j "Alright, if that's how you see it..."
$ fjeremy = "flirt"
j "All yours
And doesn't tell Ian afterwards, resisting Lena succesfully or not. That's not ok for a friend in my books. If he doesn't tell Ian the Marcel stuff after the epilogue, he would be the worst bro ever.

Also, he goes after Allison even if Ian explicity tells him it's not ok to do so.
This didn't happen on my Ian/Lena. I mean there was no option to convince Jeremy.
She probably wasn't spoiled enough because all she did was moderate Stalkfap, photo shoots and one hook up with Mike.

Okay, then Jeremy is Ratremy.
 

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Ian can do that only after just telling to his face he's a snake. It's not a bitch move. A bitch move is what Seymour does going behind Lena's back to fuck up all her money incomes while he's trying to present a reasonable attitude to her face.
Nah, Thats just business.
Seymour is a great businessman and the true "good guy" in this game, the way he is trying to help Lena and Ian is very decent of him.
 

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Jeremy THE BULL Johnson is a great character and im tired of pretending hes not.
"B-B-BUT HE HAS NO GAME WAAAAAAAAH"
Not only he already fucked half of the female cast,he fucked Ivy before Ian:KEK:
 
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Socrambus

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Nah, Thats just business.
Seymour is a great businessman and the true "good guy" in this game, the way he is trying to help Lena and Ian is very decent of him.
A bitch business move. If he's so great, he shouldn't have any problems to convince a silly inferior girl like Lena of the merits of such a generous plan just using his greatness and intellectual superiority.

This didn't happen on my Ian/Lena. I mean there was no option to convince Jeremy.
She probably wasn't spoiled enough because all she did was moderate Stalkfap, photo shoots and one hook up with Mike.

Okay, then Jeremy is Ratremy.
Lena just needs to have a fetish for big cocks.
 
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A bitch business move. If he's so great, he shouldn't have any problems to convince a silly inferior girl like Lena of the merits of such a generous plan just using his greatness and intellectual superiority.
You know how these plebs be, sometimes they dont understand whats good for them and they need a nudge in the right direction.
 
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