Cucks usually get off on the humiliation/jealousy of watching or knowing their partner is fucking other people. People will often say that someone who is cheating, is cucking their partner. And that's because the archaic form of the word 'cuckold' referred to someone who was cheated on. But usually these days to be cucked means something entirely different, because the cuck is most often a willing participant in the play. In other words, they get pleasure from being cheated on, though in reality it's not actually cheating, because its been mutually agreed upon.
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I think Ian is even worse than Jeremy. Jeremy is weak-willed when it comes to women, he thinks so much with his dick, it's pretty hard for him to resist. But even so, Lena has to intentionally provoke him on several occasions, before he finally gives in. Whereas Ian is the one pursuing Cindy. If he doesn't put himself in the right place at the right time, nothing happens between them. He decides to cheat with Cindy, and makes it happen. Ian is supposedly a sensible, strong-minded individual, in many ways the opposite of Jeremy. And yet he deliberately pursues Cindy, knowing full well that it's probably going to destroy his friendship with Wade and possibly Perry as well
Both Wade and Cindy are long time friends of Ian. He knows that he's driving a wedge between two people who trust him a lot. Wade may be the architect of his own problems with Cindy, but Ian ruthlessly exploits that, to get his way with Cindy. Contrast that with Jeremy's relatively unsuspecting flirtation with Lena, not fully realising where Lena is leading him, until she's basically naked in front of him and he gives into his lust. Afterwards he's riven with guilt, and probably would have owned up to Ian immediately, if Lena hadn't used her guile to persuade him not to.
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While I do agree with Jeremy being weak-minded, with Ian, it's you who makes those choices. You, the player. Ian's personality isn't hardcoded. He's whatever you want him to be. It's the player who can choose to make him a cheater, a cuck, a strong-minded individual, or whatever. It's all you. You don't have to make him a scumbag. I don't think it's fair to assess Ian and Lena in the same way as all other characters because with Ian and Lena, we have control but with the others we don't.
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Cindy's path is the furthest from Ian's base personality tho. Given his past experiences and the usual choices given, the path isn't really Ian.
That's correct. But since the original posts specifically referred to instances where both Ian and Jeremy betray their friends, I think it's perfectly fair. Obviously, if you choose for Ian not to betray Wade, then that's a different matter. But the original posts did relate to Ian betraying Wade, so the other choice you refer to is pretty much irrelevant in this instance.
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I don't think it's necessarily true, not any more than saying Lena who sleeps with Mike isn't really Lena. Just because Ian was cheated on and knows what it feels like doesn't mean he's guaranteed to have enough restraint not to fall for Cindy after knowing her for quite a few years. Cindy's path doesn't have to be about Ian cynically seducing his friend's girlfriend, it can be very much about him gradually getting closer to her out of simple sympathy/attraction, until he finds himself unable to pull away.
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First of all, I NEVER support cheating as I believe both person involved in relationship should communicate and end things if are done with eachother rather than cheating unless it is their kink/fetish(just mentioning so you don't think I support cheating or base a "false narrative" of me).
Now coming to the difference between Ian and Jeremy,
Are you sure HE(Ian) is driving wedge between them!
In case of Ian WadexCindy are already on the verge of breakup while in Jeremy's case he knew that Ian is in love with Lena and is looking forward to go to next stage of there relationship. You can see Wade is not changing his ways to keep Cindy and is doing even worse for himself and the path he is choosing is most risky and TIME COMSUMING.
Another thing IMO none of them(Ian or Jeremy) is less than the other in terms of cheating whether they are weak-willed potato potayto or strong-willed opportunistic. All three of them are Bros together and are from high school IIRC. So IMO saying that one is better/worse than the other is absurd idea to begin with. There is no comparison. CHEATING IS CHEATING! BETRAYEL IS BETRAYEL! Period!
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Which thread would you be in and which thread would I be in?
Will we still be in the same thread?
The face palm man, which thread would he be in?
Could there be a serious thread of sexual fetishes and fantasies?
Could there be a thread to talk bad about Axel/Axelia?
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I would be in the nonserious thread; you would be in both. You would be in the serious one due to your views on Axel.Which thread would you be in and which thread would I be in?
Will we still be in the same thread?
The face palm man, which thread would he be in?
Could there be a serious thread of sexual fetishes and fantasies?
Could there be a thread to talk bad about Axel/Axelia?
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That's great!!!, the important thing is that we would be in the same thread posting and post thread serious maybe I can win a face palm from the face palm man, right?
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Deepest and most abject and tearful apologies....but you are in denial about your whereabouts.
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Andrea9999
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*nod* Look back and see all the long winded moralizing posts...about a porn game!!
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Maybe I'll ask some of my friends to help me pervert the thread, maybe I can ask DIRTY FILTHY RAT and Joshy92 for help, how much would I change the thread?
I disagree i think there's enough room in this thread for people that want to have serious discussions and those that just wanna shitpost so long as we all respect each others opinions.
I think the most hard done to person in this game is Robert. He's nowhere near as bad, as a lot of people make him out to be. He genuinely wants to be Lena's boyfriend, and he pretty much worships the ground she walks on. He just has this one issue with Perry early on, which Ian takes exception to. But to be fair, Perry often does some pretty daft stuff, and was just as drunk as Robert was at the time, and equally at fault. People who are drunk often do daft things, but it doesn't make them into bad people. Plus that was a pretty bad evening for Robert, having just been beaten up by Axel, after he defended Lena.
Ian totally overreacts and literally labels Robert as scum, on the basis of one poor drunken decision.
Ian totally overreacts and literally labels Robert as scum, on the basis of one poor drunken decision.
You can call it what you want, but Ian exploits the situation to his advantage. We know in hindsight that Wade and Cindy are going to split up. But Ian doesn't know that. He suspects things are not going well between them, but he can't know that they wouldn't eventually work it out. But he can and does make sure that they dont. There's no way you can deny, that Ian doesn't betray his best friend, because he does. The main difference between Ian and Jeremy, is that Ian ultimately wants to split Wade and Cindy up, so he can have Cindy all to himself. Jeremy on the other hand, just wants a bit of fun. He's not trying to separate Ian and Lena, even if he believes their relationship is doomed.First of all, I NEVER support cheating as I believe both person involved in relationship should communicate and end things if are done with eachother rather than cheating unless it is their kink/fetish(just mentioning so you don't think I support cheating or base a "false narrative" of me).
Now coming to the difference between Ian and Jeremy,
Are you sure HE(Ian) is driving wedge between them!
In case of Ian WadexCindy are already on the verge of breakup while in Jeremy's case he knew that Ian is in love with Lena and is looking forward to go to next stage of there relationship. You can see Wade is not changing his ways to keep Cindy and is doing even worse for himself and the path he is choosing is most risky and TIME COMSUMING.
Another thing IMO none of them(Ian or Jeremy) is less than the other in terms of cheating whether they are weak-willed potato potayto or strong-willed opportunistic. All three of them are Bros together and are from high school IIRC. So IMO saying that one is better/worse than the other is absurd idea to begin with. There is no comparison. CHEATING IS CHEATING! BETRAYEL IS BETRAYEL! Period!
The original posts that I was responding to, DID suggest that Jeremy's betrayal with Lena, was much worse than Ian's with Cindy. I was simply pointing out why I believed that was untrue. Personally, I don't believe Jeremy intentionally sets out to betray Ian. He's pretty much led there by Lena, until his weakness for pussy, undermines his better nature. Surely, you can see that Lena instigates everything. And without that, Jeremy would never have succumbed. Is Jeremy weak? Yes he is. But does he intentionally set out to betray his best friend? No he categorically doesn't. You can't say the same for Ian, with Cindy. He knows exactly what he's doing. Like Lena he's the instigator. He pursues Cindy, when she's at her weakest, after her row with Wade at the club. He knows this is his chance. And he ruthlessly takes it.
And for your information, I don't support cheating either. I just like playing games that involve cheating. You do recognise, that there's a major difference, between actually doing something and playing fantasy games involving it instead? I've killed literally millions of people in fantasy games, but so far nobody in real life.
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