VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

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Blurpee69 said:
I thought the deal Ivy made with Axel revolved around her getting the Wild Cats job. Anything beyond that is speculation. What her end of the bargain was is unclear; though to be fair, his end of the bargain is also unclear just easier to intuit.

One of the things I really don't like about chapter 11, is it takes away a lot of some of the more interesting speculations we as a player base had about the characters. Up until she mentions Axel didn't uphold their accord, we were all pretty much in agreement that while Ivy did it in her own unique, albeit at times misguided, way she does have Lena and Holly's best interests at heart. See also, her Perry interaction.

Same applies to Marcel; again I think a lot of people here acknowledged he would still be used for BBC, but his interactions with Holly made it seem like it wouldn't be the normal troupe.

Ivy, to me, is a more interesting character as a slutty, but kind hearted friend. Not as a scheming manipulative slut. That is a tired troupe. Marcel was more interesting as a friendly giant, and not as a background BBC fetish.
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Tbf, the whore with a heart of gold is also a much used trope. I always saw Ivy as manipulative and selfish, specially with Holly but also with Lena and I think I'd prefer that to your interpretation. Now, manipulative and selfish doesn't mean necessarily evil and heartless. She could care about Lena (I have much more doubts regarding Holly) but just on her terms and putting herself first.

Takkatakka said:
The deal seemed to have been a one time thing. Could very well be, that Alex screwed Ivy over, very well knowing they weren't looking for her type.
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Or that he overstated to Ivy his role and importance on the selection process (would fit his character pretty well) and make it look like he was the one choosing and instead he was just part of the process and others preferred Cindy.

ffive said:
I don't know -- it's not like the game exactly had any of these up to this point. The closest it gets to it is Ian fucking his friend's girlfriend and even that is just him mostly being horny.

I mean, Andrea9999 people had expected evil plans from Seymour too and he turned out to be just a pathetic simp. :whistle:
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I don't know, you have Ian and Wade, Ian and Perry (Emma), Jeremy and Ian (Lena), Lena and Louise (Jeremy), Louise/Ivy and Lena (sending nudes to Ian), Slutty Holly and Lena (Ian)... There are plenty of shitty friendships going on, it's more difficult to find the wholesome ones (basically Emma's).
 
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Socrambus said:
Ivy fucking Axel is definitely possible, even probable (taking into account the removed Ian and Axel interaction in the bar). But she also encourages Lena several times to not avoid Axel and talk to him which is dubious advice to a female friend whose ex has gone to her workplace and punched one of her coworkers. But who knows, we'll see in (hopefully near) future updates.
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Honestly Ivy's position makes sense. Lena says she wants nothing to do with him but then flips out when she sees him with another girl. This happens with Cherry at the birthday party and possibly Cindy as well. Ivy is saying that she needs to stop acting hung up and jealous regarding him to show that she's moved on and that will have Axel hopefully get closure. To Ivy she believes that since Lena wants nothing to do with Axel he shouldn't have so much affect on her emotions especially if it could appear that she isn't really over the relationship either.

And I doubt Ivy is so manipulative as you believe because not only did she not tell him where she work she also didn't tell him where she now lives. I also think there was a possible agreement between the two where she would tell Lena to talk to him once but since Ivy knew Lena wants nothing to do with him she agreed since she believed it'd go nowhere. Now she does believe life should be lived a certain way but she appears to still support Lena even when those views conflict. Keep in mind she tried to play nice with Louise for Lena even with their beef.
 
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ffive said:
I don't know -- it's not like the game exactly had any of these up to this point. The closest it gets to it is Ian fucking his friend's girlfriend and even that is just him mostly being horny.

I mean, Andrea9999 people had expected evil plans from Seymour too and he turned out to be just a pathetic simp. :whistle:
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*sigh* I guess it means Agnes and/or Arthur combined with Axel will have to take over as handlers...or of course, Seymour might get in trouble when taking Lena to Dubai and scurry away to save his hide leaving Lena to face what comes next. I think the reason for the apparent fizzle is EK's general burn-out coupled with the urgency to "get something out".
 
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Blurpee69 said:
I thought the deal Ivy made with Axel revolved around her getting the Wild Cats job. Anything beyond that is speculation. What her end of the bargain was is unclear; though to be fair, his end of the bargain is also unclear just easier to intuit.

One of the things I really don't like about chapter 11, is it takes away a lot of some of the more interesting speculations we as a player base had about the characters. Up until she mentions Axel didn't uphold their accord, we were all pretty much in agreement that while Ivy did it in her own unique, albeit at times misguided, way she does have Lena and Holly's best interests at heart. See also, her Perry interaction.

Same applies to Marcel; again I think a lot of people here acknowledged he would still be used for BBC, but his interactions with Holly made it seem like it wouldn't be the normal troupe.

Ivy, to me, is a more interesting character as a slutty, but kind hearted friend. Not as a scheming manipulative slut. That is a tired troupe. Marcel was more interesting as a friendly giant, and not as a background BBC fetish.
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I like Marcel to be a kind hearted BBC who throw his bone for a needy slut.
 
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