Never said otherwise. But if she did infact drug Holly it would be the worst thing she has done by far. Her worst behavior prior was bad friend/shitty human territory, not actual drug rape stuff.
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Yes Holly was certainly under drug influence. But Ivy didn't need to coerce her, just to propose her molly like she did to Lena. And Holly being weak willed under peer pressure took it.
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Ivy is a saint!
And Your sir need to cease your slander against our pious queen!
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Imagine if a man did that.
You guys need to call out Ivy on her bullshit LIKE YOU DO TO ALL THE OTHER CHARACTERS!
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It's much worse when a woman do it, because another woman don't expect that one of her own can do something like that. Women has always taught that in a patriarchal world where men dominate, only women have one another for support and can protect each other. So, when a woman break that trust, it's much worse coming from her, because that's expected from a man.
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Yes, that’s true, and Ivy has also degenerated. Why? Because Eva has lost any inspiration to write. Come up with some kind of motivation that why is Ivy corrupting Holly, why is she trying to corrupt Lena - why need it? She's just evil because she's bad, that's what it looks like now. Do you need some explanation why the characters behave this way? Oh look, new GGGB cameo and 5 scenes with no-name NPCs, enjoy.
People were grasping at the same straws when Holly went with Mark and blew him in the car. "Oh no, poor sweet Holly is too pure and would never do that on her own. Look, Ivy gave her a drink at the club, she must've put drugs in it!" Give it a chapter or two of Holly fucking around, and no one thinks Holly is "too pure for a hookup" and must be getting drugged to act like that, or bat an eye when she sneaks into Ian's room to fuck him or blows a co-worker.
It's as simple as Holly having a "corruption" arc in porn game. Chain-sucking dicks is just a small step along this road, she'll be doing BBC gang bangs soon enough.
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The drug scene is currently just speculation by Lena. We don't know if Ivy secretly druged Holly or if Holly took the drugs voluntarily to encourage herself. Holly also smoked weed on her own volation (and didn't took that well). Both distributing and receiving drugs is just bad in general, you can blame Ivy, but also Holly.
On a serious note, the Billy trip has to deliver and Ivy has to get good scenes there.
If few patreons truly dictate the game, its doomed.
Nah, Lena fucks Billy and Ivy remains a virgin.Is going to be funny when in the next update even Billy taps that Ivy ass before Ian
On a serious note, the Billy trip has to deliver and Ivy has to get good scenes there.
So are John and Clark 250€ patreons that got in the game and are allowed to fuck Lena and Holly as a reward?It's totally on EK then. Imagine allowing any degenerate real life Stan to be part of the creative process.
If few patreons truly dictate the game, its doomed.
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I agree with you on most part but I don't think Ivy needs a reason to be who she is, It's evident to me that she simply enjoys manipulating people in fact i'm glad she's like that because it makes things more interesting and creates more drama.
Maybe Eva will give some more insight into Ivy's personality in the future, maybe if she falls for Ian she opens up to him and we'll know more about her.
She could also be just drunk on cocks.
Except this time it is true. Just as I posted in the beginning, Lena said, while watching holly's clips, that "Holly had a strange expression, dazed, with dilated pupils and flushed cheeks." and if Lena's wit is high enough (wits>7), she also added "It felt like she was under the influence of something, or at least that's how it seemed to me..."
Funnily enough the members on her discord does call us whiner's and talks about how great of an update it was .I'll bet the conversation over on Eva's Discord is just about the exact opposite of ours. "Eva, you're awesome, go Stanny go, I love him so much and he finally scored! Best update ever!" Also it's hilarious to me that during and after the sex, there's nothing from Stan about "offering his sword" and all his weird clingy love talk, he's just completely exhausted.
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Let's say that's true. But why manipulate people? Why does she behave like that? What led to this? We need a personal background. If we have Ivy villian arc, then why not write her as a controversial character, and not boringly bad, just because.
I doubt about development of character arcs and writing their personalities, because the last few updates I see downgrade characters. Eva now is Ubisofting her game and asking real-life Stan's and Perry's what to do next.
Ironically, I was Eva's defender long time ago.
An introverted and very weak willed Holly is peer pressured into doing drugs. There is a power disparity here. It's pretty coercive compared to homegirls passing each other drugs. But whether it be drugs or cocks that she is high on, Ivy and Lena are real fucked up people in this route, for real lol. Because let's face it, Eva took the dive into the corruption spiral. It's no longer a nuanced look of perhaps a shy girl breaking out of her shell with some sex positive message from her close friends. It's two horrible sluts corrupting a girl who had a bright future ahead of her.
I know there's that line but like i said, it could be just as well emotional high from sucking bunch of cocks at a glory hole. Something that's a bit of a trope. Flushed checks, dilated pupils and dazed expression are common symptoms of basic, high arousal, too. Remember Lena's "crazy eyes" people are making fun of in this thread? It's similar thing.
Of course, Holly could very well be on drugs. In case people forgot Holly has demonstrated in the game that she is willing to both drink and smoke weed. What's the problem if she decided to have more fun with that? There's hardly need for "evil Ivy" here unless you're trying to cling to the "pure Holly" image, like Lena is seemingly doing.
Eva made a post saying that she would never stray from the original plan for this game. Yet it really does seem like she's just following her top patreons wishes and polls.
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LMAO some of the posts made me laugh out loud,thanks for that.
Fan favourite armour so strong people are even blaming Holly
Fan favourite armour so strong people are even blaming Holly
Of course is true,you literally have to turn off your brain and look to the other side in that scene to no understand what is happening.
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You don't need to feel bad about defending Eva back then because you had every reason to, the only issue we felt frustrated by was the long wait between updates.
At that time she was actually decent, motivated and had a clear vision... Now I'm not so sure.
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I feel like whole episodes would have been better despite the long wait.