VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[ExtremeLips]

Jeremy is there.

Holly and Emma would've mentioned it.
Cindy doesn't know Billy.

I dread some GGGB cameos. Especially Tyrone and his gang.

I'd be surprised if Ivy doesn't have Holly(slutty path) tag along. Cindy could have connection with in Billy's crew

 

[Gicoo]

Cindy could have connection with in Billy's crew

How? She is dependent on Axel.

 

[Gicoo]

As for Holly, again, she or Ivy would mention this to Lena. Holly probably doesn't have a car, so Ivy would need to drive her as well. There was no indication that Ivy and Lena are picking her up. It makes logisticaly less sense from what we know so far.

 

[ExtremeLips]

As for Holly, again, she or Ivy would mention this to Lena. Holly probably doesn't have a car, so Ivy would need to drive her as well. There was no indication that Ivy and Lena are picking her up. It makes logisticaly less sense from what we know so far.

So you're telling me it'll only be Lena and Ivy from the known girls? That will be a disappointment. Don't forget both Ivy and Holly didn't let Lena know about the gloryhole visit until after

 

[Saerwen]

Considering the demographic of Fmc games enjoyers, it's not surprising lol.
Fmc Starter pack:

Slutty female mc

Push over boyfriend to get cucked.

Hot guys to cuck boyfriend with.

Plenty of corruption arcs.

You have those who play to be wild and then like wow, she's wildin' and those who play other route and be like wow she's not wildin'. Meanwhile, there are others who aren't surprised that you can be both. This is the problem with FMC games, you are either a Virgin Mary or a Whore of Babylon, you can't be both. Lmfao

 

[Gicoo]

So you're telling me it'll only be Lena and Ivy from the known girls? That will be a disappointment. Don't forget both Ivy and Holly didn't let Lena know about the gloryhole visit until after

I was also very disappointed by the lack of characters at the beach. You got the famous beach chapter and all we got was three girls, Ian, Wade, the dog, and Jenthe.
The gloryhole was an event unrelated to Lena. Billys trip is an important event for Ivy and potentially Lena, Ivy wouldn't plan for a surprise there.

 

[varpep]

I was also very disappointed by the lack of characters at the beach. You got the famous beach chapter and all we got was three girls, Ian, Wade, the dog, and Jenthe.
The gloryhole was an event unrelated to Lena. Billys trip is an important event for Ivy and potentially Lena, Ivy wouldn't plan for a surprise there.

You are 100% right. Lola would've made the beach house so much better!

 

[ExtremeLips]

I was also very disappointed by the lack of characters at the beach. You got the famous beach chapter and all we got was three girls, Ian, Wade, the dog, and Jenthe.
The gloryhole was an event unrelated to Lena. Billys trip is an important event for Ivy and potentially Lena, Ivy wouldn't plan for a surprise there.

 

[ffive]

I'd be surprised if Ivy doesn't have Holly(slutty path) tag along. Cindy could have connection with in Billy's crew

Slutty Holly visits Ian because she needs a room to stay after Lena and Ivy had departed for Billy adventure. She is not tagging along.

Cindy doesn't have any connections with Billy, and Billy has no real connections with modeling world, he's only just starting.

 

[Gicoo]

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For starters, you asked us about our expectations of Billy's event. Secondary, its not so much of what I want to happen (opinion), but what I expect to happen given the info and indicators we got (fact). Much more characters would enrichen the beach event and Billy's trip. Doesn't change the fact that they include only very few characters of the total cast.

 

[JoJoPool]

Depending on previous choices, JeremyxIvy is either 100% happening or not, maybe LenaxIvyxJeremy or LenaxJeremyxIvyxBilly...
Another thing i expect to see is some Drama between a Lena who has shown interest in Billy and Ivy where Lena can steal the spotlight from her by seducing Billy thus ruining her modeling chances or of course just do a photoshoot, get a few drinks then fuck off back home.

 

[Urist McHorny]

Considering the demographic of Fmc games enjoyers, it's not surprising lol.
Fmc Starter pack:

Slutty female mc

Push over boyfriend to get cucked.

Hot guys to cuck boyfriend with.

Plenty of corruption arcs.

For me it's dump any boyfriend/husband
start slutting it up with girls/futas
get bimbolicious
Get paid for sex

 

[Zara Scarlet]

The way Lena talks to Holly is, again, decided by the player's choices. Lena can encourage Holly to have sex, but she also has numerous options to (literally) "protect Holly" where she does the opposite and actively counters Ivy's ideas and influence. In fact, using these options Lena can form a monogamous relationship with Holly that's presented all like innocent unicorns and rainbows for both of them, including the supposed all-out-slut Lena.

Lena's former sex partners are also not set in stone -- she mentions having a lot of them if she's Lust oriented. She mentions having some casual partners if she's Charisma oriented. And she mentions none when she's Wits oriented which, given the alternatives, makes it a logical conclusion that on this path she didn't actually have many such relationships, if any at all. Lena is very much what you choose to make her and like i said, that includes Nerd Lena who'd kept very much to herself for most of her life, with her friendship with Ivy being more of "opposites attract" than "two peas in a sex pod".

As for the cuck route... the whole cuck route and talk about past dicks only happens if you choose for Lena to have sex with Axel in Ch.9 (or to work with Seymour against her misgivings) Afterwards, what Lena is doing is having sexy talks with her partner about things he clearly enjoys. Not only are these talks based mainly on what she's done in the game not before it (so yet, again, player's choices) but there's also no guarantee that what Lena tells Ian is 100% based on her actual experiences, as opposed to just telling him what he likes to hear.


I don't think anyone is saying that. I'm simply noting that the idea of Lena as "wild, adventurous girl with plenty of sex and someone Ian has no choice but to enter open relationship with and strive all the time to match her slutty attitude" is very much misguided and perhaps based more on how you've played your particular Lena, than anything else. She can be like that, yes, but she can also be nothing like that.

I agree with a lot of what you say, and yes you can make Lena behave very differently, depending on what choices you make. But that doesn't remove her former experiences, and remake her into a completely different person. Those continue to influence her behaviour, whatever path the player forces her down. She might be all lovey dovey with Holly, but once she's out of that situation, she often reverts to kind, particularly if you're also pursuing contrary content like Stalkfap or Seymour.

Yes, you can make it so she becomes just another Holly clone if you want, by avoiding every single choice, that instinctively you know she would likely make, if not for your input. Because at the end of the day, Eva wants to give players the agency to remake the MCs to their own tastes. She may have once been a nerdy girl before she met Ivy, but regardless of what brought them together, her friendship with Ivy changed her, and she became much more open, wilder and willing to experiment sexually. Come on, she's a nude model for god's sake, and she had a relationship with a guy like Axel. Would someone like Holly have done something like that, before she too came under Ivy's influence? Ivy has had a huge influence on Lena's personality, and whatever the player tries to do, that influence remains everytime the two of them get together

Yes, you might be correct that she's telling Ian what he wants to hear on the cuck route, but conversely she might also feel freer to reveal the complete truth about her former sexual experiences, because she's secretly enjoying tormenting him? Because lets face it, couples don't generally reveal everything about their relationships with former boyfriends or girlfriends, because it can often create awkwardness or even outright jealousy, particularly if in certain aspects they were better, than your current partner.

One of my ex-partners hated me talking about any former relationships, and got really jealous if I mentioned even the slightest reminiscence. So maybe in that situation Lena feels more relaxed about telling the truth about her former hook-ups (which often involved guys who were very different to Ian), than she is, in their more conventional relationships, where she's trying a lot harder not to hurt Ian?

 

[Saerwen]

It's peculiar how there are those who like when FMC is single and pursue available characters and those who like when FMC is not single so she can cheat.

 

[ffive]

She may have once been a nerdy girl before she met Ivy, but regardless of what brought them together, her friendship with Ivy changed her, and she became much more open, wilder and willing to experiment sexually. Come on, she's a nude model for god's sake, and she had a relationship with a guy like Axel.

I just want to point out that Cindy is also a girl who becomes a nude model and potentially gets Axel as her boyfriend. And she's nowhere near being wild sexually when that happens -- quite the opposite, she's reluctant to even give blowjobs and reacts negatively to being lightly spanked.

What i'm getting at is there isn't really anything in these two activities per se that defines a girl who engage in them as wild and sexually uninhibited. Nude modeling is just that (heck, even pure version of Holly will readily do that with Lena) and dating Axel is similarly not something that requires all-stamped sex freak bingo card to apply. As such, Lena doing these things doesn't really reflect on her personality as much as you'd present it here.

I agree that Ivy likely had some impact on Lena, but this, too is something the player can limit/control -- Lena can turn down Ivy's sexual advances as well as actively limit her actions and advice when it comes to others (Holly) and abstain from both drugs and smoking. I think it's pretty hard to argue such strait-laced and conservative version of Lena is really some sort of wild and uninhibited sex freak.

 

[BlandChili]

It's peculiar how there are those who like when FMC is single and pursue available characters and those who like when FMC is not single so she can cheat.

I prefer FMC start without a relationship just because I dislike having any characters foisted upon me for that kind of role. Starting as single doesn't have to mean you can't get a partner to cuck later, as is the case with ORS.

 

[ffive]

I prefer FMC start without a relationship just because I dislike having any characters foisted upon me for that kind of role. Starting as single doesn't have to mean you can't get a partner to cuck later, as is the case with ORS.

I kind of like existing relationship at the start because this state of things presumably has lasted for a while, so handwringing over whether to cheat in such setup hits different than cheating on someone the MC got together with literally a week ago or less.

 

[Saerwen]

I prefer FMC start without a relationship just because I dislike having any characters foisted upon me for that kind of role. Starting as single doesn't have to mean you can't get a partner to cuck later, as is the case with ORS.

Yeah same. I prefer having a preference to choose characters because I feel bad when FMC is in a relationship/married and you are either forced into NTR or Netorase. This is why I like this game and I was cringing hard when I had to cheat on Eric with Jack in GGGB. There are rarely male characters as bad men so at least you have a reason to cheat, but it's always a good guy.

 

[Terry Zimmerman]

I think what you see in a playthrough is canon for that particular playthrough. The background of the characters ultimately adapt to the choices of the player. The best example of this is the drinking game at the beach. In the drinking game for Ian you can choose yes or no and it seems that whatever you choose is the truth.

 

[BlandChili]

I kind of like existing relationship at the start because this state of things presumably has lasted for a while, so handwringing over whether to cheat in such setup hits different than cheating on someone the MC got together with literally a week ago or less.

To me it never really hits at all. In a game where you start in a relationship, we as players have no more familiarity with the MC and their partner compared to any other characters, so I have no reason to care about the relationship or whether to cheat or not. So either I look for the first opportunity to dump said relationship or I never play the game at all if such an option does not exist.

To me relationships I get to decide on actually feel impactful to maneuver with and around. Because I chose it, I have reason to care. Duration can of course impact the drama somewhat, but at least I care about that drama.

Yeah same. I prefer having a preference to choose characters because I feel bad when FMC is in a relationship/married and you are either forced into NTR or Netorase. This is why I like this game and I was cringing hard when I had to cheat on Eric with Jack in GGGB. There are rarely male characters as bad men so at least you have a reason to cheat, but it's always a good guy.

I don't feel bad, I just don't feel anything at all. Eric in GGGB is an obstacle to bring out of the way to me, he's just a dude who's wasting time in the story by being present.
Eric being good doesn't concern me.

Out of principle I usually don't play cheating characters if I can avoid it. Breaking up with their partners, to free up my FMC to make her own relationships, is sufficient for my enjoyment, when I have such options.