Yellowie The Goldie

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Hot take

Lena has the possibility to become an even worse version of Axel, whom cheats on her boyfriend recklessly and constantly: doing the very same thing that was done to her, except dialled to 11 on the severity scale.

Axel was attracted to Cherry and on he realised the damage it caused: was remorseful and wanted to talk to Lena and try to mend things. He still ends up being remorseful if Lena ends up talking to him and hearing him out.

Cheating Slut Lena is worse than Possessive & Overly Protective Axel could ever be, yikes.
 
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Hot take

Lena has the possibility to become an even worse version of Axel, whom cheats on her boyfriend recklessly and constantly: doing the very same thing that was done to her, except dialled to 11 on the severity scale.

Axel was attracted to Cherry and on he realised the damage it caused: was remorseful and wanted to talk to Lena and try to mend things. He still ends up being remorseful if Lena ends up talking to him and hearing him out.

Cheating Slut Lena is worse than Possessive & Overly Protective Axel could ever be, yikes.
Is that really a hot take?

"[Main character(s)] of [porn VN] can fuck behind their partner(s) back(s) a lot," I mean, it is a choice-driven narrative. Part of the point of playing the game is that you can be a cheating bitch if you wanna.. ;)
 

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Is that really a hot take?

"[Main character(s)] of [porn VN] can fuck behind their partner(s) back(s) a lot," I mean, it is a choice-driven narrative. Part of the point of playing the game is that you can be a cheating bitch if you wanna.. ;)
Yeah, but it's something I found to be very ironic and hypocritical: her doing worse things than what has happened to her, without anyone close to her calling her out for being a hypocrite.
 

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Yeah, but it's something I found to be very ironic and hypocritical: her doing worse things than what has happened to her, without anyone close to her calling her out for being a hypocrite.
I mean, the only character she can be in an active relationship with, Ian, can call her out for it almost as soon as he becomes aware of it, if Jeremy tells him. Her Holly relationship just started so we don't know how much she can cheat on her.
Hypocrite, sure, but that's the point of making choices for yourself, that you can be one. The calling out bit, I mean, this isn't really a romance story and Lena can only really be exclusive, or at least express this wish initially, with Ian so far.
 
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Hot take

Lena has the possibility to become an even worse version of Axel, whom cheats on her boyfriend recklessly and constantly: doing the very same thing that was done to her, except dialled to 11 on the severity scale.

Axel was attracted to Cherry and on he realised the damage it caused: was remorseful and wanted to talk to Lena and try to mend things. He still ends up being remorseful if Lena ends up talking to him and hearing him out.

Cheating Slut Lena is worse than Possessive & Overly Protective Axel could ever be, yikes.
I dig the remorseful Axel potential similar to Jack, but I assume that was dropped, since the closest scene to make him sympathetic was removed and over the course of the development, lines were added throughout the game emphasizing how manipulative and incorrigible he is.

So no, Axel only felt remorse after Cherry because Lena left him, not because he hurt them. His apology is just a pretense to get close to her: He "accidentally" plants photos in the item he delivers to Lena, he offers her a potential model job and almost always makes a move on her at the shooting. He doesn't want to mend the relationship, he wants it back.

Can Lena be worse than him? She feels guilty cheating on Ian, so she isn't as detached (yet). Stealing money and going full on Seymour may lead to being entirely ruthless and self-absorbed, but at her core she is relatively good and kind, so it requires more for her to surpass Axel.
 
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I dig the remorseful Axel potential similar to Jack, but I assume that was dropped, since the closest scene to make him sympathetic was removed and over the course of the development, lines were added throughout the game emphasizing how manipulative and incorrigible he is.

So no, Axel only felt remorse after Cherry because Lena left him, not because he hurt them. His apology is just a pretense to get close to her: He "accidentally" plants photos in the item he delivers to Lena, he offers her a potential model job and almost always makes a move on her at the shooting. He doesn't want to mend the relationship, he wants it back.

Can Lena be worse than him? She feels guilty cheating on Ian, so she isn't as detached (yet). Stealing money and going full on Seymour may lead to being entirely ruthless and self-absorbed, but at her core she is relatively good and kind, so it requires more for her to surpass Axel.

Wait, what? Closest scene to make him sympathetic was removed? Really? What scene was it, if you can remember?
 

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Wait, what? Closest scene to make him sympathetic was removed? Really? What scene was it, if you can remember?
At the bar, when Ian and Jeremy discussed Lena, Alison and then see Jessica and trying to flirt with her, just to be interrupted by Axel, Seymour and Ivy.

Originally, Ian hung out with Axel, he talked a bit about his past breakup, then they see Jessica and Axel is the one to encourage Ian to go for her.
 
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Jeremy is a SA agressor who never gets caught and is always date raping his women: he is the bartender getting them drugs and drunk and then proffiteering all the way. Drug rapists are plot armored ”players” in all games on this site and bulls rarely have any brains apart from the body proportions that somehow trump everything in the game to plot armor the idiots.
Jeremy is trash because he is the one pushing Ian into the girl who was otherwise sending him pictures. So Jeremy sets Ian up, plays possum that he is training Ian, but on the night, Jeremy says he will also play for the girl who was already in his DMs for months before Ian ever knew of her: Allison.
So, a shit for brains, drug rapist, plays Ian for a dumb idiot and then says it is fair game he would also use his plot armored months in advance game with the same girl against Ian.
That is ground to fkk Jeremy up and never look back. No human being should stand for such blatant humiliation and mockery as being set up with a girl Jeremy has in the bag by plot armor, his DMs with her months in advance, and his setting Ian up on his first try as being opposite him in the same rigged game.
As the bartender who knows a girl IS DRUGGED AND OUT OF HER MIND in his place of work- he is DATE RAPING HER.
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Yes? That was my point. I wasn't advocating, directly anyway, that they get back together. I was advocating that they both played a part in the relationship failing. Which is true, even if they don't recognize it. The relationship always fails. They always breakup. No matter what. It's a matter of how they breakup that determines their relationship going forward.

Wade's story arc, through the beach house event, is how he comes to terms with his breakup with Cindy. If Ian has helped them, Wade recognizes his failings in the relationship and that he is partially to blame. If Ian does nothing, Wade will recognize his failings, but he won't take the blame (or at least significantly less). If Ian actively sabotages their relationship, Wade will neither recognize his failings and will place all the blame with Cindy. It can be safe to assume that mostly holds true for Cindy as well, although we're not privy to her line of thinking like we are Wade's.

I'll be honest, the longer the storyline goes on, the more I'm inclined to believe that they should not get back together in a romantic capacity.



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Surprised there isn't one for "can we have a Dominant Lena 'pegging Ian' route yet?"
Considering how long it seems that EK has made the fans game something as common as MFM threesome, a pegging scene may be asking too much; but maybe if we get to a MFF with female using a strap-on then maybe... but to be true I don't think the male cast of the game will be willing to take it, except Perry and his hairy ass
 
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