VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[stuffygames]

I have a love-hate relationship with this AVN.
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I agree with this sentiment, but will say that it offers the player choices on how each character develops. You can make Ian or Lena 'almost' whatever you want, which I find rare in most AVNs.

The things I may have done differently, and what I dislike the most -

Seymour Route - It doesn't seem to matter which route or how you play Lena, she just ignores all her previous personality traits and becomes obsessed with money and power, in VERY short order. It's one thing to be in financial straits and need to do something you don't like to survive, and another to embrace it with the enthusiasm Lena shows if you give in.

Ian Cuck Route - She can be 100% in love with Ian, but rapidly becomes really cruel. There is no middle ground where there might be a sharing route, or hotwife style relationship. Makes this route no fun for me, maybe if you are really into humiliation that works.

Ian imho suffers inner turmoil too much, 'can I be with her or not, do I like sluts or not' yada yada, while he will happily be with Allison, Minerva, Emma, too much thinking with the upper head for even a cerebral human male. In cuck route he fights it too much when he obviously enjoys the thought, but this comes back to no actual sharing route where he is fine with it, oh unless it's Emma or Holly.....

The teasing of a MMF 3some, when there are a possible 2 MFF 3somes midish game, the dildo play but no dp for Lena. Turbo slut or not, give her what she wants!!

It is a pretty flexible AVN, just some routes seem half hearted and try to quickly get to conclusion so EK can focus on the stuff she prefers, which is fine, it's her story afterall.

 

[ffive]

Having a bit of a deja vu here...



I swear, those two should start their own TV show, or something. "Cockblocking Cheaters With Ivy And Jeremy".

(btw, Mike should have his shorts off in that scene, he was balls deep in Lena right a moment ago. Unless he's mastered art of putting them on, which i guess would track with his cheating ways)

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

Also when Jess and Ian finally hook up on Jess' redemption path, but I know that isn't a main path for Ian, so I'm happy with whatever we get there. It gives me the warm fuzzies .

Bad Jess really has the best potential for growth as a character imo She has a healthy combination of 'out of reach' and warming up to Ian to make it interesting. Plus she's one of the few characters with mystery to themselves, the other one being Lena's brother which... We might never see tbh.

Still, she's better than Louise, Alison, and Cherry by miles so there is that.

I'll the Cherry slander slide cuz the rant is funny

I'm ngl I had hopes Ivy wouldn't turn out to be the corny bitch she is in chap 14 but with it being the canon version... Ouch. Cuz now, anything and everything will be to get back at Lena which kinda takes away from bagging her. It's not even subtle or assumed that Ivy is petty. She is openly just that.

Running circles around Billy (who's already comically trash) was really, REALLY bad.

 

[ridejock]

I'm sure this has been talked about but in one of my Ian playthroughs on his Alisson route, during the threesome with jeremy if ian can't perform(aka watches) jeremy does not wear a condom. whenever ian participates jeremy does. my question is, do we know that alisson takes the morning after pill, and if she doesn't what happens when the baby comes out as (??) jeremy's?

 

[Saerwen]

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Having a bit of a deja vu here...

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I swear, those two should start their own TV show, or something. "Cockblocking Cheaters With Ivy And Jeremy".

(btw, Mike should have his shorts off in that scene, he was balls deep in Lena right a moment ago. Unless he's mastered art of putting them on, which i guess would track with his cheating ways)

Interesting. I have this crazy theory. Since one time is coincidence and second time the purpose, what if Ivy and Jeremy are stalkers and cockblocking Ian and Lena both whenever they are with other people? Jeremy because he wants Lena and Ivy because she wants Ian.

 

[ExtremeLips]

I'm sure this has been talked about but in one of my Ian playthroughs on his Alisson route, during the threesome with jeremy if ian can't perform(aka watches) jeremy does not wear a condom. whenever ian participates jeremy does. my question is, do we know that alisson takes the morning after pill, and if she doesn't what happens when the baby comes out as (??) jeremy's?

Alison gets angry about it if anyone cums in her. She takes the pill but is not happy about it

 

[ffive]

Interesting. I have this crazy theory. Since one time is coincidence and second time the purpose, what if Ivy and Jeremy are stalkers and cockblocking them both whenever they are with other people. Jeremy because he wants Lena and Ivy because she wants Ian.

Solid, but hear me out: what if it's because Ivy wants Lena and Jeremy wants Ian.

 

[Saerwen]

Solid, but hear me out: what if it's because Ivy wants Lena and Jeremy wants Ian.

Eh, knowing Eva Jeremy part is unlikely. But, there are always back scenes.

 

[xally]

I'm honestly surprised by the lack of some more hardcore tropes, like blackmail etc. I was hoping Seymour storyline would go this way, but well. Something like the beggining of Wilson arc in GGGB, where Ash was kinda forced to deal with him would be really nice to see, but at that point in the story it would probably feel kinda forced :/

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

Interesting. I have this crazy theory. Since one time is coincidence and second time the purpose, what if Ivy and Jeremy are stalkers and cockblocking Ian and Lena both whenever they are with other people? Jeremy because he wants Lena and Ivy because she wants Ian.

Nice theory! It actually makes a lot sense, I always imagine Jeremy with binoculars spying on Ian waiting for him to do the deed. That or he's into birdwatching himself.

I'm honestly surprised by the lack of some more hardcore tropes, like blackmail etc. I was hoping Seymour storyline would go this way, but well. Something like the beggining of Wilson arc in GGGB, where Ash was kinda forced to deal with him would be really nice to see, but at that point in the story it would probably feel kinda forced :/

I think Eva's tryna make the game family share-friendly so it's unlikely we gon get some of the degenerate shit we've witnessed in GGGB. I think it's for the better.

 

[Turret]

Seymour Route - It doesn't seem to matter which route or how you play Lena, she just ignores all her previous personality traits and becomes obsessed with money and power, in VERY short order. It's one thing to be in financial straits and need to do something you don't like to survive, and another to embrace it with the enthusiasm Lena shows if you give in.

Don´t know how you play your Lenas, but that is something I do not have even on the Seymour dating route. You have to choose to make Lena obsessed with money and power, it does not happen just so.

 

[Saerwen]

I'm honestly surprised by the lack of some more hardcore tropes, like blackmail etc. I was hoping Seymour storyline would go this way, but well. Something like the beggining of Wilson arc in GGGB, where Ash was kinda forced to deal with him would be really nice to see, but at that point in the story it would probably feel kinda forced :/

Either Eva wanted the game to be lighter or she didn't want to risk because anything hardcore is against Patreon's rules. Frankly, former is bigger probability.

 

[SteelyDan14]

I agree with this sentiment, but will say that it offers the player choices on how each character develops. You can make Ian or Lena 'almost' whatever you want, which I find rare in most AVNs.

The things I may have done differently, and what I dislike the most -

Seymour Route - It doesn't seem to matter which route or how you play Lena, she just ignores all her previous personality traits and becomes obsessed with money and power, in VERY short order. It's one thing to be in financial straits and need to do something you don't like to survive, and another to embrace it with the enthusiasm Lena shows if you give in.

Ian Cuck Route - She can be 100% in love with Ian, but rapidly becomes really cruel. There is no middle ground where there might be a sharing route, or hotwife style relationship. Makes this route no fun for me, maybe if you are really into humiliation that works.

Ian imho suffers inner turmoil too much, 'can I be with her or not, do I like sluts or not' yada yada, while he will happily be with Allison, Minerva, Emma, too much thinking with the upper head for even a cerebral human male. In cuck route he fights it too much when he obviously enjoys the thought, but this comes back to no actual sharing route where he is fine with it, oh unless it's Emma or Holly.....

The teasing of a MMF 3some, when there are a possible 2 MFF 3somes midish game, the dildo play but no dp for Lena. Turbo slut or not, give her what she wants!!

It is a pretty flexible AVN, just some routes seem half hearted and try to quickly get to conclusion so EK can focus on the stuff she prefers, which is fine, it's her story afterall.

I get it and I agree. There are a whole lot of different ways you can play it, but so far none of them seems to be the way I would like it. I even tried to play Ian as a male whore but he inevitably gets hooked on one girl and then shuts everyone else down. Like I said, it's a love/hate thing. I start enjoying a path and then it takes an unexpected turn. It's like when they are at the house party for the weekend. If Lena is in slut mode, even if she calls Billy out on his bullshit business idea and let's everyone know he and andrew are just using the girls and there are no guarantees on the revenue for them, she still ends up being part of it. I hate that. Other routes she can tell Billy to go fuck himself and his stupid idea but not in all of them.

Oh well. At least there is a crap ton of content to go through and there are some really great scenes and yes, I do appreciate EK's work.

 

[stuffygames]

I'm honestly surprised by the lack of some more hardcore tropes, like blackmail etc. I was hoping Seymour storyline would go this way, but well. Something like the beggining of Wilson arc in GGGB, where Ash was kinda forced to deal with him would be really nice to see, but at that point in the story it would probably feel kinda forced :/

Telling Seymour no way will net a kind of blackmail route where he goes after anyone Lena can work with, not super hardcore though.

 

[stuffygames]

I get it and I agree. There are a whole lot of different ways you can play it, but so far none of them seems to be the way I would like it. I even tried to play Ian as a male whore but he inevitably gets hooked on one girl and then shuts everyone else down. Like I said, it's a love/hate thing. I start enjoying a path and then it takes an unexpected turn. It's like when they are at the house party for the weekend. If Lena is in slut mode, even if she calls Billy out on his bullshit business idea and let's everyone know he and andrew are just using the girls and there are no guarantees on the revenue for them, she still ends up being part of it. I hate that. Other routes she can tell Billy to go fuck himself and his stupid idea but not in all of them.

Oh well. At least there is a crap ton of content to go through and there are some really great scenes and yes, I do appreciate EK's work.

I also feel this way, I am disappointed in most routes at some point during the game. The pure Ian/Lena route seems to be the only route where you get what you expect, or at least what I would expect. The others always fall short for me at least.

 

[stuffygames]

Don´t know how you play your Lenas, but that is something I do not have even on the Seymour dating route. You have to choose to make Lena obsessed with money and power, it does not happen just so.

Yea I get that, it's player choice, not saying you are forced into it. The issue I have is even if she is 100% pure in love with Ian, 'if' you give in to Seymour (to have some fucking money) Lena goes full cardashian, instant personality transplant. So that is disappointing.

 

[stuffygames]

Honestly... I still am waiting for my OTP. And I will still hold out on it, avoiding shit like the plague, all because EK truly is the most brain dead retard in terms of storytelling and management to date. I'm 5 years, going into 6 waiting for this to happen. And when it does happen I can go to Spain, find EK, and yell at the top of my lungs: TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH YOU BITCH!

Naturally, this update and it's shitshow drama is the most uninspired shit I have seen to date. It's lazy as fuck and pretty much shows anyone with a brain that EK is looking down the barrell of this and will be trying to put an end to this game sooner than later. 20 Chapters? Yeah, I'm not seeing it, specially with a update like this, where all it is is just drama, fetish paths pandered, and Ivy being a petty gremlin. Plus, yet again, we have MORE CHARACTERS who again MESH WELL ALREADY AND SOME HINTS THAT THINGS COULD HAPPEN WITH THEM, despite EK saying oh so long ago that that cast already had too many characters and wasn't planning to add more paths. Well, we all know thats been a fucking lie.

Like honestly, at the point, EK is just lying out of her ass trying to salvage her own shitshow of decision and storymaking by grasping at straws and it's going to keep going down hit the more EK lies to her masses and keeps theses bullshit 'HYPE' about each and every update she pulls out of her ass. PilotLara, please tell EK to manage her time better and write out her remaining chapters on paper before she keeps going halfcocked with theses updates. Also tell her Hawkes is still disappoint that her so called claims that Ian and Ivy happening have yet to happen in the 5+ years of her lies. Thanks.

Now, as for Ivy, I'm not half suprised EK is making her out to be this overly petty bitch who has to have her way or else she does bullshit things. EK really isn't trying to hide it now and is going to continue to try and make her out to be the most unlikeable character to date, all because she herself is so skilled issued on incorperating a character like Ivy into the game now, let alone have Ian and her be a actual thing. Still, she's better than Louise, Alison, and Cherry by miles so there is that.

In short:
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Time to whip up an Ivy's Diary AI game real quick.

 

[kioryu52]

Quick question: does this update have any new Lena cuckolding content? Be it related to Ian or Stan. I don't really vibe with Lena's scenes, and I usually either have her be a complete whore or entirely focused on Ian.

 

[rogerkobayashi]

Honestly... I still am waiting for my OTP. And I will still hold out on it, avoiding shit like the plague, all because EK truly is the most brain dead retard in terms of storytelling and management to date. I'm 5 years, going into 6 waiting for this to happen. And when it does happen I can go to Spain, find EK, and yell at the top of my lungs: TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH YOU BITCH!

Naturally, this update and it's shitshow drama is the most uninspired shit I have seen to date. It's lazy as fuck and pretty much shows anyone with a brain that EK is looking down the barrell of this and will be trying to put an end to this game sooner than later. 20 Chapters? Yeah, I'm not seeing it, specially with a update like this, where all it is is just drama, fetish paths pandered, and Ivy being a petty gremlin. Plus, yet again, we have MORE CHARACTERS who again MESH WELL ALREADY AND SOME HINTS THAT THINGS COULD HAPPEN WITH THEM, despite EK saying oh so long ago that that cast already had too many characters and wasn't planning to add more paths. Well, we all know thats been a fucking lie.

Like honestly, at the point, EK is just lying out of her ass trying to salvage her own shitshow of decision and storymaking by grasping at straws and it's going to keep going down hit the more EK lies to her masses and keeps theses bullshit 'HYPE' about each and every update she pulls out of her ass. PilotLara, please tell EK to manage her time better and write out her remaining chapters on paper before she keeps going halfcocked with theses updates. Also tell her Hawkes is still disappoint that her so called claims that Ian and Ivy happening have yet to happen in the 5+ years of her lies. Thanks.

Now, as for Ivy, I'm not half suprised EK is making her out to be this overly petty bitch who has to have her way or else she does bullshit things. EK really isn't trying to hide it now and is going to continue to try and make her out to be the most unlikeable character to date, all because she herself is so skilled issued on incorperating a character like Ivy into the game now, let alone have Ian and her be a actual thing. Still, she's better than Louise, Alison, and Cherry by miles so there is that.

In short:
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[falsapersona]

Quick question: does this update have any new Lena cuckolding content? Be it related to Ian or Stan. I don't really vibe with Lena's scenes, and I usually either have her be a complete whore or entirely focused on Ian.

SluttyLena can do a lot of cheating and make full use of her "open relationship" if they didn't break up before, which just means in this chapter she is an unstoppable force ready to mark any dick available and Ivy with her netori queen juices and later will cuddle with Ian for a good nice sleep, but so far their only interactions are through text messages