varpep

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Yeah I'm aware of those. I just didn't realise it works with Cindy as well. The others felt a bit more idk, obvious? and intended. I just never realised Cindy has it as well.

I wonder what other little changes based around clothing I've been missing. :unsure:
Mommy Minnie also gets a make over after she's tasted Ian's dick :giggle:. Also Stan can be seen in gym attire if you've been nice to him as Lena. Maybe Wade could get a glow up before end game. Also I heard Mercedes is Wade exclusive...BOOOOO Eva! BOOOOO :cautious:
 
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Mommy Minnie also gets a make over after she's tasted Ian's dick
Minerva, and Jess, was the one that I was confident on. You know you've made it on Minerva's love path when she takes her ascot off and you can see cleavage. It happens a chapter before their next scene when Ian can catch feelings for her. Her hair changes only if Ian has had sex with Minerva at some point.

The distinction between good Jess and bad Jess is obvious. But if Ian treats her well, bad Jess will start wearing good Jess' outfit, while keeping the scar on her lip, long before asking about Ian during the Nymph pool party.
 
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Yes, there is an extended scene of Ian and Cindy meeting up at the cafe and then going back to Cindy's place. Ian needs to set boundaries before Cindy leaves for the photoshoot, otherwise Ian will have every reason to doubt Cindy with regards to Axel. It's implied that she is cheating on Ian and Wade with Axel, but not yet proven.

If Ian is not in a relationship with Cindy, then Ian will run into Cindy and Axel on the street, which is what you're describing. If Cindy is in all white she is fully on board with Axel. If she has brown on she still has doubts and can be convinced to speak with Wade again. But that is as far as either story goes.
I'm pretty sure I've made every single choice to maximize her relationship and did the boundaries option when I got it, so I'm choosing to believe she's faithful to Ian. Also I know she does nude shoots regardless, but does encouraging her to do it the first time have any affect on anything?
 

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I'm pretty sure I've made every single choice to maximize her relationship and did the boundaries option when I got it, so I'm choosing to believe she's faithful to Ian. Also I know she does nude shoots regardless, but does encouraging her to do it the first time have any affect on anything?
Someone like ffive that actually looks at the code could tell you for certain. But I'm pretty sure she always poses nude. Same tasteful way that Lena does in her early shoots.
 

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It's been pointed out already, but Red String is a remastered version of Going Bad. Most of the cast are almost entirely carbon copied from it's predecessor. The karma system of "doing a good" and "doing a bad" was reworked, but the principle remained. The problem is, in Going Bad, the VN that never took itself too seriously, the porn cliches and shallow characters didn't drag the story down, since it was already on that level. Stupid footballer who never takes his hat off, the couple of gangbangers, the drink spiking rapist father of your boyfriend, your own mom - it's whatever, who cares, no judgy, it's trash, so anything goes. The corruption arc is the main driver here, so let's see how that one route unfolds.

But Red String tries to be grounded. It takes itself serious. Like a dumb person idea of HBO series. We've got drama: the main characters are wounded, betrayed people, they're in the market for some soul balm. Ian virginwalks at the beginning, skulking and everything, and Lena is whimpering outside of club, she's tired from playing a dog on a leash for her abusive boyfriend, her stupid stepdad got cancer and that deepthroat training she's submitted to probably does something bad to her singing voice. She got aspirations, y'know?

And here's the kicker: the so-called "slut route" sucks because female POV's options suck. It's been a constant source of negative feedback, but they still didn't get the necessary upgrade. What if Robert wasn't just a noodle with an apron, but actually had some personality and didn't try to lunge himself head first into Lena's pussy? What if Seymour wasn't a hand rubbing evil crime baron with a penchant for blackmail? What if Axel wasn't a turbo charged narcissist with violent outbreaks from drinking a bath full of PED's? At least Mike finally graduated from being a recolored Ian stand-in with a cheating flavor in the latest update and had a small detour that shined some light on his background and character. And that happened, what, at the end of six year of development? Did the rich guy from the Nymph event really had to be a dilapidated wrinkled fuck and not some suave hot piece of middle age ass? Not even going to mention Jeremy, because writing a not stereotypical black character is an impossible ask from Eva. I have a theory that if someone manages to show her a black individual with a small to average private parts she's going to dramatically turn to dust or evaporate into a vicious goo.

At some point you can tell the writer mentally checked out of the story, when characters and cameos started appearing in front of Lena, waving their dicks in front of her, literally asking if she's "going to be good/bad."
 

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It's been pointed out already, but Red String is a remastered version of Going Bad. Most of the cast are almost entirely carbon copied from it's predecessor. The karma system of "doing a good" and "doing a bad" was reworked, but the principle remained. The problem is, in Going Bad, the VN that never took itself too seriously, the porn cliches and shallow characters didn't drag the story down, since it was already on that level. Stupid footballer who never takes his hat off, the couple of gangbangers, the drink spiking rapist father of your boyfriend, your own mom - it's whatever, who cares, no judgy, it's trash, so anything goes. The corruption arc is the main driver here, so let's see how that one route unfolds.

But Red String tries to be grounded. It takes itself serious. Like a dumb person idea of HBO series. We've got drama: the main characters are wounded, betrayed people, they're in the market for some soul balm. Ian virginwalks at the beginning, skulking and everything, and Lena is whimpering outside of club, she's tired from playing a dog on a leash for her abusive boyfriend, her stupid stepdad got cancer and that deepthroat training she's submitted to probably does something bad to her singing voice. She got aspirations, y'know?

And here's the kicker: the so-called "slut route" sucks because female POV's options suck. It's been a constant source of negative feedback, but they still didn't get the necessary upgrade. What if Robert wasn't just a noodle with an apron, but actually had some personality and didn't try to lunge himself head first into Lena's pussy? What if Seymour wasn't a hand rubbing evil crime baron with a penchant for blackmail? What if Axel wasn't a turbo charged narcissist with violent outbreaks from drinking a bath full of PED's? At least Mike finally graduated from being a recolored Ian stand-in with a cheating flavor in the latest update and had a small detour that shined some light on his background and character. And that happened, what, at the end of six year of development? Did the rich guy from the Nymph event really had to be a dilapidated wrinkled fuck and not some suave hot piece of middle age ass? Not even going to mention Jeremy, because writing a not stereotypical black character is an impossible ask from Eva. I have a theory that if someone manages to show her a black individual with a small to average private parts she's going to dramatically turn to dust or evaporate into a vicious goo.

At some point you can tell the writer mentally checked out of the story, when characters and cameos started appearing in front of Lena, waving their dicks in front of her, literally asking if she's "going to be good/bad."
Maaan, so all of a sudden you are saying exactly what I've been saying for weeks ???? Won't complain.
 
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It's been pointed out already, but Red String is a remastered version of Going Bad. Most of the cast are almost entirely carbon copied from it's predecessor. The karma system of "doing a good" and "doing a bad" was reworked, but the principle remained. The problem is, in Going Bad, the VN that never took itself too seriously, the porn cliches and shallow characters didn't drag the story down, since it was already on that level. Stupid footballer who never takes his hat off, the couple of gangbangers, the drink spiking rapist father of your boyfriend, your own mom - it's whatever, who cares, no judgy, it's trash, so anything goes. The corruption arc is the main driver here, so let's see how that one route unfolds.

But Red String tries to be grounded. It takes itself serious. Like a dumb person idea of HBO series. We've got drama: the main characters are wounded, betrayed people, they're in the market for some soul balm. Ian virginwalks at the beginning, skulking and everything, and Lena is whimpering outside of club, she's tired from playing a dog on a leash for her abusive boyfriend, her stupid stepdad got cancer and that deepthroat training she's submitted to probably does something bad to her singing voice. She got aspirations, y'know?

And here's the kicker: the so-called "slut route" sucks because female POV's options suck. It's been a constant source of negative feedback, but they still didn't get the necessary upgrade. What if Robert wasn't just a noodle with an apron, but actually had some personality and didn't try to lunge himself head first into Lena's pussy? What if Seymour wasn't a hand rubbing evil crime baron with a penchant for blackmail? What if Axel wasn't a turbo charged narcissist with violent outbreaks from drinking a bath full of PED's? At least Mike finally graduated from being a recolored Ian stand-in with a cheating flavor in the latest update and had a small detour that shined some light on his background and character. And that happened, what, at the end of six year of development? Did the rich guy from the Nymph event really had to be a dilapidated wrinkled fuck and not some suave hot piece of middle age ass? Not even going to mention Jeremy, because writing a not stereotypical black character is an impossible ask from Eva. I have a theory that if someone manages to show her a black individual with a small to average private parts she's going to dramatically turn to dust or evaporate into a vicious goo.

At some point you can tell the writer mentally checked out of the story, when characters and cameos started appearing in front of Lena, waving their dicks in front of her, literally asking if she's "going to be good/bad."
It's not like Eva can't write characterisation of her characters. They can turn to good or bad based on your choices even in GGGB. So it's like you are writing their characteristics, it's just that Eva wanted to write ORS they way it is.
 

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And here's the kicker: the so-called "slut route" sucks because female POV's options suck. It's been a constant source of negative feedback, but they still didn't get the necessary upgrade. What if Robert wasn't just a noodle with an apron, but actually had some personality and didn't try to lunge himself head first into Lena's pussy? What if Seymour wasn't a hand rubbing evil crime baron with a penchant for blackmail? What if Axel wasn't a turbo charged narcissist with violent outbreaks from drinking a bath full of PED's?
Answer: none of this would make a lick of difference on so called slut route, because that's specifically Lena treating dudes as walking penises, with no regard for their personality or lack thereof. She just fucks to have fun. Ain't gonna play house with any of them.

edit: as for why the "female POV's options suck", i suspect this is at least in part because EK knows how their largely male playerbase approaches games which include male protagonist. That is, short of mommysboiii-adjacent folks and some outliers, the bulk of them takes deep, screeching offence if any man other than the protagonist they control and self-insert into shows even a minor sign of being genuine competition to what they presume is their god-granted right to be on the top.

If any of those guys was more competent or interesting, you could probably triple the amount of complaints how Ian isn't enough of a 3-meters tall hot shit turbo-chad and instead more of a mediocre dude, that this thread gets already.
 
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