VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[PilotLara]

I noticed two flipped skill_xp gain checkes (10 or more VS 9 max) in chapter9_cindy.rpy. Also, the phone_stats_bar only reflecting Ian's skill_xp stats was confusing and then annoying when playing as Lena. Not sure if that one is just broken for us plebs or if it's been that way for awhile.
Attached are my unofficial hotfixes for chapter9_cindy.rpy & phone_screens.rpy. I included the patch files as well in case anyone is interested in the changes.



For ease of use, I went ahead and repacked scripts.rpa with the gallery hotfixes as well as the unofficial ones to allow you to just overwrite the old scripts.rpa:
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0a352e5f8b63bb3982c97d9b7728af9d313f78bcd80104e7fa631d130d6678d5 OurRedString-v0.9-hotfixes-2021-12-25-001.zip

Big thanks for including the patch files, I'll pass these on so they are fixed upon the release of the revised edition.

 

[Olsens.M]

I agree with pretty much all of that, and would like to add that I was also a bit frustrated that she blows her lid a little even if Ian only kisses Holly and then comes clean with her. Yes, I know Lena forgives him later, but it still seems like a massive overreaction.

First off, it was just a frigging kiss, a secondly I felt a bit pushed into it as a player. They're having a nice conversation, he says something supportive to her, and next thing you know they're kissing. I do think one additional choice to pump the breaks there would have helped a lot. Holly leans in and kisses him, and he can either kiss her back or not.

Again though, I totally agree that Lena's reaction to all this is all about Holly, not herself.

I just want my Ian Lena Holly threesome, dammit!

That is what I want to as well (the 3 some). And if we notice some paths, you can see both liking Holly and Holly liking both. So why make it difficult a good relationship between all 3 of them?
My first gameplay, I made Ian go all for Lena, even though they were not exclusives, and Ian also had sex with Alisson. But lena besides Ian, was having sex almost every night with her flatmate Khatie. So both were kind of exclusive and fucking someone on the side. On my gameplay Lena Kissed Holly instead if Ivy. So She did Kiss Holly before Ian do anything to Holly. And in that night, Holly Kisses Ian. In my gameplay though, Ian have sex with Holly. And that was enough for Lena end up whatever she was having with Ian. So pratically they ended any chance I was expecting of them having a 3some.
That is my point as well, and the reason why I tried other gameplays to see if she (Lena) having a lot of partners if she would forgive Ian, but she never does. Holly on the other hand, is enjoying Ian as much as she wants. So it is lena's only loss. And she ends up pushing away people that can help her when he needs someone to deal with Seymour.

 

[Olsens.M]

Also if anyone else here tried a lot of gameplays, tell me. Why Ian loses all girls once Jeremy fucks them? Alisson only fucks Jeremy when Ian decides to go for Emma. After that, Ian hangs out with Alisson, but she doesn't wanna "go home" with him anymore, it is like she is dating Jeremy from now on. Emma After fucking Jeremy also kinda stops hanging out with Ian. So if Ian allows Jeremy fuck other girls he won't have them anymore, but Jeremy, the NPC can have all girls at the same time he is dating katie. Even Lena, if you get together with holly, will still have a thing with Jeremy who is dating her flatmate, but will end up things with Ian. Like wtf?

 

[Princess Groundhog]

So if Ian allows Jeremy fuck other girls he won't have them anymore

I know, it's awesome!

 

[Olsens.M]

I know, it's awesome!

Once you go Black, you never go back?

 

[Reaurt]

Also if anyone else here tried a lot of gameplays, tell me. Why Ian loses all girls once Jeremy fucks them? Alisson only fucks Jeremy when Ian decides to go for Emma. After that, Ian hangs out with Alisson, but she doesn't wanna "go home" with him anymore, it is like she is dating Jeremy from now on. Emma After fucking Jeremy also kinda stops hanging out with Ian. So if Ian allows Jeremy fuck other girls he won't have them anymore, but Jeremy, the NPC can have all girls at the same time he is dating katie. Even Lena, if you get together with holly, will still have a thing with Jeremy who is dating her flatmate, but will end up things with Ian. Like wtf?

I'm not sure. You can get with Allison after she's had sex with Jeremy, as long as you don't hook up with Emma. You can also have sex with Emma after she's gotten together with Jeremy (drug scene). The only major block is starting a relationship with Lena if she's had sex with Jeremy.

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

That is what I want to as well (the 3 some). And if we notice some paths, you can see both liking Holly and Holly liking both. So why make it difficult a good relationship between all 3 of them?
My first gameplay, I made Ian go all for Lena, even though they were not exclusives, and Ian also had sex with Alisson. But lena besides Ian, was having sex almost every night with her flatmate Khatie. So both were kind of exclusive and fucking someone on the side. On my gameplay Lena Kissed Holly instead if Ivy. So She did Kiss Holly before Ian do anything to Holly. And in that night, Holly Kisses Ian. In my gameplay though, Ian have sex with Holly. And that was enough for Lena end up whatever she was having with Ian. So pratically they ended any chance I was expecting of them having a 3some.
That is my point as well, and the reason why I tried other gameplays to see if she (Lena) having a lot of partners if she would forgive Ian, but she never does. Holly on the other hand, is enjoying Ian as much as she wants. So it is lena's only loss. And she ends up pushing away people that can help her when he needs someone to deal with Seymour.

I feel pretty confident that the best way to stay on track for a Holly/Lena/Ian relationship is to let Lena kiss Holly at Ivy’s place; then let Ian kiss her at the hotel, but not sleep with her; have Lena forgive him because of it; and then take Holly back home to watch a movie as Lena, and choose to kiss her (which she backs out of, but the thought of doing it is planted). And elsewhere making sure Ian and Lena are on track to getting into a relationship.

I don’t think any of them have any experience with polyamorous relationships though, so I expect it to develop slowly. And with the way Ian’s and Lena’s last relationships ended, it will likely be a big thing for them to invite a third person into any relationship.

Having said that, I don’t necessarily think Eva’s got a plan for exactly how it will play out either. But if both Lena and Ian continue developing feelings for Holly now they’re already in a relationship with each other, they have to talk about it at some point.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Also if anyone else here tried a lot of gameplays, tell me. Why Ian loses all girls once Jeremy fucks them? Alisson only fucks Jeremy when Ian decides to go for Emma. After that, Ian hangs out with Alisson, but she doesn't wanna "go home" with him anymore, it is like she is dating Jeremy from now on. Emma After fucking Jeremy also kinda stops hanging out with Ian. So if Ian allows Jeremy fuck other girls he won't have them anymore, but Jeremy, the NPC can have all girls at the same time he is dating katie. Even Lena, if you get together with holly, will still have a thing with Jeremy who is dating her flatmate, but will end up things with Ian. Like wtf?

I have a theory... but it's kind of a stretch.

 

[dundun]

First, the mandatory quote from the Q&A :
About the Holly Trinity, I'm not sure when it will flourish, since I know it will be challenging to implement in the grand scheme of things. But I will give it enough time to develop.

I feel pretty confident that the best way to stay on track for a Holly/Lena/Ian relationship is to let Lena kiss Holly at Ivy’s place; then let Ian kiss her at the hotel, but not sleep with her; have Lena forgive him because of it; and then take Holly back home to watch a movie as Lena, and choose to kiss her (which she backs out of, but the thought of doing it is planted). And elsewhere making sure Ian and Lena are on track to getting into a relationship.

Okay, the newly added not-a-kiss with Lena looks a lot like a build up to something special, but I have some problems with that. Firstly it is unneccessary cruel to force players to not have any scenes with Holly if they are interested in her. Secondly if Holly is not with Ian or Lena she will fall to Ivy which doesn't sound so wholesome to me. Lena can somewhat 'protect' her from Ivy but then Holly will stay timid. Finally trying to add Holly to Lena/Ian will remind Lena of what happened with Cherry.

For me it is a kind of toss up. Ian/Holly + Lena means that Holly must be willing to share her newly won prize, Lena/Holly + Ian seems the most straight forward because Holly desperately wants Ian and the gender switch (to Lena/Axel+Cherry) might placate Lena enough to agree and for Lena/Ian+Holly Lena would have to overcome her Cherry shaped trauma (Which she likely will do. Holly did say Lena should talk to Cherry and EvaKiss wrote in the Q&A that 'Cherry's and Lena's stories are tied')

There might very well be multiple paths to the trinity, or at least threesone scenes. I vaguely remember EvaKiss stating it would be very hard to get there but I might be misremembering that because all I could find in the previous Q&A was 'That sure seems like it could happen... if you play your cards right!'
So there is really only one thing I am certain about, you have to get Holly into pole dancing.

 

[SubDe]

I dont know whats up with this game. Eva used to release on schedule when she was developing gggm. What happened?

 

[Overfoxed]

I dont know whats up with this game. Eva used to release on schedule when she was developing gggm. What happened?

From a development perspective, it seems like there are a lot more moving parts in ORS compared to GGGB. Also I believe EvaKiss has had some personal issues that have stalled development a little, however it's clear work is still active on this game so we just have to be patient.

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

First, the mandatory quote from the Q&A :
About the Holly Trinity, I'm not sure when it will flourish, since I know it will be challenging to implement in the grand scheme of things. But I will give it enough time to develop.


Okay, the newly added not-a-kiss with Lena looks a lot like a build up to something special, but I have some problems with that. Firstly it is unneccessary cruel to force players to not have any scenes with Holly if they are interested in her. Secondly if Holly is not with Ian or Lena she will fall to Ivy which doesn't sound so wholesome to me. Lena can somewhat 'protect' her from Ivy but then Holly will stay timid. Finally trying to add Holly to Lena/Ian will remind Lena of what happened with Cherry.

For me it is a kind of toss up. Ian/Holly + Lena means that Holly must be willing to share her newly won prize, Lena/Holly + Ian seems the most straight forward because Holly desperately wants Ian and the gender switch (to Lena/Axel+Cherry) might placate Lena enough to agree and for Lena/Ian+Holly Lena would have to overcome her Cherry shaped trauma (Which she likely will do. Holly did say Lena should talk to Cherry and EvaKiss wrote in the Q&A that 'Cherry's and Lena's stories are tied')

There might very well be multiple paths to the trinity, or at least threesone scenes. I vaguely remember EvaKiss stating it would be very hard to get there but I might be misremembering that because all I could find in the previous Q&A was 'That sure seems like it could happen... if you play your cards right!'
So there is really only one thing I am certain about, you have to get Holly into pole dancing.

The problem as I see it with a Ian/Holly or Lena/Holly relationship as the starting point, is that the game canonically begins with Ian and Lena meeting and then choosing to explore or not explore their mutual interest. The scenarios where Ian and Holly are dating, and where Lena and Holly have sex in chapter 8 (which I assume would lead to them dating soon), demand that one or both of Lena and Ian choose to not explore that interest (or end it at some point). Whereas a Lena/Ian relationship can involve both of them gradually developing warm feelings for Holly.

I agree that the memories of the Cherry situation is a big obstacle in that scenario, but the difference would be that Lena and Ian both know Holly and can have a similar interest in inviting her into their relationship. And if you play Ian as a faithful guy (except that small slip up with the kiss in the hotel room), I think we’re approaching a point where it should be clear to Lena that he’s not the same kind of guy as Axel (in that particular playthrough).

I vaguely remember the same statement from Eva, but it could also be someone (might have been me, for all I know) unprecisely paraphrasing the quote you found. But I think it makes sense for it to be among the more difficult paths to reach.

 

[Olsens.M]

From a development perspective, it seems like there are a lot more moving parts in ORS compared to GGGB. Also I believe EvaKiss has had some personal issues that have stalled development a little, however it's clear work is still active on this game so we just have to be patient.

Lets start by saying that This game there are 2 protagonists plots that are intertwined to each other, that is like 3x the work of doing only 1. You have to pay attention in 2 plots + whatever comes between them, and if you make one mistake, you have to redo almost everything. Just Imagine!

 

[Olsens.M]

The problem as I see it with a Ian/Holly or Lena/Holly relationship as the starting point, is that the game canonically begins with Ian and Lena meeting and then choosing to explore or not explore their mutual interest. The scenarios where Ian and Holly are dating, and where Lena and Holly have sex in chapter 8 (which I assume would lead to them dating soon), demand that one or both of Lena and Ian choose to not explore that interest (or end it at some point). Whereas a Lena/Ian relationship can involve both of them gradually developing warm feelings for Holly.

I agree that the memories of the Cherry situation is a big obstacle in that scenario, but the difference would be that Lena and Ian both know Holly and can have a similar interest in inviting her into their relationship. And if you play Ian as a faithful guy (except that small slip up with the kiss in the hotel room), I think we’re approaching a point where it should be clear to Lena that he’s not the same kind of guy as Axel (in that particular playthrough).

I vaguely remember the same statement from Eva, but it could also be someone (might have been me, for all I know) unprecisely paraphrasing the quote you found. But I think it makes sense for it to be among the more difficult paths to reach.

Was that a mistake, you meant to say Ian and Lena having sex on chapter 8, or you really meant Lena and Holly having sex, because then, I missed that part and if yes, I have to play again

 

[LiptonMango]

Ey guys, I finally get it. Axel. Lena's ex. Get it? It's in the name.

Just finished my first playthrough, had a lot of fun, maybe a little too vanilla, I need to check less monogamous options, tho I don't like most male parnters for Lena. Axel and Robert seem like assholes. Only the Mark guy from the club seems ok, I don't know if it's possible to date him tho.

Nonetheless the game is superb, vast majority of adult vn's aren't even close. I love the art and the world. Great work.

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

Was that a mistake, you meant to say Ian and Lena having sex on chapter 8, or you really meant Lena and Holly having sex, because then, I missed that part and if yes, I have to play again

I meant Lena and Holly! For that scene to be available, you need to a) make sure Ian isn't involved with Lena or Holly, and b) let Lena show interest in Holly when possible (I can't remember the details, but I think the lena_go_holly-variable needs to reach a certain level — you should check BloodyMares' walkthrough, available from the first page of this thread, for the details). Then when Lena, Holly and Ivy go to Ivy's place after shopping, you need to go home and watch a movie with Holly instead of staying to have another drink. And then finally, when the option comes up, you obviously choose to kiss her. If Lena is dating Ian, she stops herself from doing it, but if she isn't, she kisses Holly, and it escalates from there.

I'd say it's one of the best scenes so far — equal amounts cute and hot. Worth another playthrough if you haven't tried it.

 

[Olsens.M]

I meant Lena and Holly! For that scene to be available, you need to a) make sure Ian isn't involved with Lena or Holly, and b) let Lena show interest in Holly when possible (I can't remember the details, but I think the lena_go_holly-variable needs to reach a certain level — you should check BloodyMares' walkthrough, available from the first page of this thread, for the details). Then when Lena, Holly and Ivy go to Ivy's place after shopping, you need to go home and watch a movie with Holly instead of staying to have another drink. And then finally, when the option comes up, you obviously choose to kiss her. If Lena is dating Ian, she stops herself from doing it, but if she isn't, she kisses Holly, and it escalates from there.

I'd say it's one of the best scenes so far — equal amounts cute and hot. Worth another playthrough if you haven't tried it.

wtf, I even got a gallery mod and it isn't there. time to play this game again. Thanks a lot really. Have been waiting for that, and thought I would only get it on next updates; Thank you Thank you!!!

 

[BloodyMares]

Also if anyone else here tried a lot of gameplays, tell me. Why Ian loses all girls once Jeremy fucks them? Alisson only fucks Jeremy when Ian decides to go for Emma. After that, Ian hangs out with Alisson, but she doesn't wanna "go home" with him anymore, it is like she is dating Jeremy from now on. Emma After fucking Jeremy also kinda stops hanging out with Ian. So if Ian allows Jeremy fuck other girls he won't have them anymore, but Jeremy, the NPC can have all girls at the same time he is dating katie. Even Lena, if you get together with holly, will still have a thing with Jeremy who is dating her flatmate, but will end up things with Ian. Like wtf?

First, with Alison it's not about Jeremy at all. It's about Ian being a dick and hurting Alison's feelings and self-esteem. If Ian was hooking up with Alison, the only thing you need to do not to blow Alison off is to ignore Emma (or be a wingman for Perry). And then Alison goes with you because she wants to and prefers Ian over Jeremy. But the moment she sees Ian making out with Emma, her heart breaks, and it's clear to her that Ian isn't really interested in her as a woman, and only thinks of her as an option B, and if she's gonna be treated like a piece of meat by Ian, she'd return the favor and let Jeremy have her while she gets a piece of his meat to show Ian she won't be crying for him. That sours her opinion of Ian, and she doesn't want to hook up with him anymore, because she wanted him to treat her seriously. She has enough self-respect not to hook up with Ian if his interest in her doesn't stop him from messing with other girls in front of her. She blatantly tells Ian that by hooking up with Emma he made his choice, and now he needs to deal with the consequences.

Second, Jeremy only got to hook up with Emma in Chapter 8. And Emma is still interested in having fun with Ian. They just didn't have time to meet yet for another go (Eva didn't have time to prepare another event with her for Chapter 9). In Chapter 10, I'm sure that Ian will have more content with Emma, even if he encouraged Jeremy to hook up with her.

And I assume you mean Louise by "Katie". Jeremy only gets to keep her if Lena jerks him off during the game at Ivy's place. Otherwise, in any other outcome, Louise breaks up with Jeremy and he becomes single.

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

Adding to BloodyMares’ first point: Alison, like the rest of the female cast except Louise, don’t care about Jeremy at all, while she’s got strong feelings for Ian. So if she’s choosing one guy to be exclusive with, she’ll choose Ian without hesitation. But if she’s choosing one guy to hook up with non-exclusively, she’ll choose Jeremy because she won’t end up having her feelings hurt in the process. And if Ian makes out with Emma and then takes her home, it proves to Alison that it’s the latter choice she’s making. So she’s choosing the gigantic dildo with a human body attached to it. Ian being more than a human-shaped dildo is an advantage in some situations, and a disadvantage in others.

Emma is different, because she’s seemingly not interested in a relationship, and the way Ian takes initiative proves to her that his priorities are the same. And in the long run I bet Ian will get the chance to sleep around more than Jeremy anyway. If you choose to keep the relationships with Lena and Cindy non-romantic, Ian can already be involved with those two plus Minerva and Emma, maybe even Cherry, without any of them likely caring about the others. Ivy, Louise and Jess will probably also be similar alternatives in the future.

Several of those wouldn’t be interested in Jeremy no matter what. And the only woman who’s interested in him romantically, is the one who completely, fundamentally misinterprets his character. I’d say Ian’s options overall are far better than Jeremy’s.

 

[Homemade]

My Wishlist for the events, that should happen in "ORS" before the time skip. Sorry for shitty editing.!

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