VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[italianstallionxxx]

I wish there was a way to help Wade to stop being a sad sack.
Sorry bro i love you but if Cindy Is going to fuck around Is going to be with me and not that fucking psycho Axel.
Sorry bro you just got cucked

 

[mommysboiii]

I'm sorry, I ran through the game many times, but only yesterday I noticed that Jessica can be bad or good. Actually the question is what affects her condition? How to make it good and how to make it bad?))

depends if lena is a good girl than you get good jess or if she is slutty than you get bad jess

 

[shotzpro]

Ian needs to have Stalkfap subscription for that one.

and how do that

 

[lipe2410]

and how do that

I think Lena have to create a Stalkfap account. She will put the link in her peoplegram bio and there will be a scene where Ian will see the link when he is looking her peoplegram.

 

[Vernalcash]

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The bug reports for the Alpha have come and the Beta should be ready in the next few days. But while we're busy with that, I'm making the Alpha version available for the Friends with benefits patrons too, so you can access the new chapter if you don't want to wait.

The Beta version will iron out the various bugs and have the scenes gallery completed, and I'm also preparing some improvements and a whole new extra scene for the complete release. Can you guess which character will it be centered around?

It's gonna be a Robert scene 100%. I hope she makes Emma's scene longer, maybe moving it to after the concert instead of before so they are not so pressed for time.

 

[ffive]

and how do that

During chapter 7, in Ian's masturbation scene, if you choose Look at Lena's pictures and if Lena has a Stalkfap account you'll get option to subscribe to it for 1 coin.

 

[Satiro]

i hope a new Cindy scene with Axel...but the real scene could be Cherry or Minerva

 

[ffive]

A Cherry scene perhaps? On that note, I'm interested in seeing Ian's reaction to Cherry going to Blazer with Axel in ch 11.

This can be particularly interesting if Ian enters love route with Cherry in chapter 9. That meeting was one hell of a way to find out the girl he's set his sight on has apparently gone back to the guy she was in love with and is now allegedly dating him.

 

[jojogeo]

It's gonna be a Robert scene 100%. I hope she makes Emma's scene longer, maybe moving it to after the concert instead of before so they are not so pressed for time.

It's kind of obvious. There is 1 scene still in WIP.

 

[Doppelgang]

AFAIK, that heavier teasing dialogue is available for both an Ian that hasn't slept with Lena (basically interchangeable with Stan) or an Ian that has slept with Lena but:

1. Subscribed to Lena's Stalkerfap (even dirtier if Lena takes special requests from patrons)
and
2. Ian has shown insecurity to get that cuck tag with "one of the best?".

I think it was also the right design decision to not to award a cuck variable for "it turns me on" for exactly the reason you stated. There are people who swing or enjoy showing their S/O off without that masochist cuck element involving getting off at the thought of someone better in the sack banging their partner. Using that to add to a cuck variable could invariably yuck those players' yums and spoil the enjoyment of their playthroughs, which isn't great game design. It seems like the "turns me on" selection will be used as a requirement for some of that content though and will surely affect both Ian's reactions and the conflict/peace of their relationship, but won't railroad players into the cuck path. Which is a better way to handle it, imo.

For the effectiveness of that fetish, I also think it's better design kink-wise for it not to be 100% willing at first, which makes that "one of the best?" choice pretty well-designed. Unlike many games of that genre ["Hello honey I wuld like u for to be big slut now." "....Ok!"], intuitively selecting from behaviors based on both insecurity and arousal is more effective in fulfilling the kink, in which some loss of control provides a spicier element. These sort of games are best designed ideally with a little bit of proverbial mind-reading into player psychology.
Though I have a feeling Eva may go too far into some mean-spirited, professional cringe-porn direction, like she did with the awful Eric doormat route at the end of GGGB. At that point, it's not even a relationship. Just abuse. And it's implausible what would keep both characters together without love and respect for each other.

More could've been done for the variable in earlier phone incidents though. A lot of opportunities for Eva to easily do a quick retcon on invisible stats.

My biggest issues with the pornified version of the kink are the two things you mention: Either the choice to let the partner sleep around / show themselves off etc. is presented as completely trivial and unproblematic for both parts; or it's solely driven by a masochistic desire to humiliate their partner. As you say, that's not even a relationship. Plausible in a toxic relationship that has gradually spiralled out of control for a long time? Maybe, at a stretch. But not at all in a relationship where two persons recently decided to be together because they care for and like each other a lot.

I agree that the "one of the best" choice was really well written/designed. It's the kind of small, but important situation I think often is excellently done in this game. So much of their characters resonate in that scene; Ian's issues from his previous relationship and the insecurity he feels about Lena's modelling job and her exes; and how it can be such a turn-on for Lena to use guys' sexual interest to control them.

Ironically the photoshoot that makes use of the cuck-variable, is a lot closer to the flat porn version. Here Lena's decision to deny Ian seems much more masochistic, and the dynamics between them remind more of Ashley and doormat Eric. I think it would be fairly easy too to tone it down and make it fit better with the previous scene and their whole relationship: Lena decides to deny him as more of a whim to tease him, without necessarily meaning it -> Ian surprisingly takes it seriously and doesn't really object -> Lena instinctively loves how much control she has of the situation, and lets it continue -> Lena is conflicted afterwards, liking how it played out while still acknowledging that it might not be the most healthy way to treat your new boyfriend. If Ian realises that he might have crossed the line when he asks about Axel in the handjob scene, it would be reasonable if Lena did the same when she denies Ian sex and makes him listen to her description of how good it feels to have Robert's cock deep inside of her. As it is now, it's one of the sex scenes that are most clearly breaking the existing boundaries, but still it's among the ones with the least internal monologue.

 

[GrigoriRasputin]

I wish there was a way to help Wade to stop being a sad sack.
Sorry bro i love you but if Cindy Is going to fuck around Is going to be with me and not that fucking psycho Axel.
Sorry bro you just got cucked

Actually there is a route to strengthen their relationship and probably keep them together in the end. At one point you can tell Wade he needs to fight for Cindy (unless this was changed in the remaster).

 

[Massi89]

I haven't read chapter 10 yet, but I am going through the previous chapters again, and damn...

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[ffive]

Actually there is a route to strengthen their relationship and probably keep them together in the end. At one point you can tell Wade he needs to fight for Cindy (unless this was changed in the remaster).

That's in chapter 4 but it only slightly increases Cindy-Wade relationship rating (which can be on level ranging 0-2) and the max rating is obtainable in other ways (like telling Cindy she should bring Wade to the photoshoot when she asks Ian to do it)

 

[mannice431]

So i noticed that for you to embrace Alison in chapter 9 (basically get into a more serious relationship with her) you can't be in love with Lena and you can't be dating Holly.

What gives? Why can i date Lena but can't date Holly? I doubt there's ever gonna be a threesome opportunity involving Alison and Lena (or anyone really if you get serious with her) so i'm assuming it's just meant to create additional drama.

 

[ffive]

What gives? Why can i date Lena but can't date Holly?

I'd presume this is because while variables are named the same their actual use is somewhat different -- lena_dating marks a stage with Lena/Ian hooking up casually while going out. holly_dating is effectively actual dating, and it's treated on par with _love stage for other girls in game script.

 

[italianstallionxxx]

what are other games when you start as a loser and can turn alpha?

 

[desmosome]

I'd presume this is because while variables are named the same their actual use is somewhat different -- lena_dating marks a stage with Lena/Ian hooking up casually while going out. holly_dating is effectively actual dating, and it's treated on par with _love stage for other girls in game script.

What about seymour_dating

 

[Canto Forte]

With whom?

Cindy goes for Axel (Axel steals her just by showing up in the club)
no matter what Wade or Ian do and he gets her nekkid at the drop of the hat,
while Perry always tells Ian he only sees Emm as a friends, nothing more.

These are beyond your power as these girls cuck those two no matter what.

Axel gets Cherry no matter what, Emm will be had by Jeremy no matter what,
Ian can only take her himself by letting JEremy get Alison.

Perry feels cucked by Alison also and she does not care or talk about it.

NTR bull trope is plot armored in this game, as well as rich rapist Seymour,
who is comedy gold as a retarded owner who only knows gangter tactics bullying his
workers and his competition, pitty Lena has no comedy to shove down his throat,
that would have been the novelty, as well as witty quips at the NTR bulls, but
Ian and Lena never get any of those, just boring ”you will not bully/rape me” lines.

 

[PilotLara]

It's kind of obsious. There is 1 scene still in WIP.

That's not true, there are multiple scenes still a WIP in the gallery but all those scenes exist if you play the game itself.
It's a new scene that doesn't have a placeholder in the gallery yet.

 

[ffive]

What about seymour_dating

That one is set to true when Lena signs contract with Seymour. Given what fulfilling the contract involves, it isn't too far off. /s