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Lemix

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I remember one of my saves Ian went to Alison's trip and then to the Cindy photoshoot when he came back (and fuck her after that).
Nice, i was thinking that since you miss 1 event on Cindy side its blocked so i ignored the trip because of it.
 

camube

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But I've seen plenty of real life examples of people flipping out at work, yelling at their boss, etc.
I feel like that actually strengthen my point, at work, not on internship.

As an employee, sure, of course.

I can't fathom a 26 years old loser doing an internship choosing to say "give me a better book boss, this book is shit" to his boss and then write scathing review just to spite that boss.

As an intern I find those 2 choices too unbelievable.
He's an intern, and not even a 22 years old doe-eyed intern either, he's 26, lol.
 

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I hate how Lena treatment of Louise is so inconsistent in this game, they are friends at first, then you either betray her or warn her about her bf, after you fuck her your relationship suffer so much(and not in BDSM kind of way, not talking sex but everything else)
Yeah, it's one thing in the game i don't really like. The severe relationship drop does make sense given Louise's personality, but the way Lena interacts with her regarding it is... ugly. There's never an option to let her down gently, something like "you're my dear friend and i wanted to comfort you when you were really hurt", it's hardcoded to "i just wanted to have some fun with you but now i don't feel like it anymore". And there's like, zero actual interactions friends would have between these two or any attempt to restore/stabilize things. It sucks.
 

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I did not like Alison's character mostly due to her need to be the center of Ian's attention. However, I believe that she only blocks the Holly path completely. Ian can fuck both Cherry and Emma atleast once while on the Alison path. However, I think she turns to Jeremy at the first chance when Ian rejects her which is possibly her play at trying to get Ian jealous enough to pay her some attention.

Fair play to her. She knows what she wants and would give Ian almost anything to get him as her boyfriend.

Not my favorite path to play tho.
I don't even get why Alison the character even likes current Ian. Alison is so driven and motivated as an individual, what does she sees from current Ian.

He's a 26 years old intern that is still a loser. Sure there is "potential" for him to be a successful author, but as it is, he's just Perry without depression (and better physique).

For the record, nothing wrong with Ian per se, but I can't fathom someone with a drive to success like Alison to be so very head over heels for Ian. If Alison's feeling to Ian is more casual fling, like Emma, like if the dynamic is flipped, Emma being the one to "give anything to Ian", I think that would make a more believable story.

Emma is an idealist that's trying to bring change to the local neighborhood, Ian wants to pursuit writing as a passion, it makes more sense if Emma is head over heels to Ian than Alison imo.
 

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I don't even get why Alison the character even likes current Ian. Alison is so driven and motivated as an individual, what does she sees from current Ian.
Alison sees potential in Ian, she mentions as much at some point. She's also old friends with him, so she knows what he's like before breakup with Gillian fucked him up. We can presume Ian was quite different and desirable back then.

It wouldn't surprise me if Alison had wanted Ian for a long time, but didn't make any move on him while they're both in relationships. Only when that's out of the picture she's trying to get his attention. A bit like Cherry was in love with Axel and hoped he'd get together with her after Lena fiasco.
 
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Nice, i was thinking that since you miss 1 event on Cindy side its blocked so i ignored the trip because of it.
I think the only trip that block Cindy's path is the bookfair with Holly. Because Ian loses Wade's birthday party if he go with Holly and the Cindy alley's scene is needed to advance her story with Ian.
 

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Hmm , got a question.
So Ian has two options for his job. Either by doing his best and giving his story or demo to Seymour. Second, by trading with Holly.
So in my Ian×Lena playthrough , Seymour said to Lena about Ian's book and job and that he can make his life miserable by a call( by not accepting him). So, the best choice for Ian in Lena playthrough is to trade books with Holly or giving demo to Seymour?
 
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Lemix

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Yeah, it's one thing in the game i don't really like. The severe relationship drop does make sense given Louise's personality, but the way Lena interacts with her regarding it is... ugly. There's never an option to let her down gently, something like "you're my dear friend and i wanted to comfort you when you were really hurt", it's hardcoded to "i just wanted to have some fun with you but now i don't feel like it anymore". And there's like, zero actual interactions friends would have between these two or any attempt to restore/stabilize things. It sucks.
Whats even more bizzare is the disconnect between sex scenes and her general attitude to her, her sex scenes imo one of the best examples of lesbian BDSM in those types of games, Lena should be power tripping after her previous relationship and they're dynamic with Axel, and she does while they have sex, but outside of it she treats it like it's nothing, hell, she treats her coworker "whats his face" that she fucks on the side alot better, the dude has no personality and cant even make her cum(that his primary job since she only fucks him for stress relief, half of her orgasms are hidden behind stat checks since the dude cant keep up himself) in half the scenes while Louise practically worship her in bed, if she just switched to Master/Slave dynamic fully even outside the sex scenes it would atleast make sense, but they obviously dont have that dynamic most of the time so she is just being an asshole while with the rest of her friends she is all nice and peachy.
Eva should have tied some "wits" checks to "detect" her instability so you can alteast notice when she about to blow up when you gaslight her yet again, but my perceptive Lena just willfuly ignores all those moments for no reason while she can go into self help tirades with other characters like Stan.
 

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I don't even get why Alison the character even likes current Ian. Alison is so driven and motivated as an individual, what does she sees from current Ian.
Ian and Alison go way back. They were friends and liked each other in High school already, but were too shy and/or oblivious to ask each other out. Additionally Alison knows how Ian was before the breakup with Gillian (implied to have been really nasty) fucked him up. And she sees the potential in him.
 

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I don't even get why Alison the character even likes current Ian. Alison is so driven and motivated as an individual, what does she sees from current Ian.

He's a 26 years old intern that is still a loser. Sure there is "potential" for him to be a successful author, but as it is, he's just Perry without depression (and better physique).

For the record, nothing wrong with Ian per se, but I can't fathom someone with a drive to success like Alison to be so very head over heels for Ian. If Alison's feeling to Ian is more casual fling, like Emma, like if the dynamic is flipped, Emma being the one to "give anything to Ian", I think that would make a more believable story.

Emma is an idealist that's trying to bring change to the local neighborhood, Ian wants to pursuit writing as a passion, it makes more sense if Emma is head over heels to Ian than Alison imo.
She obviously has some unresolved feelings for him that goes way back, Emma on the other hand is completly passive to Ian unless he himself does something, i dont really see her being all devoted to him from the start when she is more like Jeremy if anything, from her stories and other people opinions on her she is very casual about sex and just goes with the flow, despite what the game tells us about her liking perry when you fuck her she obviously aware about his feelings since she brings it up, but she hardly cares since he doesnt make a move unlike you, so i dont really see her running after someone herself.
 

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Ian and Alison go way back. They were friends and liked each other in High school already, but were too shy and/or oblivious to ask each other out. Additionally Alison knows how Ian was before the breakup with Gillian (implied to have been really nasty) fucked him up. And she sees the potential in him.
yeah i've seen that exact same stories more than a couple times in real life and the Alisons either grow up or prioritize their own goals over their Ians given their driven personality.

Yes they still harbor deep feelings for their Ians, but not to the extent of this game's Alison for this game's Ian. Given that this game's Ian is a 26 years old intern that wants to pursuit writing a book still, where in contrast, this game's Alison have a 2-3 years deadline to 30 years old to achieve her goals.

This game's Ian doesn't even want to be an employee, he just wants to be an author or die trying.
 

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yeah i've seen that exact same stories more than a couple times in real life and the Alisons either grow up or prioritize their own goals over their Ians given their driven personality.
Alison's personality includes "guys being her kryptonite" and she evidently loses her cold, calculating demeanor when it comes to relationships. She isn't a robot.

She's also in pretty bad spot emotionally herself, given her break up with Milo. It's not that surprising she isn't acting all that rationally.
 
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I think Mike is much more of an interesting character than Jeremy. If his girlfriend is introduced then it will be clear and fun.
THe whole Mike thing makes very little sense to me given Lena's supposed PTSD about cheating in relationship, but giving zero fucks about pulling the same shit she's vilifying Cherry for.
 

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So after taking my time and getting the open relationship "ian_lena_open" variable in Chap 9... I'm very disappointed to see that it doesn't actually DO anything in Chapter 10.

Peeking at the code, it doesn't seem like there's any part of Chapter 10 that looks up that variable at all! The game just basically goes "Yeah Ian and Lena are a couple now." without any nuance for the open part of it.
 
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