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VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

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zonk4411 said:
Been down several paths, but still struggling to get Holly on the most "bad" path -- that is, most sexually active, most loosened up, ditching the glasses if possible, etc. etc.

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Any ideas on the best path for that?
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My advices are:
Taking the choices that make her want to become like Lena.
Having Lena on the max Sexy/sluty path of course.
When they are with Ivy, siding with Ivy and don't protect Holly.
Make Lena thinking about Holly while masturbating.
When they are all three to gether may Lena or Ivy kiss her.
The second time when they are at Ivy's place, go all on Holly (Theesome possible if Lena has 6 and above in sexy stat and think about Holly before.).
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I think that from this point Ian should be a bit surprised to see the behaviour changes in Holly. :p
 
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dontcarewhateverno said:
I guess your enjoyment of having to do it again depends on your excitement to do another complete play-through. Where-as some of us prefer to save at specific major story branches we care about and replay from there. It's great that it adds to your immersion, but it doesn't seem like a "works as designed" situation that was intentional and I'm not sure if I'd call it good game design if it were.

Not saying there shouldn't be a challenge though in any puzzle or riddle added to a game. Just that those challenges that require a full additional playthrough, inherent in any VN sort of story, should rule logic and/or skill over chance or subjective experience. You don't even need a puzzle or riddle in a vn. Most don't have one, at least not one that spans 50%+ of the game. But if it's there, it should be well-crafted and balanced.

I'm separating that from standard choice-based decisions that affect a story which aren't in puzzle form. Those can be a lot more loose, of course, since they're completely based on story telling. (With the exception of illogical storytelling based on bad writing, which happens more often than not in AVNs as the majority tend to be written by amateurs with poor writing skill and little understanding of story structure).
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i actually agree with you in essence. There is no fundamental rule stating that Visual Novels have to have 2 playthrough or more to get the best ending. But it is a thing in Japanese VNs and it still is.

I don't think Eva aims for that either, but I do think the inadvertent result that average players would get average score on Ian's book and not having the best book ending is actually more immersive, in a way.
 
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GrigoriRasputin said:
I will say that I was under the impression an excellent novel would be striking a balance between following troops and going off the beaten path. So the trope option would give + points and the random options would give - points, with the goal being to end up somewhere in the middle.

I was also hoping that Wits would contribute to the book. Even with the wrong choices, it'd be nice if someone who prioritized Wits could still salvage the book. After all, a talented mind can make any set of tropes interesting in my opinion.

As it is now, pursuing Wits feels like a waste of time other than for "roleplaying" reasons.
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Unfortunately it's the same for the song writing - the "correct" choices are obvious, but end up sounding more like a dime-a-dozen sheeranesque/chemical romance song vs more abstract/profound choices - then you get hit with the SHOULD I KEEP IT THIS WAY?

The first time I played, I was really hoping the novel would have deep impact on the overall story - it would make sense if it guided the overarching story, aka if your novel is about romantic love but ends in defeat, at the end Ian doesnt get the girl. Then it'd be more of a Leap of Faith style choice-making, i.e. "kinetic but with some choice" where it's not difficult for the player to chose a route; the game asks them - what do they really want?
 
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GrigoriRasputin said:
As it is now, pursuing Wits feels like a waste of time other than for "roleplaying" reasons.
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Intelligence gates a number of dialogue options which increase other attributes (typically charisma) or relationship scores, so it's hardly a waste.
 
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lucadiadis said:
She has been designed based on the frames of porn actress Abella Danger, so EK took a lot of facial expressions from her videos.
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Cool, I checked her out and I think you are absolutely right about that.
Any other characters based on real life people?
 
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qwermoop said:
Man, Ian can be such a dick...If you mess around with Alison and you confronted with Milo you can do this:
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Poor Milo...
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Screw Milo. I guy like him waste his chances with a goddes like Alison simply deserve be played like a fool and then be taken down with a good jiu-jitsu technique
 
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I had thought the gorgeous Emma looked Jewish. Before I was done with this game due to insane restarts. Was a $5 sponsor but fuck that after that shit.
 
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ffive said:
Intelligence gates a number of dialogue options which increase other attributes (typically charisma) or relationship scores, so it's hardly a waste.
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I haven't had much trouble raising my Charisma and other stats while mostly ignoring Wits. And from my experience, most dialogues that offer a "better option" for high Wits will have the same for Charisma as well.

Other than Ian/Holly or an artistic Ian/Lena, there seems to be little reason to prioritize Wits vs Charisma.

Does Athletics score affect the outcome of the spar with Jeremy? If so, it should be the same for Wits and the book.
 
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