VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

mommysboiii · Mar 30, 2023

monk_56 said:
Anytime someone forms a reasonable criticism you roll out a hyperbolic AF straw man argument.

Your love of cuckoldry has laser-vision; but your argumentative skills are blind and trying to see through 50 feet of concrete in a pitch black room.

Will definitely suit the game's overall vibe though if Ian's routes continue to get hard shut down if he gets in a relationship. He's designed to be super-fucking average. All the lustier / hotter routes are reserved for the larger more attractive men.

Maybe once he is a successful author he can finally get some more dynamic route content. How's that for gritty realism. Gotta be a successful author raking in huge amounts of cash before you can get some goddamed mff scenes and not have all your routes closing on every turn

maybe this titels are more of your liking

Ian takes the red pill?
Ian in hustler university?
Ian in jail?
Ian fighting the matrix?

ffive · Mar 30, 2023

fatpussy123 said:
I will concede that. Lena compared to Ashley the protagonist from Eva Kiss' first game is a much worse written character. i think the issue stems from her being the ex of Axel, the ultimate gigachad.

I don't think she's written worse; she's certainly written different (which matches what Eva Kiss said was going for, something different from previous game) and people who are looking for the typical corruption arc may not like it, but personally i find this a refreshing change from the usual tropes/story arc of yet another Holly getting her corruption up.

The idea Lena is already a sexually developed character from the moment Ian meets her also puts an interesting spin on the talk she has with Ian in the beginning, about Axel being overly jealous etc. Because it means a possibility Axel had some actual, valid reasons for his jealousy :v

aykarin · Mar 30, 2023

monk_56 said:
Until she tells Ian she is lusting after that BBC in chapter 9 or w/e .

You are wrong. She doesn't tell anything like that to Ian if you dated her from the beginning as a romantic option and not just as a fuckbuddy.

Chalker · Mar 31, 2023

fatpussy123 said:
I mean it makes sense for a semi-realistic game the average guy, who Ian is, has a harder time getting into threesomes with literal models. Comparing Ian to Axel is like comparing apples to the whole goddamn fruit section. Lena on the other hand starts off already very desirable. Hot as fuck, artistic, and a model. What guy wouldnt want a piece of that. Lena obviously has a head start. That isnt to say Ian hasnt or wont get into crazy sexual situations. Already at the end of the last chapter he can begin organising a FFM threesome with Lena, the same chapter he can outperform Jeremy in a MMF threesome.

From a writing perspective it makes sense why Lena content is favoured to be more sexual and corruption based. As an example take the scenario man corrupts woman and put that into a porn game narrative. If the perspective is on the man he doesnt experience character growth. He starts Chad and ends up Chad with a corrupted woman companion. The way to give him growth would be to start the story a loser and over time he becomes the Chad. I think thats whats happening in ORS, for example, Ian can slowly become more of a dom to Lena, bust nuts into Alison and make her bark, get rougher with Holly, make Cindy keep cheating, etc. But his growth into Chad is too slow for a lot of people so I see where a lot of people are coming from. If the perspective is shifted to be on the woman, the character arc is obvious, she starts off uncorrupted and becomes corrupted over time. This is kinda complciated tthough because in ORS the perspective is on both characters and theres multiple characters with multiple routes.

I think one way to look at it is Lena content more favours corruption and Ians content more favours romance, but both characters have love and courruption in their content one way or another.

so overall,

Lena is the writers Mary Sue perfect self insert.
Ian is an average joe bound to the realms of mediocrity.

Lerd0 · Mar 31, 2023

Chalksis Stella said:
Ian is an average joe bound to the realms of mediocrity.

..only if u play him like that......

Chalker · Mar 31, 2023

Lerd0 said:
..only if u play him like that......

You are discouraged and inconvenienced from playing him any other way tho.

Lerd0 · Mar 31, 2023

Chalksis Stella said:
You are discouraged and inconvenienced from playing him any other way tho.

Chalker · Mar 31, 2023

Lerd0 said:
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Can you play Lena as a cuckquean? No. Can you play Lena as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? pretty much.

Can you play Ian as a cuck? Yes. Can you play Ian as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? no you can't.

Lerd0 · Mar 31, 2023

Chalksis Stella said:
Can you play Lena as a cuckquean? No. Can you play Lena as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? pretty much.

Can you play Ian as a cuck? Yes. Can you play Ian as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? no you can't.

estrada777 · Mar 31, 2023

Donjoe81 said:
Thx for the port, love your work . I experienced at least 20 hard crashes throughout the playthrough.
I later played around with the settings a bit, but still had the same issues. It´s not a dealbreaker, just a bit annoying and just wanted to let you know.

Without any logs, I can't tell what those are. I don't play every game that I port.

ffive · Mar 31, 2023

Chalksis Stella said:
Ian is an average joe bound to the realms of mediocrity.

If by mediocrity you mean having sex with nearly any and all girls he bothers to speak with, including professional models, then yes.

Something tells me quite a few people around here would kill for this kind of mediocrity.

ffive · Mar 31, 2023

Chalksis Stella said:
You are discouraged and inconvenienced from playing him any other way tho.

Maybe play the game first for yourself, instead of basing your opinions on what people say in this thread. Then you'll have a better idea of things you belive are discouraged or inconvenienced from. If any.

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Chalksis Stella said:
Can you play Lena as a cuckquean? No. Can you play Lena as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? pretty much.

Can you play Ian as a cuck? Yes. Can you play Ian as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? no you can't.

Lena also has limitations applied for her routes -- e.g. she can't mix full Ian and Jeremy actions, or Ian and Holly. She automatically breaks her hookup with Mike if she gets in romantic relationship with Ian. So, no. Lena also can't "fuck everyone in the city (...) without locking any paths".

Chalker · Mar 31, 2023

ffive said:
Maybe play the game first for yourself, instead of basing your opinions on what people say in this thread. Then you'll have a better idea of things you belive are discouraged or inconvenienced from. If any.

The fact the game has a cuck path but not a cuckquean path is discouraging enough.

ffive · Mar 31, 2023

Chalksis Stella said:
The fact the game has a cuck path but not a cuckquean path is discouraging enough.

Again, you're complaining about half-completed game. It might be worth to remember that the cuck path for Ian only becomes a thing in Chapter 10 i.e. literally the latest update before the new chapter prologue. As such all whining how absolutely for sure there isn't going to be equivalent for Lena is really premature.

Chalker · Mar 31, 2023

ffive said:
Again, you're complaining about half-completed game. It might be worth to remember that the cuck path for Ian only becomes a thing in Chapter 10 i.e. literally the latest update before the new chapter prologue. As such all whining how absolutely for sure there isn't going to be equivalent for Lena is really premature.

Don't think starting a game for a path that has an unconfirmed chance of existing isn't exactly what most people do.

ffive · Mar 31, 2023

Chalksis Stella said:
Don't think starting a game for a path that has an unconfirmed chance of existing isn't exactly what most people do.

Most people play a game not for chance of specific path but to experience what it has to offer.

Chalker · Mar 31, 2023

ffive said:
Most people play a game not for chance of specific path but to experience what it has to offer.

and what it has to offer sounds like something I'm not exactly interested in.

ffive · Mar 31, 2023

Chalksis Stella said:
and what it has to offer sounds like something I'm not exactly interested in.

Then you can either play it to find out whether your impression is correct, or don't and keep making poorly informed claims. The latter option is a bit silly, though.

fatpussy123 · Mar 31, 2023

Chalksis Stella said:
Don't think starting a game for a path that has an unconfirmed chance of existing isn't exactly what most people do.

Never seen someone complain over no cuckquean path. It's obviously a rarer kink than normal cucking. Complaining about it's absence seems backwards, would be like someone going into a maledom power fantasy game and complaining about a lack femdom content

Chalker · Mar 31, 2023

fatpussy123 said:
Never seen someone complain over no cuckquean path. It's obviously a rarer kink than normal cucking. Complaining about it's absence seems backwards, would be like someone going into a maledom power fantasy game and complaining about a lack femdom content

that isn't the only thing I'm complaining about.

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