Thank you for the quick reply, I'll definitely give it another shot that all sounds quite promising.
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I definitely agree with you. I get similar vibes from her (them?) as early Cro, only to an as yet less extreme extent: the end justifies the means.
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There is a continuous character development throughout the story. This is true for every character, even those who look a bit like comic relief at first, or those who feel like sworn enemies.
For example I couldn't stand Ashley at first. Too high energy, too clingy. Eventually she hits you with the reasons of being that intense and I couldn't help but relate.
I think this is a common theme about the criticisms of the game. It takes a while to get coherent. Even the protagonist acts in ways that are very.. odd. The narration elements paint a picture which is pretty false. For example, when CJ first unlocks his powers, the narrator says that essentially all weakness is purged from him and his personality changes from meek to flashy and dominant. Yet.. it's not really the case. He becomes a bit more assertive but he still falls into certain patterns that don't fit that desciption and the resolution/explanation comes significantly later.
So the reader has to constantly challenge the opinions presented, of the actors and the narration.
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I love this VN to pieces, but I concede that the early chapters may have lost me and I only stuck with it because it was recommended by someone who knows me well. CJ in particular really ground my gears. His arrogant brainlet persona made him a massive twat and I wanted to dunk him in the river. Worse, he was opposed to Cro' and Hayato, who were much more interesting.
Thankfully, he drops the act and his real self is mostly as he was in the prologue: A simple, chill, kindhearted young man who would be content with his loving family, if only the supernatural weren't constantly beating down the front door. I empathize deeply with his self esteem issues and his struggle to enjoy the life he has while dealing with all the problems it creates. Chad is a compelling protagonist, but damn if his first 20 chapters didn't fucking krill me.
Thankfully, he drops the act and his real self is mostly as he was in the prologue: A simple, chill, kindhearted young man who would be content with his loving family, if only the supernatural weren't constantly beating down the front door. I empathize deeply with his self esteem issues and his struggle to enjoy the life he has while dealing with all the problems it creates. Chad is a compelling protagonist, but damn if his first 20 chapters didn't fucking krill me.
To me it feels like CJ always acts like with the girls interrests in mind, even the flashy outgoing clown-like persona.
Despite the fact that it made him look like a clown it was still refreshing? energetic? Im not sure how to describe it but it distracted from pressing issues and showcased some kind of possitivity for everyone.
All of them are kinda unhappy with the status quo before he came back, its like everything was gray and he brought the colour back. And even not considering this symbolic its important to consider that he's not really a human and his influences for the last years were Sarah (
) and his dad KEK.But yeah, his whole act, persona and desire seems to be to support the girls in whatever way possible even when it makes him look like a clown. And he has the confidence for it, hes only really worried what people close to him think about him.
CJ always feels to me like someone who deliberatly put a filter(?) in lack of a better word on himself, or an earlier version of him did that. Like a omnipotent entity forcing to reduce the own omnipotence to give the rest of existence something like a free will.
He doesnt want this amount of influence and power. At least not alone? He doesnt feel worthy of it. So far we never saw the true amount of CJ's power i guess, it feels like he's restrciting himself all the time.
Cro revealed a lot of stuff to us already, in theory is apparently able to command all fairys and again he tries to not use it and instead giving them free will.
I think in the Theresa finale we see the "true/unrestriced" CJ for a short amount of time when he subdues Leah and Victoria, he's forced to strip them of their free will and he hates it. We dont really know how far this power extends, could he have even subdued the goddesses?
I think he feels like (and probably warranted) that getting to solutions soley by using his own power doesnt lead to the solution he's looking for and im pretty sure he (probably subconscious?) knows it.
Maybe trusting soley on his own omnipotence/power lead to whatever made the last court fall apart.
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Just started the latest update... um... who are these people again? I think the red and orange haired girls are Keiran's sisters? Who's Gloria and Sophie?
Edit: Omfg... CUUUUTE!
Edit: wait, are Sophie and Gloria from Tropicali? I feel like that's where Gloria is from but i don't remember Sophie, is she in the story later than the first release? Cause that's all i've played of that one.
Edit: Omfg... CUUUUTE!
Edit: wait, are Sophie and Gloria from Tropicali? I feel like that's where Gloria is from but i don't remember Sophie, is she in the story later than the first release? Cause that's all i've played of that one.
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Gloria is the [REDACTED] (sister..) of the Tropicali MC and more like a cameo and Sophie is new and just another girl from Sarah’s and Ashley’s swimming class as far as I’m aware.Just started the latest update... um... who are these people again? I think the red and orange haired girls are Keiran's sisters? Who's Gloria and Sophie?
Edit: Omfg... CUUUUTE!
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Edit: wait, are Sophie and Gloria from Tropicali? I feel like that's where Gloria is from but i don't remember Sophie, is she in the story later than the first release? Cause that's all i've played of that one.
I really liked her and hope she becomes a future LI.
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I wouldn't be surprised that she will betray MC(her sun) and absorb most power of him, and become the final boss.
I don’t think that’s possible.
I would rather say Tsukkiko still has to learn and grow as a entity, but i think a real betrayal and taking actions which damage CJ is impossible as long as Jamie is a major part of her.
Something something Play Tropicali By Story AnonJust started the latest update... um... who are these people again? I think the red and orange haired girls are Keiran's sisters? Who's Gloria and Sophie?
Edit: Omfg... CUUUUTE!
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Edit: wait, are Sophie and Gloria from Tropicali? I feel like that's where Gloria is from but i don't remember Sophie, is she in the story later than the first release? Cause that's all i've played of that one.
Sophie is a LR character.
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I have been playing for a week. Still in chapter 14 and haven't managed to beat my meat once but it's a great game lmao. Worth Checking out for the story alone
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When you finish chapter 15 you'll be at ~10% of the current game content
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So this arc is shaping up to be uncharacteristically intricate.
Subplots:
1. Aine and Cro.
This plotline has been going on for some time and with the new context in the last few updates, it seems to me that getting a 6th Goddess isn't out of the question at this point. Tsukiko says that a Goddess is the sum of her parts (shards). We have a lot of compatible shards to make a new one. Cro, Aine, Kieran, Mizaki, potentially the lost fairy sisters and possibly Kieran's siblings.
2. Aine and her lost fairy sisters.
So now both MC and Keiran have seen what seems to be Aine's fairy sister. I'm not 100% sure that it's actually a sister and not something more complex, like Aine's initial form, or even a shard if that's applicable, but for all intends and purposes, she is a new and unexplored character.
3. Kieran's bonding.
I have the distinct sense that there isn't a single reliable narrator on this issue. The explanations are way too abstract, the "control" aspect isn't exactly explained, and the size of Cro's absence doesn't seem measurable, so if Aine can fill it.. I supposed that there are more things that can fill it.
4. Kieran and Ashley.
I bet that Keiran's pep talk is foreshadowing.
- The only one who managed to unlock Ashley's powers so far, is Cro.
- Keiran is still touched by Cro even if she isn't possessed anymore.
- In Auxo's flashback Mizaki and Ashley were twins.
So I expect that when Kieran and Ashley train together, something very interesting will happen.
5. Kieran and her sisters.
Considering how much drama the game builds in this relationship, I think it will turn out bigger than it seems. I actually wouldn't be surprised if almost everyone in Kei's line is related to Hebe in an important manner, considering that Kei herself has the blue-green eyes. It would also be ironic that half of Asshole Grandpa's line would be touched by a Goddess.
Additionally the game brought back the Cursed Girl (which looks like Stacey to me) and the older CJ-Looking bandana biker guy who seems to have some relationship with Ruriko.
Subplots:
1. Aine and Cro.
This plotline has been going on for some time and with the new context in the last few updates, it seems to me that getting a 6th Goddess isn't out of the question at this point. Tsukiko says that a Goddess is the sum of her parts (shards). We have a lot of compatible shards to make a new one. Cro, Aine, Kieran, Mizaki, potentially the lost fairy sisters and possibly Kieran's siblings.
2. Aine and her lost fairy sisters.
So now both MC and Keiran have seen what seems to be Aine's fairy sister. I'm not 100% sure that it's actually a sister and not something more complex, like Aine's initial form, or even a shard if that's applicable, but for all intends and purposes, she is a new and unexplored character.
3. Kieran's bonding.
I have the distinct sense that there isn't a single reliable narrator on this issue. The explanations are way too abstract, the "control" aspect isn't exactly explained, and the size of Cro's absence doesn't seem measurable, so if Aine can fill it.. I supposed that there are more things that can fill it.
4. Kieran and Ashley.
I bet that Keiran's pep talk is foreshadowing.
- The only one who managed to unlock Ashley's powers so far, is Cro.
- Keiran is still touched by Cro even if she isn't possessed anymore.
- In Auxo's flashback Mizaki and Ashley were twins.
So I expect that when Kieran and Ashley train together, something very interesting will happen.
5. Kieran and her sisters.
Considering how much drama the game builds in this relationship, I think it will turn out bigger than it seems. I actually wouldn't be surprised if almost everyone in Kei's line is related to Hebe in an important manner, considering that Kei herself has the blue-green eyes. It would also be ironic that half of Asshole Grandpa's line would be touched by a Goddess.
Additionally the game brought back the Cursed Girl (which looks like Stacey to me) and the older CJ-Looking bandana biker guy who seems to have some relationship with Ruriko.