Overlord H + (Development Thread)

[jacket2010]

Hola, primero que nada, me encanta tu trabajo y ojalá hubiera más juegos +18 de overlord como el tuyo,

Bueno aquí van mis sugerencias

1: primero qué nada sugiero que se le agrege más tiempo a Zesshi Zetsumei [la chica mitad humano mitad elfo] siento
que estuvo muy poco tiempo en pantalla, [creo que solo tuvo como 2 o quizás 3 escenas sexuales, no me acuerdo realmente cuantas escenas tuvo,] ni siquiera pudimos ver al hijo/hija que tuvo, por lo cual creo que sería bueno que tuviera más tiempo en pantalla, también su hijo/hija podría tener una escena entrenando con cassandra [la hija de clementine] ya que ambas madres quieren que sus descendientes sean lo más fuerte posible, por lo cual podrían llegar hacerse buenos amigos,

2: aquí sugiero que se le de contenido a un personaje que personalmente creo que por lo menos tuvo que tener una escena sexual [aunque no sea con ainz] y esa es Enri Emmot, personalmente creo que ella tiene un diseño bastante atractivo como para dejarlo pasar, su personalidad es bastante linda y pienso que podría congeniar con ainz en cuanto se refiere a ser nueva en el puesto de gobernante, ya que si no mal recuerdo que en algún lugar se dijo que Enri es algo adicta al sexo y que Nfirea necesitaba tomar Posiones para Seguirle el ritmo, [sugiero que pongas opciones para darles consejos a Nfirea para que asi logre conquistar a Enri o darle consejos erróneos para que luego así sea el jugador quien la conquiste romanticamente hablando y así hacerla su esposa y madre de un hijo/hija] porfa considera en especial esto,

3: una sugerencia en cuanto a los hijos de ainz es que podrías hacer algo parecido a lo que hizo el creador de corrupted kingdom, ya que los hijos del protagonista de ese juego están en un área especifica donde el jugador puede interactuar con ellos, así que sugiero que le eches un vistazo al juego por si quieres tener una mejor visión de como quieres que el jugador interactue con los hijos de ainz,

4: personalmente creo que debería haber ávido una misión para conquistar al reino de la teocracia slane, [esto es algo más por mi pequeño TOC de no poder conquistar esa zona y que sea el único lugar que no esté en rojo] recordemos que en el anime y el manga ellos fueron los que intentaron lavarle el cerebro a shalltear, por lo cual no creo que sea buena idea dejarle campar a sus anchas, incluso creo que podrías usar al personaje de Zesshi Zetsumei para lograr esto, y creo que sería algo asi

[ainz: Zesshi, si quieres ganarte mi confíanza y el derecho a llevar a mi descendiente en tu vientre, tendrás que destruir a la teocracia slane,

Zesshi:si el precio a pagar para llevar tu hijo dontro mio es destruir al reino qué me ayudo a crecer, qué así sea,]

5: creo que Nigredo y Rubedo deberían tener posibles rutas en el remaster, incluso podría haber una escena donde nigredo, albedo y rubedo estén satisfacciendo sexualmente a ainz

Y eso seria todo creo, como ya dije, tu trabajo me encanta, ojalá y logres lo que te propongas

 

[Winterfire]

Hola, primero que nada, me encanta tu trabajo y ojalá hubiera más juegos +18 de overlord como el tuyo,

Bueno aquí van mis sugerencias

1: primero qué nada sugiero que se le agrege más tiempo a Zesshi Zetsumei [la chica mitad humano mitad elfo] siento
que estuvo muy poco tiempo en pantalla, [creo que solo tuvo como 2 o quizás 3 escenas sexuales, no me acuerdo realmente cuantas escenas tuvo,] ni siquiera pudimos ver al hijo/hija que tuvo, por lo cual creo que sería bueno que tuviera más tiempo en pantalla, también su hijo/hija podría tener una escena entrenando con cassandra [la hija de clementine] ya que ambas madres quieren que sus descendientes sean lo más fuerte posible, por lo cual podrían llegar hacerse buenos amigos,

2: aquí sugiero que se le de contenido a un personaje que personalmente creo que por lo menos tuvo que tener una escena sexual [aunque no sea con ainz] y esa es Enri Emmot, personalmente creo que ella tiene un diseño bastante atractivo como para dejarlo pasar, su personalidad es bastante linda y pienso que podría congeniar con ainz en cuanto se refiere a ser nueva en el puesto de gobernante, ya que si no mal recuerdo que en algún lugar se dijo que Enri es algo adicta al sexo y que Nfirea necesitaba tomar Posiones para Seguirle el ritmo, [sugiero que pongas opciones para darles consejos a Nfirea para que asi logre conquistar a Enri o darle consejos erróneos para que luego así sea el jugador quien la conquiste romanticamente hablando y así hacerla su esposa y madre de un hijo/hija] porfa considera en especial esto,

3: una sugerencia en cuanto a los hijos de ainz es que podrías hacer algo parecido a lo que hizo el creador de corrupted kingdom, ya que los hijos del protagonista de ese juego están en un área especifica donde el jugador puede interactuar con ellos, así que sugiero que le eches un vistazo al juego por si quieres tener una mejor visión de como quieres que el jugador interactue con los hijos de ainz,

4: personalmente creo que debería haber ávido una misión para conquistar al reino de la teocracia slane, [esto es algo más por mi pequeño TOC de no poder conquistar esa zona y que sea el único lugar que no esté en rojo] recordemos que en el anime y el manga ellos fueron los que intentaron lavarle el cerebro a shalltear, por lo cual no creo que sea buena idea dejarle campar a sus anchas, incluso creo que podrías usar al personaje de Zesshi Zetsumei para lograr esto, y creo que sería algo asi

[ainz: Zesshi, si quieres ganarte mi confíanza y el derecho a llevar a mi descendiente en tu vientre, tendrás que destruir a la teocracia slane,

Zesshi:si el precio a pagar para llevar tu hijo dontro mio es destruir al reino qué me ayudo a crecer, qué así sea,]

5: creo que Nigredo y Rubedo deberían tener posibles rutas en el remaster, incluso podría haber una escena donde nigredo, albedo y rubedo estén satisfacciendo sexualmente a ainz

Y eso seria todo creo, como ya dije, tu trabajo me encanta, ojalá y logres lo que te propongas

1. Little screen time for zesshi cannot be helped as that'll always be a heroine towards the end of the game, whereas Albedo throws yourself at you on the first minute of the game. When comparing the two, Albedo will always be getting the most scenes, or anyone else already available in Nazarick (since Albedo has two periods in the story where she is not in Nazarick, and therefore it balances out with the other characters).

2. I am absolutely against NTR. For Enri, I had planned a side alchemy game with Nfirea as protagonist, wrote a game design document for it and even some drafts, but I have to yet make the game itself due to how much time my current projects are taking.

3. The children (grown up version of them) will play an almost main role in the sequel, as each child would have their own little arc in each of the world they have been sent to.
Since it is quite time-consuming to do such a thing, I will probably put the choice for each arc in a patreon poll or something.

4. The remaster will be a pure VN with no sandbox elements, so there will be no maps or areas to conquer, if not shown as images/cgs shown to ease the reading of a scene.
Some areas are left untouched because all of that stuff is meant to happen in a future sequel, for instance the Troll Kingdom sits quietly to avoid attracting attention, and only after Ainz and the others are gone it begins to create chaos as after all that time they are left hungry.

5. Nigredo has already a route + child, and it will be the same in the remaster... Although, the remaster will keep her canon appearance.

 

[jacket2010]

1. Little screen time for zesshi cannot be helped as that'll always be a heroine towards the end of the game, whereas Albedo throws yourself at you on the first minute of the game. When comparing the two, Albedo will always be getting the most scenes, or anyone else already available in Nazarick (since Albedo has two periods in the story where she is not in Nazarick, and therefore it balances out with the other characters).

2. I am absolutely against NTR. For Enri, I had planned a side alchemy game with Nfirea as protagonist, wrote a game design document for it and even some drafts, but I have to yet make the game itself due to how much time my current projects are taking.

3. The children (grown up version of them) will play an almost main role in the sequel, as each child would have their own little arc in each of the world they have been sent to.
Since it is quite time-consuming to do such a thing, I will probably put the choice for each arc in a patreon poll or something.

4. The remaster will be a pure VN with no sandbox elements, so there will be no maps or areas to conquer, if not shown as images/cgs shown to ease the reading of a scene.
Some areas are left untouched because all of that stuff is meant to happen in a future sequel, for instance the Troll Kingdom sits quietly to avoid attracting attention, and only after Ainz and the others are gone it begins to create chaos as after all that time they are left hungry.

5. Nigredo has already a route + child, and it will be the same in the remaster... Although, the remaster will keep her canon appearance.

Ya somos dos en cuanto al desagrado del NTR, pero personalmente pienso que es una lastima que Enri no tenga una escena en este juego, personalmente Nfirea nunca se me a hecho un personaje interesante, pero bueno al fin del día es tu eres el creador del juego



Ah otra cosa, se quitara lo de no poder tener otra relación si ya comenzaste una al inicio del juego? Ejemplo, si eliges tener una relación con albedo al comienzo del juego no se podrá tener ninguna otra relación con algún otro personaje hasta avanzado un poco en el juego,

 

[Winterfire]

Ah otra cosa, se quitara lo de no poder tener otra relación si ya comenzaste una al inicio del juego? Ejemplo, si eliges tener una relación con albedo al comienzo del juego no se podrá tener ninguna otra relación con algún otro personaje hasta avanzado un poco en el juego,

Overlord H has a harem route, which begins in S2 I believe, however the remaster will have only the Harem route which begins earlier in the game. Albedo will always be the first, and Shalltear will be the second.
This change is due to the fact that the sequel (What I planned so far) would begin in a harem setting as children will play a big role in the sequel, and the game would be quite boring and lacking heavily in content if some playthroughs only had 1 child.

 

[jacket2010]

Overlord H has a harem route, which begins in S2 I believe, however the remaster will have only the Harem route which begins earlier in the game. Albedo will always be the first, and Shalltear will be the second.
This change is due to the fact that the sequel (What I planned so far) would begin in a harem setting as children will play a big role in the sequel, and the game would be quite boring and lacking heavily in content if some playthroughs only had 1 child.

Bueno, eso sería todo de mi parte, qué tengas un buen día/tarde/o noche, esperare con hancias cada uno de tus juegos, en especial este remaster y su secuela, adiosito volveré si se me ocurre algúna idea que te pueda interesar ❤

 

[Winterfire]

Bueno, eso sería todo de mi parte, qué tengas un buen día/tarde/o noche, esperare con hancias cada uno de tus juegos, en especial este remaster y su secuela, adiosito volveré si se me ocurre algúna idea que te pueda interesar ❤

Thank you, have a nice day!

 

[jossle]

My suggestions and wishes are probably a bit hard to implement:

Ainz can have more than one child with each character

Give the player the ability to play a pervy ainz and i mean that in the game's world ainz's motivation are more 'sexual' from start towards the citizens of nazarick, meaning than rather Ainz being seduce or being pragmatic about having sex with his npcs, he actually wants to have relations and have a family.

Make short what if route scenario for certain characters rather than remove routes altogether (it would be better if routes were optional but i understand that would be far too much work, so making short what if scenerarios exploring how ainz life would go if he stuck to monogamy is bound to be a good starting point for some good extra content. characters i would like to see having such scenerarios would be albedo, shalltear, evileye and perhaps aura )

Being able to not just pick the man suzuki was but also be able to change his race to elder vampire, perhaps a shotout to alucard

 

[Winterfire]

My suggestions and wishes are probably a bit hard to implement:

Ainz can have more than one child with each character

Give the player the ability to play a pervy ainz and i mean that in the game's world ainz's motivation are more 'sexual' from start towards the citizens of nazarick, meaning than rather Ainz being seduce or being pragmatic about having sex with his npcs, he actually wants to have relations and have a family.

Make short what if route scenario for certain characters rather than remove routes altogether (it would be better if routes were optional but i understand that would be far too much work, so making short what if scenerarios exploring how ainz life would go if he stuck to monogamy is bound to be a good starting point for some good extra content. characters i would like to see having such scenerarios would be albedo, shalltear, evileye and perhaps aura )

Being able to not just pick the man suzuki was but also be able to change his race to elder vampire, perhaps a shotout to alucard

More than a child in Overlord H+ is impossible due to the role they play in Overlord H II, it'll already be very hard to do (as in time consuming) with the current amount of children, doubling it would make it near impossible as I am solo.
In general, I also believe quality is better than quantity... If I can refine up the personalities of the current children and make them more interesting, it would be better than dedicating the same time in making an average personality for x2 children.

Monogamy exists in Overlord H, you can go for Albedo only for instance, and there are even written scenes for such scenario (Aurora, Albedo's child, being extremely bored) and even CGs (Albedo only standing by your side at the throne).
Adding what-if scenarios could be a cute idea, as Ainz could realistically think "I wonder how my life would be like if I was in a relationship only with x", but it highly depends on how much extra work that is.
I do have what-if scenarios in my current project, and they are not a joke ... I would probably be better off making some mini-games (as in separate games) focusing on each character after putting it on a vote from time to time.

As for the race... If we assume Ainz is a sort of Demilich (Basically an evolution of a classic lich), then Shalltear is the evolution of a classic vampire, so a Vampire Lord. Shalltear's class is perfect for a vampire, whereas a necromancer vampire... It is not exactly what I'd define the best choice.

 

[jossle]

More than a child in Overlord H+ is impossible due to the role they play in Overlord H II, it'll already be very hard to do (as in time consuming) with the current amount of children, doubling it would make it near impossible as I am solo.
In general, I also believe quality is better than quantity... If I can refine up the personalities of the current children and make them more interesting, it would be better than dedicating the same time in making an average personality for x2 children.

Monogamy exists in Overlord H, you can go for Albedo only for instance, and there are even written scenes for such scenario (Aurora, Albedo's child, being extremely bored) and even CGs (Albedo only standing by your side at the throne).
Adding what-if scenarios could be a cute idea, as Ainz could realistically think "I wonder how my life would be like if I was in a relationship only with x", but it highly depends on how much extra work that is.
I do have what-if scenarios in my current project, and they are not a joke ... I would probably be better off making some mini-games (as in separate games) focusing on each character after putting it on a vote from time to time.

As for the race... If we assume Ainz is a sort of Demilich (Basically an evolution of a classic lich), then Shalltear is the evolution of a classic vampire, so a Vampire Lord. Shalltear's class is perfect for a vampire, whereas a necromancer vampire... It is not exactly what I'd define the best choice.

I see, thought as much, i had another idea though, one that is pretty common of overlord fan work. Have one or more guild members stay with ainz. Now hear me out, i know that sound cliche and probably a lot of work but i always had this bukuXainz ship on my mind but i never found any content for it so maybe you could make that a possible short what if scenario if nothing else. I mean the npc are interesting for the concept of what if's, but his guild mates would be even more interesting (perhaps gender swap some of them? can you imagine AinzXFemTouchMe or AinzXFemUlbbert, or dare we imagine AinzXFemTabula?)

 

[Winterfire]

I see, thought as much, i had another idea though, one that is pretty common of overlord fan work. Have one or more guild members stay with ainz. Now hear me out, i know that sound cliche and probably a lot of work but i always had this bukuXainz ship on my mind but i never found any content for it so maybe you could make that a possible short what if scenario if nothing else. I mean the npc are interesting for the concept of what if's, but his guild mates would be even more interesting (perhaps gender swap some of them? can you imagine AinzXFemTouchMe or AinzXFemUlbbert, or dare we imagine AinzXFemTabula?)

Overlord H wouldn't really work with another player staying behind, nor I would make a separate game like I would for more common heroines such as Albedo.

The most I could do (and it is something I have been considering doing for a long time now) is adding a tier on my Patreon page where people can suggest such scenes (With some limits to avoid NTR or other things I do not like), and those would exist in a separate gallery like most other games do.

This is of course just an idea I had for a while, but I am not sure if by the time I start Overlord H+ I will have such a tier. It takes some good planning, and I am not sure if I would be able to handle it.

 

[jossle]

Overlord H wouldn't really work with another player staying behind, nor I would make a separate game like I would for more common heroines such as Albedo.

The most I could do (and it is something I have been considering doing for a long time now) is adding a tier on my Patreon page where people can suggest such scenes (With some limits to avoid NTR or other things I do not like), and those would exist in a separate gallery like most other games do.

This is of course just an idea I had for a while, but I am not sure if by the time I start Overlord H+ I will have such a tier. It takes some good planning, and I am not sure if I would be able to handle it.

Again, fair. How about you clarify something for me. you mention harem would be the the main route, so does that mean the player will no longer have a choice if ainz does get together with a character or not? Are there going to be character that need to be on the harem for plot reason if there is a choice?

 

[Winterfire]

Again, fair. How about you clarify something for me. you mention harem would be the the main route, so does that mean the player will no longer have a choice if ainz does get together with a character or not? Are there going to be character that need to be on the harem for plot reason if there is a choice?

Harem will be the only route, so yes, Ainz will not have any choice this time. That is partially due to the feedback I got back when I was developing Overlord H, and also my current project. Harem seems to be what is generally liked, and Overlord is one of the few series I know where it would fit perfectly with no issue.

The other reason is that in the sequel, Ainz's children will play a big role. There will be no save importing, but since Overlord H+ will be a remaster, it is more likely people will play that before moving on to the sequel, and having a Harem makes more sense since it will be the default start in the sequel.

Of course since it will not be a kinetic novel, some choices might mean fewer heroines... One choice that comes to mind is whether to kill Clementine or not. In the sequel, she will be alive, but in Overlord H+ you can choose to kill her as you can in Overlord H.

Since I do understand that some people might not like certain characters (especially since Entoma is an arachnid and Nigredo will keep her original appearance), all sex scenes will be skippable.

 

[jossle]

Harem will be the only route, so yes, Ainz will not have any choice this time. That is partially due to the feedback I got back when I was developing Overlord H, and also my current project. Harem seems to be what is generally liked, and Overlord is one of the few series I know where it would fit perfectly with no issue.

The other reason is that in the sequel, Ainz's children will play a big role. There will be no save importing, but since Overlord H+ will be a remaster, it is more likely people will play that before moving on to the sequel, and having a Harem makes more sense since it will be the default start in the sequel.

Of course since it will not be a kinetic novel, some choices might mean fewer heroines... One choice that comes to mind is whether to kill Clementine or not. In the sequel, she will be alive, but in Overlord H+ you can choose to kill her as you can in Overlord H.

Since I do understand that some people might not like certain characters (especially since Entoma is an arachnid and Nigredo will keep her original appearance), all sex scenes will be skippable.

Shame then, seems like i will stick with the original, this one won't strike my taste (i value the story over the porn believe it or not, so choice matters to me and its what motivates me to still open Overlord H every once in a while, sometimes i do a shalltear run, other times a clementine run...so making scenes skippable doesn't do anything for me). sorry but to me it seems you are removing a good feature (choice) just to validate your oc's and a future project that's years in the future. Kind of, i know it also to streamline production but the optics are not good.

If you want my advice, focus on remastering overlord H properly (choice is rarely a bad thing and users are not always clear on what they want) then worry about future projects and how to conect it to the next. Who knows where you will be in the future? perhaps then you could make a proper multi choice game accounting for children and choices both? even save migration?

I mean save migration, could you just be a questionnaire at the beginning of the second game to set the world state, is not that big of a problem. You are just thinking a bit small winter...

 

[Winterfire]

Shame then, seems like i will stick with the original, this one won't strike my taste (i value the story over the porn believe it or not, so choice matters to me and its what motivates me to still open Overlord H every once in a while, sometimes i do a shalltear run, other times a clementine run...so making scenes skippable doesn't do anything for me). sorry but to me it seems you are removing a good feature (choice) just to validate your oc's and a future project that's years in the future. Kind of, i know it also to streamline production but the optics are not good.

If you want my advice, focus on remastering overlord H properly (choice is rarely a bad thing and users are not always clear on what they want) then worry about future projects and how to conect it to the next. Who knows where you will be in the future? perhaps then you could make a proper multi choice game accounting for children and choices both? even save migration?

I mean save migration, could you just be a questionnaire at the beginning of the second game to set the world state, is not that big of a problem. You are just thinking a bit small winter...

Plans are pretty much made for both, as I have mentioned earlier, the sequel needs all children otherwise a great number of updates (which I do monthly now) would contain no content for some people. I do not really want to punish people over their choices, and if you do not like something it is easy to ignore.

Overlord H+ will be a different game, so it is normal some people might enjoy a game and not the other. I am sure some people who did not enjoy Overlord H will instead find the remake much better.
Since this one will be made with Ren'Py as well, nothing prevents me (or modders) from updating the other game as well to give it a fresher look, and maybe expand it a little bit (Should I get some good ideas while developing the remake that could also exist there).

Also, I never said there will not be choices. Overlord H+ will not be a kinetic novel.
I am just making Harem the only route, with the possibility to skip the sex scenes due to the fact some heroines will be monsterous, and not everyone might enjoy this.

 

[jossle]

Plans are pretty much made for both, as I have mentioned earlier, the sequel needs all children otherwise a great number of updates (which I do monthly now) would contain no content for some people. I do not really want to punish people over their choices, and if you do not like something it is easy to ignore.

Overlord H+ will be a different game, so it is normal some people might enjoy a game and not the other. I am sure some people who did not enjoy Overlord H will instead find the remake much better.
Since this one will be made with Ren'Py as well, nothing prevents me (or modders) from updating the other game as well to give it a fresher look, and maybe expand it a little bit (Should I get some good ideas while developing the remake that could also exist there).

Also, I never said there will not be choices. Overlord H+ will not be a kinetic novel.
I am just making Harem the only route, with the possibility to skip the sex scenes due to the fact some heroines will be monsterous, and not everyone might enjoy this.

Fair enough, not my project. Lastly, you mention modding, is it possible to mod overlord h (current version)?i seem to remember vaguely that you release a development document for overlord h so would it be possible to also release resources (character model are mostly on koikatsu, so it would be the art) be made available for modders interested in modding the original? I wouldn't mind expanding on the original version with a mod

 

[Winterfire]

Fair enough, not my project. Lastly, you mention modding, is it possible to mod overlord h (current version)?i seem to remember vaguely that you release a development document for overlord h so would it be possible to also release resources (character model are mostly on koikatsu, so it would be the art) be made available for modders interested in modding the original? I wouldn't mind expanding on the original version with a mod

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[jossle]

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Thanks, that's real nice of you

 

[Look-see]

regarding Nigredo are we gonna see her as her mostly covered face with one eye showing and some teeth? or are we getting the anime version with no face?

 

[Winterfire]

regarding Nigredo are we gonna see her as her mostly covered face with one eye showing and some teeth? or are we getting the anime version with no face?

I have to yet watch the anime, but she will have her half of her face covered with hair, with teeth and 1 eye showing. No skin, but exposed muscles.

 

[Look-see]

I have to yet watch the anime, but she will have her half of her face covered with hair, with teeth and 1 eye showing. No skin, but exposed muscles.

the anime version is pretty much the same but shows most if not all of her face(muscles)