6 months for 10 minutes of gameplay is a bit concerning. The quality is very nice tho, its the kinda game that really needs a few people working on it or it is going to take a year per tiny update. I personally am a believer in don't release a game until you have at least 30-45 minutes of gameplay done, especially if you want financially supported. Yes I realize its a demo. I am the kind of guy that waits for an anime to finish and then binge the full season in a day. Good luck to the dev, nothing against them, just my thoughts. Also don't see why the dick matters at all, if that is what the dev intended why change it? I hate ntr but I accept that is how some games are written.
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What is 'very' helpful in basically 70% of the people going "The dick is too big, make it half the size and it's good"?
That's their whole critique, nothing to say about any other aspect of the game. Nothing pointing to the amazing renders and animations in A DEMO. Nothing pointing at parts of the demo that they found lacking. They are just bothered that there's a big dick. If you want to make criticism try actually being helpful instead of loud and obnoxious.
And be aware that they wouldn't stop there, they would find it still too big or find other stuff to complain. And I won't go around exposing people but I've seen what some of those 'very helpful' critics have in their signature and what they usually like... they wouldn't be complaining if the MC was a man instead of a futa.
And it's LITERALLY impossible to make everyone happy, trolls and haters will always find something to complain, if the Dev actually gives in to the pressure this would actually make things worse since the trolls would know they can bully the Dev into caving to their demands if they are loud enough. This is the ultimate recipe to disaster for a game.
And the fact that you think even 10% of those people crying because of a cock in a game is going to support the Dev, even if they changed it, you are so out of your element dude. Like for real, that's too much innocence for you to actually belong in this forum.
And while I do agree that more options and changeable dick size is going to attract more people, it would be way too much work. Every sex scene would need to be rendered basically twice, I don't find that feasible for a single dev starting now and trying to make quality content.
Newsflash: Dickgirls are not real. I know, I know... that's sad, I wish they were real, but alas I have to exist in a world where they are not. And what's even worse is that Luna is, get that, literally NOT REAL since she is in a game.
And I will even direct quote you in my answer for you see how much of hypocrite you are being right now: "If the size of the dick is important to the plot then the game just isn't for me"
That's what you said. So... you are saying that you wouldn't play the game if the dick size is important to the plot, while me and every other people supporting the Dev's decisions would play regardless of size... I guess I, at least, can see who actually values the plot here. You and the other people complaining are the only ones actually not caring about the plot and making this all about the size. This game is already not for you because you literally can't see the plot and the game since your attention is completely on the big, bulging, thick mass of girl meat Luna is sporting, which got even more exagerated because of the perspective the Dev choose for the masturbation scene.
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People just please have your opinions, I have had mine, but please keep them respectful. I think criticisms are just as important as appraisals, but if those criticisms are just reduced to 'change this', then that is not really helpful. What the dev has done here is amazing, and I am sure everyone has seen at least one creator run off or abandon there game because people reduced there project to one aspect. Dev if you read this, I encourage you to go forward with this game as YOU intended, and please don't listen to mundane negativity towards it. The graphics, story, characters, all of it has huge potential to be among the top VN's, don't be discouraged. Just one question I do have, during the dinner scene, obviously the father and mother are there, and since one of the planned tags is 'incest', does this mean this game will contain neotare themes on top of the others?
My thing is I do see potential and see a lot of great stuff, its just a shame that all that potential is going to waste in my opinion with the unrealistic dick.
For a game that has great characters, pretty solid story, the dev even said this will have realistic family incest relationship buidling, and probably much more, which is great but as soon as you see the dick, it feels like all that goes out the window, cause it is so out of place, unrealistic, and cartoon like.
If the dev was making another type of game, of comedy, parody, etc. I wouldn't have a problem, but for me it's just shame this is the direction chosen, cause this does has a lot of potential and I want the best, but it looks like that won't happen.
Okay, now look at it from the other perspective. One that rather enjoys the dick size as it is (maybe encouraging a little larger). Everything else you've said remains the same. Good writing, good premise, good art, slow burn relationship.
And here, you declare one single fact to completely ruin everything. "Potential is going to waste" was your exact choice of words. Everything else about this game, completely obliterated by a single element. How, exactly, does this make your position look? That you are hung up on one thing to the point where it overshadows everything else in your opinion. Yes, this fact is front and center to the story, and will, by necessity, be included in every sex scene. But it is one piece of the entire puzzle. And you've declared it a deal-breaker, so much so that you are here in this topic calling for it's change. To the point where you are in the middle of a protracted argument over whether or not it should remain.
If this game was focused on bondage, or scat, or rape, and you came in demanding the dev change course and make the game how you wanted, you would immediately be declared a kink-shamer and asked to leave. At the end of the day, the dev is making the game, not you. It's their call how their game is made. And you do not have the right to shame them into changing. If you don't want to see the MC's giant dick anymore, all you have to do is leave. It's that simple.
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I don’t understand why so many people are obsessed with the secret size, there is one quite famous artist here there is his game or maybe he didn’t make it, but there is his art(Sand Planet), his characters also have big secrets and he does all sorts of dirty things with them, why not look at it from the same side!?
This size will give a lot of dirty scenes, such as when MC put her fingers under the skin of the secret, with a little secret this wouldn't have happened!
So i advise everyone to look at it from a future perspective!
This size will give a lot of dirty scenes, such as when MC put her fingers under the skin of the secret, with a little secret this wouldn't have happened!
So i advise everyone to look at it from a future perspective!
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Right now it is a demo and poc.
Imho the Main Point of discussion should be about better integration of the dick into the Animations. Right now the masturbation animation is not optimal with only one hand. So if the dev can pull off ways to bring it to live and it is his vision, of course the dick should stay as it is.
If however it brings too many issues with animation (using 2 hands, blow jobs with npc, additional Belly bulging), maybe the dev should reconsider if he can bring the quality he clearly is aming for with this size. But only then imho.
Imho the Main Point of discussion should be about better integration of the dick into the Animations. Right now the masturbation animation is not optimal with only one hand. So if the dev can pull off ways to bring it to live and it is his vision, of course the dick should stay as it is.
If however it brings too many issues with animation (using 2 hands, blow jobs with npc, additional Belly bulging), maybe the dev should reconsider if he can bring the quality he clearly is aming for with this size. But only then imho.
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uhm give her some light freckles like her lil sis and make her dick 2 inches or so smaller and shes perfect
will watch it for shure
just keep a pace that doesnt compromise ur mental health (for some odd reason many feel pressured to bring out the best the univers has seen in the shortest time possible. which is stupid. its ur game, u do it for almoast nothing so dont let it get to u!)
just keep a pace that doesnt compromise ur mental health (for some odd reason many feel pressured to bring out the best the univers has seen in the shortest time possible. which is stupid. its ur game, u do it for almoast nothing so dont let it get to u!)
iam for the freckles, but i wouldnt tuch the propotions on anything, cuz that can bring wierd stuff into the mix. like on version having these propotions and the next update different
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Lots of people giving feedback about the size. As a big dick futa enjoyer myself it pains me to agree with them....This is a beautiful game with well done animation and wonderfully sculpted models.
However because of that I feel that in any scene that will involve penetration, my logical mind will not let me enjoy it. I am of the opinion that futa(wait, does she have a pussy under there? I would hope but if not well its still hot.) is expected to be large down there, as is the trend, so I dont want to see her get reduced by half(that would be bullshit) but I have to admit I think it just a tad too much.
When viewing anime styled or otherwise animated media its less of an issue but in a setting where everything else seems otherwise grounded, it sticks out...
For the point of realism, yes I know it is technically possible just very very rare and yes there are large insertion porn videos out there with women putting toys of ungodly proportions into places they dont belong but it's usually not pretty. At least not to my eyes.
MC solo , cock/balls worship, and footjob scenes all have the potential to be hot as hell though.(subtle hint) I just think that penetration scenes will be less jarring if "the package" was just a smidge less over the top. At least for people like me that find it a little harder to disconnect from logical thinking. To the person who will comment that futanari and/or dickgirls aren't real, you are singing to the choir. That said, internal logical consistency is still a tenet of story writing/world building.
If all her partners are magically elastic and wont get ruined/deformed and that is somehow logically justified in universe then no problem. It's no surprise that there are comments asking about bulging as a result of penetration. Not that I find that content arousing, I don't, but It does make sense all things considered.
Just my opinion. I look forward to the full first release.
However because of that I feel that in any scene that will involve penetration, my logical mind will not let me enjoy it. I am of the opinion that futa(wait, does she have a pussy under there? I would hope but if not well its still hot.) is expected to be large down there, as is the trend, so I dont want to see her get reduced by half(that would be bullshit) but I have to admit I think it just a tad too much.
When viewing anime styled or otherwise animated media its less of an issue but in a setting where everything else seems otherwise grounded, it sticks out...
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MC solo , cock/balls worship, and footjob scenes all have the potential to be hot as hell though.(subtle hint) I just think that penetration scenes will be less jarring if "the package" was just a smidge less over the top. At least for people like me that find it a little harder to disconnect from logical thinking. To the person who will comment that futanari and/or dickgirls aren't real, you are singing to the choir. That said, internal logical consistency is still a tenet of story writing/world building.
If all her partners are magically elastic and wont get ruined/deformed and that is somehow logically justified in universe then no problem. It's no surprise that there are comments asking about bulging as a result of penetration. Not that I find that content arousing, I don't, but It does make sense all things considered.
Just my opinion. I look forward to the full first release.
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Hello everyone. Thank you so much for the interest and support you've shown since the demo of my game was released. I've decided to talk about few things.
About the story:
I've read the criticisms about the story and intend to make the necessary adjustments to address the issues. As this is a demo version, I didn't have the opportunity to elaborate on everything and introduce the entire universe. However, I assure you that there is more world-building than what you see here, which I will dynamically incorporate over time.
Also I'm aware that there are criticisms about how it's ridiculous that the sisters in the family relationship are unaware of Luna's situation. I know I'm repeating myself, but in this demo version, I didn't have the chance to explain everything. In the future version(s) of the game, we'll learn more about this topic, and the pieces will start to fall into place.
Is the Luna/MC is trans?
Characters like Luna are people born with an extra gift in a female body. For her to be trans, there would need to be a transformation. So no, she's not trans. But she's not a full package futanari either (no vagina). Please keep in mind when evaluating this situation that the universe in my vision is not the real world.
Will there be a platform other than SubscribeStar?
If we're talking about Patreon, unfortunately no. But yes to others! I've done research on this topic and am listening to recommendations. I want to release the game on platforms like Steam as well, but it's a bit too early to discuss that yet.
Let me answer some questions quickly:I've read the criticisms about the story and intend to make the necessary adjustments to address the issues. As this is a demo version, I didn't have the opportunity to elaborate on everything and introduce the entire universe. However, I assure you that there is more world-building than what you see here, which I will dynamically incorporate over time.
Also I'm aware that there are criticisms about how it's ridiculous that the sisters in the family relationship are unaware of Luna's situation. I know I'm repeating myself, but in this demo version, I didn't have the chance to explain everything. In the future version(s) of the game, we'll learn more about this topic, and the pieces will start to fall into place.
Is the Luna/MC is trans?
Characters like Luna are people born with an extra gift in a female body. For her to be trans, there would need to be a transformation. So no, she's not trans. But she's not a full package futanari either (no vagina). Please keep in mind when evaluating this situation that the universe in my vision is not the real world.
Will there be a platform other than SubscribeStar?
If we're talking about Patreon, unfortunately no. But yes to others! I've done research on this topic and am listening to recommendations. I want to release the game on platforms like Steam as well, but it's a bit too early to discuss that yet.
I've already taken some steps regarding showing bulge and can achieve a certain quality. It's very time-consuming, so I'm trying to learn more effective ways during this process.
No, there will be another futa/dickgirl characters in the game.
The 1080p version will come with the full release. I didn't have the opportunity for the demo version. I'm aware that 4K version caused some issues on low-end computers, so it's likely to solve this issue with 1080p version.
The dickgirl characters will not have vaginas, including Luna herself. I can understand why it's desired, but due to some technical problems and personal reasons, it won't be a thing.
I have a plans to add this kind of feature on styling tab in the options. I want to make it optional feature to let anyone change it accordingly to their preferences.
I'm aware that gallery isn't completely finished yet. I'll make necessary adjustments like you suggest and many more.
I know 6 months might seem like a long time for a demo. But keep in mind that every single character was created from scratch, let alone the UI design which is completely custom made - which, by the way, took way longer than I expected. But rest assured, regular releases won't take six months to complete.
I agree. I've seen this before in CrazySky3D games and comics, where the girls have asteroid-sized dicks, and the swollen bellies from penetration look repulsive to me.
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My favourite method of doing a bulge is to create a small sphere inside the body, then a timeline simulation to the full size and shape.
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Thank you for the update, for sharing your plans for your game and for giving clarity on some questions we had for the game and it's characters.
I will be waiting for the first release so I can properly pass my judgement over all the aspects of the game, those I loved, those I liked and those I found lacking!
I'm also glad Luna won't be the sole wielder of the girl meat stick in the game, I will look foward to all the hot dickgirls that will appear in the future~ Hope we can have a really wide selection of hot dickgirls in the future
Bulges are always a godsend. There are tons of aways of showing them in different clothes, you can get very creative with Luna and the other dickgirl's cock positioning, tucking and apparent hardness while their cocks are still clothed.
I will look forward to all other changes mentioned, from the gallery to overall interface to the polished story and writing.
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Once again, the developer has ignored the penis size issue… and I don't know what the problem is with saying that the size won't change.
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Because it's not an issue. The crybabies are making it an issue.Once again, the developer has ignored the penis size issue… and I don't know what the problem is with saying that the size won't change.
And the Dev did, indeed, approached this so called issue in a indirect way.
First, they mentioned that they polish the story, the large part of the complaints about the size is that it would clash with the narrative... so the Dev is already going to polish it, so we need the final product to see if it will clash as much as these people are claiming to be.
Second, they said and I quote:
I will be highlighting the "Please keep in mind when evaluating this situation that the universe in my vision IS NOT THE REAL WORLD".
So, I think asking for her size to be 'realistic' in an universe that is not the real world is kind of dumb, but maybe that is just me.
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Then why not give a direct answer rather than an indirect one?