VN Ren'Py Package Perfect [Demo] [Lewtopia]

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Kodek

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I wanted to provide an update on the discussions regarding Luna's penis size. Let me share my thoughts and decisions openly.

First, let me explain why I was quiet about this. The amount of complaints and feedback about Luna's size caught me by surprise. As a long-time fan of futa/dickgirl content, I hadn't anticipated it being an issue. When I saw your feedback, I needed time to think it over and hear what different people in the community had to say. I'm aware that it's a sensitive topic and that finding a solution that satisfies everyone may not be possible.

Luna's penis size is really important to the story I want to tell - it's necessary for portraying her dealing with funny and sexy situations because of it. While I value the feedback, making the penis a lot smaller by half is not something I'm willing to do. So, to make sure I made the right choice, I created some test renders and some animations with different penis sizes. This helped me see how future sex scenes would look.

After testing different sizes, I've decided to reduce Luna's penis size by approximately 20% (bringing it to about 80% of its original size). It still looks impressive, but not as large as before. I think this new size works better while keeping what makes Luna special. The new proportions work well both visually and narratively within the story. I'll implement these changes in the first full update of the game.

I understand that even with this modification, Luna's size may not suit everyone's tastes, but I believe this is the best middle ground that stays true to her design.

Thank you for your patience and understanding. I hope this clarifies my thought process and the actions I'm taking in response to your feedback. As always, I appreciate your support.
Finally, now we can bury the hatchet and the thread can follow in a much more peaceful manner. And I was already expecting this to be the result ever since we touched the topic of bulges be it in bodies or clothes.
Because, as much as like really big cocks as a long time futa fan, they can clash with sex scenes, most of the time in 3D, making the work harder for rendering.
There are some really good artists that do it though, like Affect3D, Serge3DX and CrazySky3D, if anyone wants some recommendation.

Thanks for the clarification and thank you for the commitment with the current and future fans of your work!
 
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Sharpen

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You shouldn't be "fooled" by people's opinions!
My advice is to no longer take such measures as changing what you yourself have planned, yes, i agree that with a smaller size it’s easier to work in terms of daz, but with a larger size you can do a lot of different kinky scenes! Examples of similar games were given above, and to be honest, your animation(HJ) is very similar to the animation of Nyl2, who uses very big secrets in his works!
Don’t change your idea anymore at the behest of people, otherwise the project may lose its originality, there are many such examples!
Yeah personally I like when they're just a bit comically large. Like, I play these games to experience things that I do not and will not get with IRL porn. Large insertions, stomach deformations, multiple/massive cumshots, the occasional [tastefully done] furry, weird/unique characters [or just parodies of animated characters in general]. The animated media, whether 3D or 2D, lends itself much better to over the top content while still looking reasonably convincing and being a charming game, whereas anything even attempted IRL with similar content just looks absurd and awful most of the time. Besides, theres plenty of games with approachable, realistic proportions as well.
 

Lewtopia

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You shouldn't be "fooled" by people's opinions!
My advice is to no longer take such measures as changing what you yourself have planned, yes, i agree that with a smaller size it’s easier to work in terms of daz, but with a larger size you can do a lot of different kinky scenes! Examples of similar games were given above, and to be honest, your animation(HJ) is very similar to the animation of Nyl2, who uses very big secrets in his works!
Don’t change your idea anymore at the behest of people, otherwise the project may lose its originality, there are many such examples!
Rather than compromising, I'd say I'm finding a middle ground without losing my vision for the game. This is the demo version after all, and any kind of feedback is always welcome. I'm aware that some people might even find bigger dick more appealing, but there are also players who might want to give my game a try but lose interest just because the MC's dick size is bigger than usual. Rest assured, I would never make changes that might damage the game and its story. Besides, with this change I make, Luna's dick will still be impressive which is important for the story and her background.
 

Kodek

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Yeah personally I like when they're just a bit comically large. Like, I play these games to experience things that I do not and will not get with IRL porn. Large insertions, stomach deformations, multiple/massive cumshots, the occasional [tastefully done] furry, weird/unique characters [or just parodies of animated characters in general]. The animated media, whether 3D or 2D, lends itself much better to over the top content while still looking reasonably convincing and being a charming game, whereas anything even attempted IRL with similar content just looks absurd and awful most of the time. Besides, theres plenty of games with approachable, realistic proportions as well.
I'm on the same boat with my tastes. But the Dev sounded unsure IMO when me and some others mentioned stomach deformations. It probably made him think of how he would render future sex scenes and this together with the other criticism made him re-evaluate what the final product would look like.

It would probably be something they would eventually find the need to change when the project finally introduced a sex scene with insertions, so it's good they managed to find something that they are confortable working with earlier rather than later. The middle ground is a good answer most of the time.
 

Ralpvolvos

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I wanted to provide an update on the discussions regarding Luna's penis size. Let me share my thoughts and decisions openly.

First, let me explain why I was quiet about this. The amount of complaints and feedback about Luna's size caught me by surprise. As a long-time fan of futa/dickgirl content, I hadn't anticipated it being an issue. When I saw your feedback, I needed time to think it over and hear what different people in the community had to say. I'm aware that it's a sensitive topic and that finding a solution that satisfies everyone may not be possible.

Luna's penis size is really important to the story I want to tell - it's necessary for portraying her dealing with funny and sexy situations because of it. While I value the feedback, making the penis a lot smaller by half is not something I'm willing to do. So, to make sure I made the right choice, I created some test renders and some animations with different penis sizes. This helped me see how future sex scenes would look.

After testing different sizes, I've decided to reduce Luna's penis size by approximately 20% (bringing it to about 80% of its original size). It still looks impressive, but not as large as before. I think this new size works better while keeping what makes Luna special. The new proportions work well both visually and narratively within the story. I'll implement these changes in the first full update of the game.

I understand that even with this modification, Luna's size may not suit everyone's tastes, but I believe this is the best middle ground that stays true to her design.

Thank you for your patience and understanding. I hope this clarifies my thought process and the actions I'm taking in response to your feedback. As always, I appreciate your support.
just my advice, be careful with "critics or advice" from people who already yelled "i wont play this game again" or "i didnt play this game " because of whatever reason. (especially those who said that they DIDN'T play the game but "giving advice").

even after you make a "middle ground", most of the time they will never try your game again/ever and you risk making people who like your initial decision go away, leaving you with none.
 

Sharpen

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I'm on the same boat with my tastes. But the Dev sounded unsure IMO when me and some others mentioned stomach deformations. It probably made him think of how he would render future sex scenes and this together with the other criticism made him re-evaluate how he would render the scenes and what the final product would look like.

It would probably be something they would eventually find the need to change when the project finally introduced a sex scene with insertions, so it's good they managed to find something that they are confortable working with earlier rather than later. The middle ground is a good answer most of the time.
I can't speak at all to the 3D rendering side since I have 0 experience, but from a viewer standpoint I think a slight stomach deformation for stuff like this makes the scenes more compelling when the uh equipment is this large. But man, do oral scenes get weird with huge dicks, specifically the jaws. I do not want myself in a devs shoes trying to choreograph that kind of stuff.

Also, to add to your earlier comment, I think Animopron is quite good at it too if you can accept the absurdity of their work.
 

Kodek

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I can't speak at all to the 3D rendering side since I have 0 experience, but from a viewer standpoint I think a slight stomach deformation for stuff like this makes the scenes more compelling when the uh equipment is this large. But man, do oral scenes get weird with huge dicks, specifically the jaws. I do not want myself in a devs shoes trying to choreograph that kind of stuff.

Also, to add to your earlier comment, I think Animopron is quite good at it too if you can accept the absurdity of their work.
Yeah, I never dabbled too deep with DAZ and 3D rendering too much, but it is troublesome to say the least. And the little bit I played with, I found the proportions and bodies getting more and more 'elasticated' the more I tried to adjust them to work with insertions. But as a viewer? It's definitely hot.

Even low quality scenes are troublesome to deal with and Lewtopia is going for smooth transitions and animations, which, I'm guessing, is even more problematic.
 

Kodek

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Lol
Yes yes yes - what kind of opinion!?
Do you know the developers who followed the lead of their fans, which ultimately ruined the game!?
Please, let's bury the hatchet now. The Dev made his point and announcement, let's support them!
But I'm with you here, I've seen a lot games ruined for such a reason, but I think that we made our point clear and now we must wait and see what will happen down the line.
 

Ralpvolvos

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If nothing is changed, the project may lose a large part of the players who did not like the original size. Listening to feedback is always good.
people who didnt like the original size, MOST LIKELY WILL NEVER PLAY THE GAME EVER AGAIN.

mark my word LMAO

i see a lot of that kind of people in this forum. they will yell and argue about something and DEMAND the dev to bend to their opinion.

then you know what? apparently they are a LOUD MINORITY and ruined the game for majority of the player
 
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junkgkj

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I wanted to provide an update on the discussions regarding Luna's penis size. Let me share my thoughts and decisions openly.

First, let me explain why I was quiet about this. The amount of complaints and feedback about Luna's size caught me by surprise. As a long-time fan of futa/dickgirl content, I hadn't anticipated it being an issue. When I saw your feedback, I needed time to think it over and hear what different people in the community had to say. I'm aware that it's a sensitive topic and that finding a solution that satisfies everyone may not be possible.

Luna's penis size is really important to the story I want to tell - it's necessary for portraying her dealing with funny and sexy situations because of it. While I value the feedback, making the penis a lot smaller by half is not something I'm willing to do. So, to make sure I made the right choice, I created some test renders and some animations with different penis sizes. This helped me see how future sex scenes would look.

After testing different sizes, I've decided to reduce Luna's penis size by approximately 20% (bringing it to about 80% of its original size). It still looks impressive, but not as large as before. I think this new size works better while keeping what makes Luna special. The new proportions work well both visually and narratively within the story. I'll implement these changes in the first full update of the game.

I understand that even with this modification, Luna's size may not suit everyone's tastes, but I believe this is the best middle ground that stays true to her design.

Thank you for your patience and understanding. I hope this clarifies my thought process and the actions I'm taking in response to your feedback. As always, I appreciate your support.
You telling your story is the most important factor. I am also a big futa/dickgirl fan and I found this discussion to be absurd, and I really hope you don't make any more changes like this that go against your vision. I want to see what you have to offer, not the comment sections.
But if you are still happy with what she has now, then I'll trust you.
But please stick to your vision or your passion will die a fast death.
 

Ralpvolvos

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the most viable way to gather valid critics are poll or discussion with paid member because you know what? accept it or not, they are the one who make the game keep going.

not people who argue in this site because most of them just troll or just having a bad day and lasing out
 

ItsNotUs

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Rather than compromising, I'd say I'm finding a middle ground without losing my vision for the game. This is the demo version after all, and any kind of feedback is always welcome. I'm aware that some people might even find bigger dick more appealing, but there are also players who might want to give my game a try but lose interest just because the MC's dick size is bigger than usual. Rest assured, I would never make changes that might damage the game and its story. Besides, with this change I make, Luna's dick will still be impressive which is important for the story and her background.
You can’t make compromises!
Now they asked you to reduce the size, supposedly it’s too big for futa - damn it, for futa, fantasy in 3D, lol! Then whey will ask you to change something else - go your own way, you will find your niche of your fans who will love and follow your project!

Just for the sake of interest, at least someone send me a link to a futa game where the dicks are supposedly normal (realistic). I all time see how everyone in futa games has huge dicks, it’s like it’s written into their biography-lor!
 

Lynava

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I'm glad I finally got a response from the developer on this topic, it was starting to stress me out that the developer has been ignoring the hot topic for almost 4 days now. And honestly, it was starting to scare me because I thought that the developer might ignore other feedback in the future. But I'm glad I was wrong and got a response and even a change.
Good luck to the developer. And the main thing is not to always compromise, but to give a response to feedback or criticism will already be a plus.
 

ItsNotUs

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This is absolutely ridiculous hypocrisy. You say that a developer should not listen to critics, but for some reason you think that he should listen to YOU, those who tell him not to listen to critics. This is asbrood. Maybe you should let the developer decide for himself what to do?
It's like you were looking in a mirror! Lol
So this applies to you too! What are you talking about anyway?


P.S: I'm still waiting for the link of the futa game where they have "normal" dicks size!
 

Zorlond

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I wanted to provide an update on the discussions regarding Luna's penis size. Let me share my thoughts and decisions openly.

First, let me explain why I was quiet about this. The amount of complaints and feedback about Luna's size caught me by surprise. As a long-time fan of futa/dickgirl content, I hadn't anticipated it being an issue. When I saw your feedback, I needed time to think it over and hear what different people in the community had to say. I'm aware that it's a sensitive topic and that finding a solution that satisfies everyone may not be possible.

Luna's penis size is really important to the story I want to tell - it's necessary for portraying her dealing with funny and sexy situations because of it. While I value the feedback, making the penis a lot smaller by half is not something I'm willing to do. So, to make sure I made the right choice, I created some test renders and some animations with different penis sizes. This helped me see how future sex scenes would look.

After testing different sizes, I've decided to reduce Luna's penis size by approximately 20% (bringing it to about 80% of its original size). It still looks impressive, but not as large as before. I think this new size works better while keeping what makes Luna special. The new proportions work well both visually and narratively within the story. I'll implement these changes in the first full update of the game.

I understand that even with this modification, Luna's size may not suit everyone's tastes, but I believe this is the best middle ground that stays true to her design.

Thank you for your patience and understanding. I hope this clarifies my thought process and the actions I'm taking in response to your feedback. As always, I appreciate your support.
As a fellow 'adult content creator' (I'm a nobody-level writer), I would like to appeal this decision with a few words.

Compromising on one's vision is one of the hardest decisions to make. And unfortunately, one that is often full of regrets.

... Okay, that wasn't a 'few' words, I admit. : / But I would suggest that, as another has said, put up a poll, and let this unquantifiable bickering be turned into real data. You can still make your judgement as you wish, but at least you will have real data behind it.
 

citrone

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literally just mute this Kontralta guy for fucks sake stop feeding the troll
besides, i wanted to add that there is a bigger market for huge futa dicks than you might think
just look at Nyl, Gman, Amazonium, Roach... they keep gaining followers and subs
the WEG world is still lacking said hyper futas so you'd be filling that niche
 
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JEER0X

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i was gonna comment on the size as well but read what's been said already i do believe it is to big and while i love watching them girls get destroyed by such sizes this one would literally kill them lol however you do you its your game and i'm still gonna check it out
 
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