VN Ren'Py Package Perfect [v0.6] [Lewtopia]

[Darth Vengeant]

If the dev decided to give her a missile sized cock who the fuck are you people to think you can come in here and bust his balls and push him to change it? it's not even entitlement, it's stupidity. It's low IQ behavior.

Don't ever make a product, you clearly don't understand the concept of customer feedback.

Say that the dev wanted a 10 second long transition screen before every single image, and people came on here saying they disliked it, should that be ignored? Is that low IQ stupid behavior too? No, it's called feedback, and this is no different.

The 2 ft long dick size is a bit ridiculous to many people on here, me included, hence why so many have given FEEDBACK on it. No one is being "entitled", they are simply posting their option and feedback. That is what a developer WANTS from their product. If you don't like opinions, then life is going to be real hard for you. Reading what the dev said, he doesn't want to change it, so that is his decision. At least he listened and thought about it without reacting like the 2 yr old.

I personally have never understood the need for artists or creators to make dicks ridiculous sizes like this. I think it makes it comical and just idiotic at times. It removes any appeal as well. So many great images/video's ruined by a dick the size of a baseball bat, when all it had to do is be more realistic and that would make it perfect. The mammoth sized dick completely takes you out of any immersion or realism you could have felt in the story and imagery had it been more realistic. It's like the people who make CGI porn with horse dicks going in and out of a girl that is 90lbs soaking wet, not going to happen and they would be DEAD. I find it ridiculous. That is my opinion, that doesn't mean it will change anything.

One day when I build a new PC I will be making my own game. The dicks will be realistic, and the women will NOT be "thick", because I am real tired of people making women "thick" too. But I will also listen to feedback, not ignore it and call it "entitlement, it's stupidity. It's low IQ behavior".

 

[omfgmule]

Seems I'm entering a war zone in these comments.

The characters and CG so far is super hot. Its rare to find any works with big dicked futa that aren't extremely submissive or their dick isn't just treated like a pussy (IE touching / oooo im losing my mind because you touched my dick now you can fuck me normally, theres tons of non translated japanese games like this).

Really dissapointing to see the creator's going to shrink her dick size because apparently a few people lose their minds if a dick ever exceed 9 inches.

The first CG sequence was super hot and its a great loss we won't have anything like that again from this game because of people that actively worked to kill the creators original vision.

 

[Arachnophilia]

Don't ever make a product, you clearly don't understand the concept of customer feedback.

Say that the dev wanted a 10 second long transition screen before every single image, and people came on here saying they disliked it, should that be ignored? Is that low IQ stupid behavior too? No, it's called feedback, and this is no different.

The 2 ft long dick size is a bit ridiculous to many people on here, me included, hence why so many have given FEEDBACK on it. No one is being "entitled", they are simply posting their option and feedback. That is what a developer WANTS from their product. If you don't like opinions, then life is going to be real hard for you. Reading what the dev said, he doesn't want to change it, so that is his decision. At least he listened and thought about it without reacting like the 2 yr old.

I personally have never understood the need for artists or creators to make dicks ridiculous sizes like this. I think it makes it comical and just idiotic at times. It removes any appeal as well. So many great images/video's ruined by a dick the size of a baseball bat, when all it had to do is be more realistic and that would make it perfect. The mammoth sized dick completely takes you out of any immersion or realism you could have felt in the story and imagery had it been more realistic. It's like the people who make CGI porn with horse dicks going in and out of a girl that is 90lbs soaking wet, not going to happen and they would be DEAD. I find it ridiculous. That is my opinion, that doesn't mean it will change anything.

One day when I build a new PC I will be making my own game. The dicks will be realistic, and the women will NOT be "thick", because I am real tired of people making women "thick" too. But I will also listen to feedback, not ignore it and call it "entitlement, it's stupidity. It's low IQ behavior".

You're not wrong. But you're not right either. That's because the voices of people who want "realistic futanaris" are fewer in number. After all, it's already a consensus to expect a futa with an abnormally sized dick, because they were made to cause shock, fright and surprise in most stories when they have one. It's no wonder that facial expressions of the characters are something that is very requested, so that it makes sense why the futa world is always a surprise for the characters of a game or art, because it's as if a futa were new even to their world and a huge futa is even rarer causing these impressions. If the size were realistic, I think that making scenes with facial expressions of surprise would lose their charm, and would lose things like bulges in the pants, or in the stomach and throat.

I think futanaris were made to be a fantasy, a fetish that is impossible to happen. It would be as if futanaris were Orcs from a more human world, you expect a monster, an orc to be huge in hot stories, but in reality futanaris surpass all hot stories and I think most futanaris fans expect this exaggeration because it is just a fantasy.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Seems I'm entering a war zone in these comments.

The characters and CG so far is super hot. Its rare to find any works with big dicked futa that aren't extremely submissive or their dick isn't just treated like a pussy (IE touching / oooo im losing my mind because you touched my dick now you can fuck me normally, theres tons of non translated japanese games like this).

Really dissapointing to see the creator's going to shrink her dick size because apparently a few people lose their minds if a dick ever exceed 9 inches.

The first CG sequence was super hot and its a great loss we won't have anything like that again from this game because of people that actively worked to kill the creators original vision.

I don't believe the dick size was shrunk because it exceeded 9 inches. The size, as it was, would have been to cumbersome to render a bulge under clothing nicely.

We really should be shelving this argument, on both sides, until we see the new size. By my experience with Daz, even reduced, is still going to be significantly above average

 

[Naxtraxi]

I came here for the beautiful designs then I see the futa/trans tag (I will never understand why they are together) while I look at the comments to see if this is a trans or futanari story I see a war over penis size. what the hell is going on here hahahaha most of the futa content is with big cocks where the hell did these tourists come from hahahaha

 

[Naxtraxi]

Now what I wanted to know is she a hermaphrodite futanari or just a girl with a penis?

 

[omfgmule]

I don't believe the dick size was shrunk because it exceeded 9 inches. The size, as it was, would have been to cumbersome to render a bulge under clothing nicely.

We really should be shelving this argument, on both sides, until we see the new size. By my experience with Daz, even reduced, is still going to be significantly above average

That's not correct at all, if the sole reason was it was cumbersome to render then the creator would have just stated it as that without needing prompting and nothing more would need to be said.

Instead this thread was filled with people shit flinging about how Lewtopia needs to change the MC or they can't follow/support his work, when the main point is THEY WERE NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE in the first place.

Clearly the creator has a certain fetish, what if he decides to add other things he enjoys to the game but the same loud minority makes a fuss again? Should he """""town it down""""" again or just remove that too?

Its literally monkeys paw in action where in this case finally we have a futa MC that isn't overly submissive has a much larger than average cock, but sadly in the games beginning (a literal demo as advertised) people who weren't the target audience now get to direct how the MC should look and how the game should operate simply because a few select individuals were loud enough to influence the creator.

We've all heard of the "Stop chasing butterflies they will fly away." Quote right?
In this case the creator has allowed random people to start digging up his garden in the hopes that it'll actually be super duper popular if he just caves to everyone who whines.

 

[Alley_Cat]

That's not correct at all, if the sole reason was it was cumbersome to render then the creator would have just stated it as that without needing prompting and nothing more would need to be said.

Instead this thread was filled with people shit flinging about how Lewtopia needs to change the MC or they can't follow/support his work, when the main point is THEY WERE NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE in the first place.

Clearly the creator has a certain fetish, what if he decides to add other things he enjoys to the game but the same loud minority makes a fuss again? Should he """""town it down""""" again or just remove that too?

Its literally monkeys paw in action where in this case finally we have a futa MC that isn't overly submissive has a much larger than average cock, but sadly in the games beginning (a literal demo as advertised) people who weren't the target audience now get to direct how the MC should look and how the game should operate simply because a few select individuals were loud enough to influence the creator.

We've all heard of the "Stop chasing butterflies they will fly away." Quote right?
In this case the creator has allowed random people to start digging up his garden in the hopes that it'll actually be super duper popular if he just caves to everyone who whines.

Show me some art of yours before you fucking insult mine

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

That's not correct at all, if the sole reason was it was cumbersome to render then the creator would have just stated it as that without needing prompting and nothing more would need to be said.

Instead this thread was filled with people shit flinging about how Lewtopia needs to change the MC or they can't follow/support his work, when the main point is THEY WERE NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE in the first place.

Clearly the creator has a certain fetish, what if he decides to add other things he enjoys to the game but the same loud minority makes a fuss again? Should he """""town it down""""" again or just remove that too?

Its literally monkeys paw in action where in this case finally we have a futa MC that isn't overly submissive has a much larger than average cock, but sadly in the games beginning (a literal demo as advertised) people who weren't the target audience now get to direct how the MC should look and how the game should operate simply because a few select individuals were loud enough to influence the creator.

We've all heard of the "Stop chasing butterflies they will fly away." Quote right?
In this case the creator has allowed random people to start digging up his garden in the hopes that it'll actually be super duper popular if he just caves to everyone who whines.

Ok I don't think you read the "whole" thread, because the dev made specific comments about how the reduction in size is to help them work with Daz and that the change is small enough to carry on with their vision. I.E. The change is for work and while it will be noticeable it won't derive from the spirit of the demo. I bet a lot of the people complaining that the dick is currently too big will still complain after. So no the dev did not cave in to the masses.



On a side note I hated the silent majority/ loud minority argument with a passion for a long time. It's not new, even politicians have used it for a long time. I remember striking as a student and our prime at the time was trying to silence us with that argument. Who cares if the people complaining is the majority or minority, it's the internet, there is enough place for everyone and once enough people complain even if it's not the majority it's a significant enough portion of the fan base that it at least need addressing, even if only to deny the demand since, this is not a democracy, it's a creative process by an individual and they are the sole person that have a say in their creation in the end. They have the choice to do what they want with the information that they have. Attacking them for their choice is not productive. They deserve more respect than that.

Now what I wanted to know is she a hermaphrodite futanari or just a girl with a penis?

She is a dick girl. which means she doesn't have a vagina.
Since it's not the first time I have seen that comment, I am genuinely curious about the fact that this information is among the first few sentences in the synopsis and you could not get that info out of it. What, would you say, would help you more to get that information without having to seek it by posting a question in the thread?

 

[Lynava]

The size dispute is closed, but people are still trying to open it..... And it amazes me that people can't read a description where the first words are ‘A dickgirl’.

 

[omfgmule]

Show me some art of yours before you fucking insult mine

Did you respond to the wrong person? 0 idea how you could form that as a response to what I said.

Ok I don't think you read the "whole" thread, because the dev made specific comments about how the reduction in size is to help them work with Daz and that the change is small enough to carry on with their vision. I.E. The change is for work and while it will be noticeable it won't derive from the spirit of the demo. I bet a lot of the people complaining that the dick is currently too big will still complain after. So no the dev did not cave in to the masses.

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On a side note I hated the silent majority/ loud minority argument with a passion for a long time. It's not new, even politicians have used it for a long time. I remember striking as a student and our prime at the time was trying to silence us with that argument. Who cares if the people complaining is the majority or minority, it's the internet, there is enough place for everyone and once enough people complain even if it's not the majority it's a significant enough portion of the fan base that it at least need addressing, even if only to deny the demand since, this is not a democracy, it's a creative process by an individual and they are the sole person that have a say in their creation in the end. They have the choice to do what they want with the information that they have. Attacking them for their choice is not productive. They deserve more respect than that.



She is a dick girl. which means she doesn't have a vagina.
Since it's not the first time I have seen that comment, I am genuinely curious about the fact that this information is among the first few sentences in the synopsis and you could not get that info out of it. What, would you say, would help you more to get that information without having to seek it by posting a question in the thread?

Its interesting how you can twist what is a very clear post by the creator and somehow make it fit into the "uhmm actually he didn't say he was surprised by the negative feedback and complaining" and instead turn it into "See he always was going to change the MC as it was impossible to make CG unless he did that."

The size dispute is closed, but people are still trying to open it..... And it amazes me that people can't read a description where the first words are ‘A dickgirl’.

Reading through this thread the only people who consistently keep saying there is no discussion to be had are the same people who whined and complained until the creator caved in.
SHE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED NOW OR I WILL COMPLAIN, oh and guys please don't talk about this anymore as the loud minority has decided how it should be.


Will be interesting once the creator realizes that it's impossible to appease people who are not the target audience

 

[Lynava]

Reading through this thread the only people who consistently keep saying there is no discussion to be had are the same people who whined and complained until the creator caved in.
SHE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED NOW OR I WILL COMPLAIN, oh and guys please don't talk about this anymore as the loud minority has decided how it should be.

I didn't whine or complain about the size, I gave my opinion and waited for a response from the developer, which I got, and I liked it. And yes, I'm sure the people who complained about the dick being too big will also complain after the developer changes, but there will be a lot less of them.

 

[omfgmule]

I didn't whine or complain about the size, I gave my opinion and waited for a response from the developer, which I got, and I liked it. And yes, I'm sure the people who complained about the dick being too big will also complain after the developer changes, but there will be a lot less of them.

Least your honest, 0 idea what the other guys we're responding to me with. Even after this changes loud minority will keep yelling and the dev will have to start ignoring them, which he should have done in the first place but oh well.

 

[Lynava]

Least your honest, 0 idea what the other guys we're responding to me with. Even after this changes loud minority will keep yelling and the dev will have to start ignoring them, which he should have done in the first place but oh well.

I think ignoring is worse than answering NO to a request. If the developer said he would not resize, I would accept that answer, but if he continues to ignore, it will be very bad for his reputation. So I think it is better to give an answer than to ignore it.

 

[omfgmule]

I think ignoring is worse than answering NO to a request. If the developer said he would not resize, I would accept that answer, but if he continues to ignore, it will be very bad for his reputation. So I think it is better to give an answer than to ignore it.

I agree completely, perhaps I haven't worded it the best. He should say his intentions AND ignore those that keep trying to press him to change his game for the worse.

 

[Naxtraxi]

Ok I don't think you read the "whole" thread, because the dev made specific comments about how the reduction in size is to help them work with Daz and that the change is small enough to carry on with their vision. I.E. The change is for work and while it will be noticeable it won't derive from the spirit of the demo. I bet a lot of the people complaining that the dick is currently too big will still complain after. So no the dev did not cave in to the masses.

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On a side note I hated the silent majority/ loud minority argument with a passion for a long time. It's not new, even politicians have used it for a long time. I remember striking as a student and our prime at the time was trying to silence us with that argument. Who cares if the people complaining is the majority or minority, it's the internet, there is enough place for everyone and once enough people complain even if it's not the majority it's a significant enough portion of the fan base that it at least need addressing, even if only to deny the demand since, this is not a democracy, it's a creative process by an individual and they are the sole person that have a say in their creation in the end. They have the choice to do what they want with the information that they have. Attacking them for their choice is not productive. They deserve more respect than that.



She is a dick girl. which means she doesn't have a vagina.
Since it's not the first time I have seen that comment, I am genuinely curious about the fact that this information is among the first few sentences in the synopsis and you could not get that info out of it. What, would you say, would help you more to get that information without having to seek it by posting a question in the thread?

Porque les gusta cambiar el término cada semana por el era ofensivo

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

Least your honest, 0 idea what the other guys we're responding to me with. Even after this changes loud minority will keep yelling and the dev will have to start ignoring them, which he should have done in the first place but oh well.

The mods have already swiped the thread once as they consider the debate closed and any more argument is pointless. I was only pointing out the reason for the dev's move and how you are wrong to say it's mearly the dev caving in. I'm just trying to point out what the dev did and why. There is no more debate to be had.

It's funny how it's always the other guy that is in the loud minority. to me that is a false argument. It's not addressing the issue. In this case, the dev already did no need to add oil to the fire. In regards to the slight size reduction what argument do you bring to the table and what proof do you have that you are not in the vocal minority? ... You see that is not the strong argument you think it is.

The best way to influence things and be sure the dev does the oversized dick enjoyer's day is to vote with your wallet by supporting the project. I'm sure that with this project the dev will acquire some experience and will be able to do some humongous dicks in a great way at one point. Then they will have more freedom in choosing what to do with their next project.

Porque les gusta cambiar el término cada semana por el era ofensivo

En français s'il vous plait. (In French please.)

This forum is primarily an English language board. People are required to post in English or accompany their message with an English translation. the only thing I gathered from your post from my poor Spanish is: why taste something end something for being offensive. Not sure to what that all amount in the end. I'll try to answer. What I find offensive is not their taste, every one can love and hate any flavor that is only their thing. What I find offensive is that mods came said the debate is closed since the Dev answered the question and people still want to bring the subject up. I find that there is a lot to discuss other than the dick size in the demo. Among other things, the relation between the other members of the house, how they all look fine but the grand mother dislike the father verry much. He seem like a normal bloke to me up to this point, but he might be spineless while under pressure, something we haven't seen him under yet. There is a lot to explore.

 

[Lynava]

The mods have already swiped the thread once as they consider the debate closed and any more argument is pointless. I was only pointing out the reason for the dev's move and how you are wrong to say it's mearly the dev caving in. I'm just trying to point out what the dev did and why. There is no more debate to be had.

It's funny how it's always the other guy that is in the loud minority. to me that is a false argument. It's not addressing the issue. In this case, the dev already did no need to add oil to the fire. In regards to the slight size reduction what argument do you bring to the table and what proof do you have that you are not in the vocal minority? ... You see that is not the strong argument you think it is.

The best way to influence things and be sure the dev does the oversized dick enjoyer's day is to vote with your wallet by supporting the project. I'm sure that with this project the dev will acquire some experience and will be able to do some humongous dicks in a great way at one point. Then they will have more freedom in choosing what to do with their next project.



En français s'il vous plait. (In French please.)

This forum is primarily an English language board. People are required to post in English or accompany their message with an English translation. the only thing I gathered from your post from my poor Spanish is: why taste something end something for being offensive. Not sure to what that all amount in the end. I'll try to answer. What I find offensive is not their taste, every one can love and hate any flavor that is only their thing. What I find offensive is that mods came said the debate is closed since the Dev answered the question and people still want to bring the subject up. I find that there is a lot to discuss other than the dick size in the demo. Among other things, the relation between the other members of the house, how they all look fine but the grand mother dislike the father verry much. He seem like a normal bloke to me up to this point, but he might be spineless while under pressure, something we haven't seen him under yet. There is a lot to explore.

I had a lot of questions for the family because I will never believe that the sisters didn't see each other naked while growing up .( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ)

 

[omfgmule]

The mods have already swiped the thread once as they consider the debate closed and any more argument is pointless. I was only pointing out the reason for the dev's move and how you are wrong to say it's mearly the dev caving in. I'm just trying to point out what the dev did and why. There is no more debate to be had.

It's funny how it's always the other guy that is in the loud minority. to me that is a false argument. It's not addressing the issue. In this case, the dev already did no need to add oil to the fire. In regards to the slight size reduction what argument do you bring to the table and what proof do you have that you are not in the vocal minority? ... You see that is not the strong argument you think it is.

The best way to influence things and be sure the dev does the oversized dick enjoyer's day is to vote with your wallet by supporting the project. I'm sure that with this project the dev will acquire some experience and will be able to do some humongous dicks in a great way at one point. Then they will have more freedom in choosing what to do with their next project.



En français s'il vous plait. (In French please.)

This forum is primarily an English language board. People are required to post in English or accompany their message with an English translation. the only thing I gathered from your post from my poor Spanish is: why taste something end something for being offensive. Not sure to what that all amount in the end. I'll try to answer. What I find offensive is not their taste, every one can love and hate any flavor that is only their thing. What I find offensive is that mods came said the debate is closed since the Dev answered the question and people still want to bring the subject up. I find that there is a lot to discuss other than the dick size in the demo. Among other things, the relation between the other members of the house, how they all look fine but the grand mother dislike the father verry much. He seem like a normal bloke to me up to this point, but he might be spineless while under pressure, something we haven't seen him under yet. There is a lot to explore.

Trying to flip it around doesn't work like you think it does, and is laughably silly sorry.
- The dev clearly has a certain fetish which he made this game for
- The target audience is obviously people who like big dicked futa characters
- The audience in a broader scale is just people who like futa

Where does the SHE NEEDS 8 INCHES MAX OR I WONT PLAY THIS audience fit into the equation? An annoying but insistently pestering loud minority.

You're right with this being the Dev's first game, he will forcibly be shown what happens when you start to cater to people who aren't his target audience, they will continue to complain and whine without considering that perhaps this game just isn't for them in the first place.

About the whole forum / wipe situation, I'm not aware of that as I already said above in my first post that this is my first time engaging with the game. But from reading through the thread its very clear which type of fan would actually support him, and it certainly isn't going to be the ones """threatening""" him with their credit card by saying they won't support it unless he meets their demands.

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

Trying to flip it around doesn't work like you think it does, and is laughably silly sorry.
- The dev clearly has a certain fetish which he made this game for
- The target audience is obviously people who like big dicked futa characters
- The audience in a broader scale is just people who like futa

Where does the SHE NEEDS 8 INCHES MAX OR I WONT PLAY THIS audience fit into the equation? An annoying but insistently pestering loud minority.

You're right with this being the Dev's first game, he will forcibly be shown what happens when you start to cater to people who aren't his target audience, they will continue to complain and whine without considering that perhaps this game just isn't for them in the first place.

About the whole forum / wipe situation, I'm not aware of that as I already said above in my first post that this is my first time engaging with the game. But from reading through the thread its very clear which type of fan would actually support him, and it certainly isn't going to be the ones """threatening""" him with their credit card by saying they won't support it unless he meets their demands.

The flipping of argument around is precisely to show you how silly it is not to seriously use it. And come on I doubt that even with a 20% reduction the dick will only be 8" it'll still be at the verry least 14" or even 16" if not a bit more.

The argument I am making is that the dev made a reduction in size to have an easier time learning the program not to cave in. The goal is to keep their vision intact while having a great time working with it. All i'm saying is that this debate is counter productive and second guessing the dev is only pushing them away. It's much more productive to encourage them in their endeavor. Yes it's clear making big dicked girls having fun is their end goal. That has not changed. The bigger the better if I understood correctly how that kink works, but to whine to the dev that they have abandoned their vision is disingenuous. They clearly still want to do big dicked girl fucking others.

I just can't wait for 0.1 for the that debate to die down. It currently feel like one side is beating down a dead horse and the other side rather than point it out see the horse twitching so they go take their own bat to beat it too.

I had a lot of questions for the family because I will never believe that the sisters didn't see each other naked while growing up .( ఠ ͟ʖ ఠ)

That is actually a point the dev acknowledged earlier so it will be addressed or alluded to in 0.1 I believe. They have a lot of work to get that version ready with all the good feedback they got. That point is the obvious one to me. Even then she doesn't have periods, at one point that is bound to rise the suspicions of the other two. How come she doesn't need pads or tempons. Did she go see the doctor for that and what did they say is the MC baren? It can go far. You are right that subterfuge is hard to maintain.