VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[dolfe67]

Hana, at age 22, has a fantastic pair of tits and nipples - probably too 'mature' for her age?

Breasts don't grow after puberty outside pregnancy (and just temporarily), so at 22 you have "mature" breasts (small or big). They just get saggy when older. MILF with big boobs is a porn trope, not reality.

That said I would've like a main girl with smaller breasts.

 

[Cholos]

This is for all my brothers and maybe sisters

How to Fully Unlock the Gallery for Dummies :

Step 1: Download it and enter the game folder
Step 2: Download the extras.rpy file attached to this post and put it in the game folder

This ONLY works for version Chapter 3, Update 1. However if someone wants it for further versions you can just message me or something, its not very complex.

There, if you want the ingame walkthrough, you will need to wait for OscarSix though, I ain't doing it.

 

[ename144]

That all depends on where you live. Here for instance you would need to be good at pretty much every discipline. The concurrence to enter a public university (the best ones around here) is very high for the medicine course.


I also dislike most corruption game because they usually never bother with this aspect, the protagonist is either already corrupt or the corruption happens without much (or none at all) character development.
Here not only we can choose how much Edwin can fall into depravity but the detailed story makes said character development much more organic than in any other corruption game i tried (admit this specific list isn't that big) and between the best story focused games i played around here.

Also, it may sound trite but I really appreciate the attention given to the non-corrupt options. It's one thing to offer a choice, but it's another to make both options feel significant. I'm not even talking about lewd scenes, just selling the importance of the choice. All too often games offer a choice, play a lewd scene (or not) and proceed swiftly to the next choice without a chance to reflect on the ways in which someone has become more (or less) corrupt until the end game (if then).

By keeping the focus on the MC's thought process and providing a variety of activities that tie into the decision, we get a much better sense of how our decisions have affected the MC. The end of the first exhibit was a good example of this. If we stick around to the bitter end, we can earn points with Kathleen and see a sexy scene (with several variations), but we can choose just how involved the MC will be in the event and see how he rationalizes the various choices. Or we can duck out on the exhibit altogether and get a tender scene with Hana that also gives a little insight into Lucy.

Good stuff either way, which maximizes the impact of the decision we just made and raises the stakes for the next one.

 

[tania]

Just started this and the quality already has me really excited. One minor gripe I have is that the text is a little small, I have to slightly strain my eyes to read it.

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[sunaboz]

I am using the compressed version, which may be the reason.

It must be, in general it's best to play the version that's uploaded by devs, anything else is likely to have some additional bugs due to how Renpy works.

Also, it may sound trite but I really appreciate the attention given to the non-corrupt options. It's one thing to offer a choice, but it's another to make both options feel significant.

I agree 100%, there are many moments like these and often significant choices where we do not have the option to see a lewd scene and yet we can experience something very different. One of many such examples is Hana-Ian interaction after the first "cumpetition", compare:

Spoiler: Let me grab my popcorn option

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Spoiler: Edwin white knighting and ignoring his bro

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Depending on the option we choose, the conversation looks completely different and we either gain some points with Hana or lose some with Ian (personally I prefer the first option since I know that Ian doesn't want to hurt Hana, he's just being him, plus Hana isn't someone who needs defending, at least not in a situation like this). Still, both of these options are great and give us some interesting insight to our characters (e.g. Ian noticing immediately that when MC said he's not interested in Hana he wasn't entirely sincere).

Ian-Hana interaction continues a while later and it's one of my favourite scenes, I would love to see them more often because TD's writing especially shines in such moments.

 

[name]

It must be, in general it's best to play the version that's uploaded by devs, anything else is likely to have some additional bugs due to how Renpy works.


I agree 100%, there are many moments like these and often significant choices where we do not have the option to see a lewd scene and yet we can experience something very different. One of many such examples is Hana-Ian interaction after the first "cumpetition", compare:

Spoiler: Let me grab my popcorn option

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Spoiler: Edwin white knighting and ignoring his bro

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Depending on the option we choose, the conversation looks completely different and we either gain some points with Hana or lose some with Ian (personally I prefer the first option since I know that Ian doesn't want to hurt Hana, he's just being him, plus Hana isn't someone who needs defending, at least not in a situation like this). Still, both of these options are great and give us some interesting insight to our characters (e.g. Ian noticing immediately that when MC said he's not interested in Hana he wasn't entirely sincere).

Ian-Hana interaction continues a while later and it's one of my favourite scenes, I would love to see them more often because TD's writing especially shines in such moments.

agreed. my favorite part so far is the birthday party because of the dynamics between the four characters there. Killian and Hana are two very different characters which gives their interactions a lot of spice and the same goes for Mina's interactions with the others too. Hana presents herself as more reserved than the women at the club and she is but she also has a mischievous/exhibitionist side (making the MC and Killian drink during never have i ever, acting out her lesbian experience with Mina, gladly taking part in Killian's dare) and Mina, while the least experienced of the group, seems to be very willing to experiment or at the very least ask very in depth questions
and people like to shit on Killian and he definitely has some issues but during the party he was very friendly with Hana and even if he wins the game he spends his victory for your benefit and never oversteps any boundaries because the MC and Mina obviously bring out the best in him
and if the MC wins and you dare them to say something nice to each other it's actually a really sweet moment, particularly Hana begrudgingly admitting Killian is thoughtful and Mina being way too eager to compliment Hana, it was cute.

these four are my favorite in the game and i think a lot of it has to do with their age and experience; compared to the rest of the cast theyre still young and looking for what they want to do with their lives, whenever any of them interact with the rest of the cast theres an underlying tone of deference because everybody else is older and/or in a position of power over them. with these four you really get a sense that it's just four people at the same place in their lives hanging out and the interactions feel less formal because of it. theyre the most natural group in the game and i hope we get to see more of them all together

 

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My eyes thank you for this, I've played hundreds of games before and never knew such an option existed.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

As for your question, there won't be a sexual relationship between player character and Victoria. She's meant to serve as a moral anchor for the protagonist and provide an analogue for the Rosalind relationship.

Thanks. Any chance of Victoria catching the MC watching. or even worse jacking off to one of her porn videos?
Now THAT would give us some interesting conversation around the family dinner table!!

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

You're likely already aware of this, but exhibition night wasn't her debut appearance. She has a small cameo in an earlier scene.

I was going to ask about her (the assistant's) earlier appearance - I mean she was totally fucked with cum everwhere.
I would quite like to have seen how she got in such a state!!
Does the assistant have a name?
Sorry I might have missed it.

 

[seigram]

Mod now lives at Pale Carnations In Game Mod, all future updates will go there.

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Update Ch3Up2 - Created a Mod Thread to put the mod updates in, just waiting for it to get approved. Will link it here once it does, in the meantime I'll attach the updated mod. Will try and get this updated today, but my fall into Monday. Will update this post with the new file when complete.

In Game Mod for Ch3Up1 - Shows toughness and relationship changes of different options. Also has gallery unlocker. I just stumbled upon this game today, and have not yet completed it - let alone taken any potential different paths; so apologies if you hit any bugs, but should be solid I think.

Also, note this isn't a walkthrough per se, as sometimes taking a loss can lead to future, better gains.

Edit: Small mod update, added a note for score goal during Week 1 interview.
Edit 2: Small bug fix for round 2 of week 1 exhibition.

 

[quorkboy]

Thanks. Any chance of Victoria catching the MC watching. or even worse jacking off to one of her porn videos?
Now THAT would give us some interesting conversation around the family dinner table!!

I don't think he would jack off to them. He doesn't watch them to get off. And unless I missed something, he only watches them in his own home - so no chance she finds out unless he tells her.

I also think neither of these scenarios fit Victoria's role in the story.

 

[HSHS1111]

I'd say there's a fair chance the topic of Victoria's past will come up between them eventually. Same with her finding out, at least in part, what her son's work is about. Either naturally or force by Kathleen. There's no way she can restrain herself and not pull some shit.

Don't expect anything between the MC and Victoria to sexual though. I think the closest to anything incest we'll get in this is playing pretend with Rosalind.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I'd say there's a fair chance the topic of Victoria's past will come up between them eventually. Same with her finding out, at least in part, what her son's work is about. Either naturally or force by Kathleen. There's no way she can restrain herself and not pull some shit.

Don't expect anything between the MC and Victoria to sexual though. I think the closest to anything incest we'll get in this is playing pretend with Rosalind.

Victoria is edwin's moral anchor by his own words, there is nothing sexual between them.

By the way i found it quite interesting how Victoria got worried when her son said the job offer came from Chuck. Makes me wonder that she knows how much of a degenerate he is.

 

[mats.backmanm]

In Game Mod for Ch3Up1 - Shows toughness and relationship changes of different options. Also has gallery unlocker. I just stumbled upon this game today, and have not yet completed it - let alone taken any potential different paths; so apologies if you hit any bugs, but should be solid I think.

Also, note this isn't a walkthrough per se, as sometimes taking a lose can lead to future, better gains.

Edit: Small mod update, added a note for score goal during Week 1 interview.

Hey man, ill be trying the mod out laters. Oscarsix had a mod similair to yours earlier but has it onhold now, he added so you can choose every desire, trait, history and perk available. Is that something you could possibly replicate? I'm pretty sure it adds conversation options and additional points in the game. Thx for the work tho!

 

[ename144]

Victoria is edwin's moral anchor by his own words, there is nothing sexual between them.

By the way i found it quite interesting how Victoria got worried when her son said the job offer came from Chuck. Makes me wonder that she knows how much of a degenerate he is.

I wondered about that at first, too. Since she lets the matter drop after the MC starts his job I'm inclined to think I was jumping at shadows, and if Victoria had really bad feelings about Chuck she would presumably have done more to keep the MC away from him back when he was Chuck's student.

Still it's possible she either knew more about Chuck than she wanted to admit, or that she just has a general suspicion of him but trusts the MC's judgement about the job.

 

[seigram]

Hey man, ill be trying the mod out laters. Oscarsix had a mod similair to yours earlier but has it onhold now, he added so you can choose every desire, trait, history and perk available. Is that something you could possibly replicate? I'm pretty sure it adds conversation options and additional points in the game. Thx for the work tho!

Yup - I pulled that idea over from his. I haven't selected it for my playthrough, so can't vouch to if it breaks the game, but looking through his mod, it didn't seem like he made any other changes for it other than giving an "all" option.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I wondered about that at first, too. Since she lets the matter drop after the MC starts his job I'm inclined to think I was jumping at shadows, and if Victoria had really bad feelings about Chuck she would presumably have done more to keep the MC away from him back when he was Chuck's student.

Still it's possible she either knew more about Chuck than she wanted to admit, or that she just has a general suspicion of him but trusts the MC's judgement about the job.

She does ask later if the place is a brothel when Edwin is being vague about his work.
So yeah maybe she at least has a general suspicion about Chuck or this is her previous experience dealing with scumbags telling her to be wary.

 

[sunaboz]

Checkov's gun / foreshadowing? I hope so.

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[sunaboz]

New (lewd) artwork has been posted on Mutt & Jeff patron page, some really juicy stuff:

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[lucifer.14]

She does ask later if the place is a brothel when Edwin is being vague about his work.
So yeah maybe she at least has a general suspicion about Chuck or this is her previous experience dealing with scumbags telling her to be wary.

I feel maybe Victoria knew Chuck from her recording days. (directly or in-directly)