VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[RC-1138 Boss]

We gotta get MOAR though, fingers crossed for Dalia, Hana and the rest c:

Don't think Hana is the type and Dalia is a side character right? So i don't expect much of her.

I actually don't think Veronica is very dominant, she just tries her best to hold up a very spiky facade because she has to. Maybe (hopefully) good guy MC can even soften that up a bit over time.

I have not played such a playthrough yet, but I think the less dominant Veronika only comes out with high RPs with Edwin and relatively high hot points as well. While part of her dominant brick wall is an act, most seems to be real.

Veronica affection and hot points were both very high on my playthrough. I doubt it is a act, she was very skilled in turning Kathleen jelly on her hands and same to Edwin. Plus the whole way she handles Mina the first time Edwin brings her to the gym. Veronica is very accustomed to dominate her partners in bed she just isn't sadistic about the way she does like Kathleen.

It does. Most of my suspicion comes from the fact that while out in the open she acts disgusted towards sexual acts or comments from MC, some of them still raise Relation and Hot points with her. So deep down she's at least conflicted.

At the start maybe since she was at that place she hate because she needs the money.
But now i see it more as playful sex banter between both Veronica and Edwin.

 

[Marcellogo]

I propose a new tag SPECIFIC for this game: Oedipus/Jocasta complex.

 

[ename144]

Veronica affection and hot points were both very high on my playthrough. I doubt it is a act, she was very skilled in turning Kathleen jelly on her hands and same to Edwin. Plus the whole way she handles Mina the first time Edwin brings her to the gym. Veronica is very accustomed to dominate her partners in bed she just isn't sadistic about the way she does like Kathleen.

I agree, Veronica does seem to be the dominant type by preference. She's not dogmatic about it, though. I also think her style of dominance is more about one-upmanship rather than humiliation. She likes to make the MC jump through hoops, but it's enough that the two of them know she's doing it. There's no need for everyone else to gawk at the MC if he falls on his face, and likewise she will compliment him if he does measure up.

I propose a new tag SPECIFIC for this game: Oedipus/Jocasta complex.

But... why? The MC wishes his father was alive and seems determined not to sexualize his mother even when watching her old porn vids. If anything I think we need an anti-Oedipus complex tag.

 

[Barry Nyle]

The only thing that gets me harder than incest is devs sticking to their vision of their game.

Yeah this is a game that shouldn't work for me on paper in terms of what I usually prefer, but it's really well done and everything is in service to the story and vision the devs have for it so that I can't help but love it. It's definitely blown away a lot of my preconceived ideas about VNs and this art style.

 

[DirtyMario]

It's definitely blown away a lot of my preconceived ideas about VNs and this art style.

Honey Select females mostly look great if the artist knows what he's doing. It's a semi cartoony art style but realistic enough to make them believable. On the flip side male characters are seriously lacking, they all look kinda bland and samey.
The writing and dialogue are definitely top of its class as far as hentai VNs go though, at least so far.

 

[Marcellogo]

I agree, Veronica does seem to be the dominant type by preference. She's not dogmatic about it, though. I also think her style of dominance is more about one-upmanship rather than humiliation. She likes to make the MC jump through hoops, but it's enough that the two of them know she's doing it. There's no need for everyone else to gawk at the MC if he falls on his face, and likewise she will compliment him if he does measure up.



But... why? The MC wishes his father was alive and seems determined not to sexualize his mother even when watching her old porn vids. If anything I think we need an anti-Oedipus complex tag.

Oedipus, Electra (Laius and Jocasta) complex didn't refers strictly to incest but to any abnormal attraction or preference to the parent of the opposite sex.
That because Freud and Jung later considered the primal motion toward it something natural, worrying only if it become patological or obsessive.
A children that as an example doesn't accept his/her widowed or divorced parent to have a relation with some other could be a non sex-related example.
In this case obviously have the meaning of having some pulsion related to it but not going into actual sex.
And as I have said, I am not thinking only about MC, desiring his own mother, i see a LOT of other of such dynamics possible here.

 

[Marcellogo]

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Adore her but I have a different creed:

I earnestly and wholeheartedly believe that THOSE GODDESSES...



...are the current era AVATARS
OF THOSE GODDESSES.



PROVE ME WRONG.

 

[sunaboz]

BTW, on Patron GIL has posted a very nice (and lewd) Veronica x Felicia bonus art. I encourage everyone to become patrons, this is the game that truly deserves support.

A children that as an example doesn't accept his/her widowed or divorced parent to have a relation with some other could be a non sex-related example.

Not really, children know that if their parent will remarry they will receive less attention AND the partner in question won't care about them even one bit. This has nothing to do with Oedipus/Electra complex but it's more a case of pragmatism and cold, logical thinking. These same children might also be against siblings, although in this case siblings at least care about each other.

 

[Templar Knight]

the developer view this page ?, I hope so. the update was excellent, because it showed Rosalinda's situation and who was on her route, now it's even more determined, but the only two problems I found in this version were the lack of choice at the end, in which you should choose if you wanted to stay with Hana or with Mina and the other problem is Hana as a ''friend'' in status, man she lives with you, she's already had sex, they eat together, even if she becomes a ''boss'' now in the organization, she should already be have changed status to '''girlfriend'' or ''lover'', something like that.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Never heard about colorful friends or friends with benefits? That would be the status between Edwin and Hana. It is still too soon for anything other than that for those two.

 

[DirtyMario]

the developer view this page ?, I hope so.

He reads here but doesn't post that often. Understandable because we (most of us) are not Patrons.

the other problem is Hana as a ''friend'' in status, man she lives with you, she's already had sex,

Did we though? Technically I don't think so.

 

[dolfe67]

Did we though? Technically I don't think so.

There was no penetration but it can be considered sex

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[DirtyMario]

There was no penetration but it can be considered sex

Right, that's why I said "technically".
First real sex was considered a big deal which is why the dev chose to blue ball us with it.
I still haven't forgiven him.

 

[claus001]

Took some time to play the latest update. So revenge porn this time? Angry girls are scary!

 

[TamaMountain]

There was no penetration but it can be considered sex

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Still the hottest scene in the game so far.

 

[Marcellogo]

Right, that's why I said "technically".
First real sex was considered a big deal which is why the dev chose to blue ball us with it.
I still haven't forgiven him.

Frankly, some sex scenes not involving penetration there are IMHO much more steamier and exciting than whole games I have played so far (and enjoyed also)...
Just think the first one between Felicia and MC on Edwin lounge compared with the threesome...

 

[nibbaimreal]

Did I not supposed to see the week 2 content? Why did I get an end after the exhibition at week 1?

 

[DirtyMario]

Just think the first one between Felicia and MC on Edwin lounge compared with the threesome...

Well Felicia has a hot model in general. Second favourite after Hana. I just really can't believe the age she's supposed to be, but I guess that just comes with using HS models.

 

[Barry Nyle]

Playing this game has really messed up my expectations for the quality of writing in other games.

 

[yrpotria]

I liked this story but will be waiting for ending. I really love Veronica and Rosalind's characters but if author just give them to some other males other than mc then its will be really killjoy. And I have a feeling this will be the case.

(Well there we have Felicia also. I really didnt mind she was at

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. Maybe she have a deeper story but she's looking and acting yourself like a slut. That situations suits her)