VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Niceguy156]

Come for the girls, stay for the story

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Victoria get fucked yet?

Yes. Edwin watched all the porn videos she did.

Words from the developers themselves, don't expect incest here.

 

[Nemesiz691]

Yes. Edwin watched all the porn videos she did.

Words from the develpers themselves, don't expect incest here.

Ahaha. Just that no new scenes with her.

 

[ename144]

You're likely already aware of this, but exhibition night wasn't her debut appearance. She has a small cameo in an earlier scene.

Ah, I'd been wondering if that was her but it's hard to confirm. If so, though, it does make me wonder why she wasn't testing the new formula herself. We know it was ready by then since the MC will get a dose a day earlier if he's "rewarded."

 

[TD1900]

Ah, I'd been wondering if that was her but it's hard to confirm. If so, though, it does make me wonder why she wasn't testing the new formula herself. We know it was ready by then since the MC will get a dose a day earlier if he's "rewarded."

Edwin wouldn't have really been the first either, to be honest. The exhibition itself would probably just be one leg of a "not-so-clinical trial" if you wanted to expand on it logically.

I will say there's more to their alliance to be revealed than just access to men and women. Obviously, the wealthy head of a pharmaceutical company wouldn't necessarily need any help in finding test subjects.

 

[ename144]

Edwin wouldn't have really been the first either, to be honest. The exhibition itself would probably just be one leg of a "not-so-clinical trial" if you wanted to expand on it logically.

I will say there's more to their alliance to be revealed than just access to men and women. Obviously, the wealthy head of a pharmaceutical company wouldn't necessarily need any help in finding test subjects.

No worries, I'm quite willing to attribute it to Kathleen considering the MC more expendable than Van Doren's personal assistant.

 

[sunaboz]

You're likely already aware of this, but exhibition night wasn't her debut appearance. She has a small cameo in an earlier scene.

I thought it was her but wasn't sure and it seemed strange that Van Doren would offer his own personal assistant/prostitute for other members of the club when it's the club that's supposed to provide whores for their own entertainment. Anyway, I'll take it as a "yes, we'll be seeing some more of her" .

And while you're in a sharing mood, can you tell us whether we'll see some hot bartender action (who IMO is the hottest after Felicia)?

 

[sunaboz]

lol
Dalia's expression cracked me up (and that old guy's too):

 

[name]

I thought it was her but wasn't sure and it seemed strange that Van Doren would offer his own personal assistant/prostitute for other members of the club when it's the club that's supposed to provide whores for their own entertainment. Anyway, I'll take it as a "yes, we'll be seeing some more of her" .

And while you're in a sharing mood, can you tell us whether we'll see some hot bartender action (who IMO is the hottest after Felicia)?

yeah the bartender was a good unique design, we might see more of her as we go to see Hana's concerts i imagine

 

[Py Ape]

I gotta ask man... studying physics to get into a medical school?

 

[TD1900]

I gotta ask man... studying physics to get into a medical school?

Any bachelor degree holder can get into med school, but the physical sciences are a common choice for premed students since it ticks off a lot of prerequisites you need to get in.

 

[Py Ape]

Any bachelor degree holder can get into med school, but the physical sciences are a common choice for premed students since it ticks off a lot of prerequisites you need to get in.

ahh...okay... I didn't know, I thought only Biology gets you there lul

 

[claus001]

I like how corruption is done in this game. Actually I don't like corruption games at all, but since corruption here has been done with baby steps it feels so natural and normal that I simply go with the flow.

Also I like how Hana is secretly a tradwaifu meanwhile Mina hides her tomboy side very well. I don't know about the possible endings of this game but I can foresee Hana becoming a housewife without piercings while Mina can be corrupted to be what you desire.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

n't know, I thought only Biology gets you there lul

That all depends on where you live. Here for instance you would need to be good at pretty much every discipline. The concurrence to enter a public university (the best ones around here) is very high for the medicine course.

I like how corruption is done in this game. Actually I don't like corruption games at all, but since corruption here has been done with baby steps it feels so natural and normal that I simply go with the flow.

Also I like how Hana is secretly a tradwaifu meanwhile Mina hides her tomboy side very well. I don't know about the possible endings of this game but I can foresee Hana becoming a housewife without piercings while Mina can be corrupted to be what you desire.

I also dislike most corruption game because they usually never bother with this aspect, the protagonist is either already corrupt or the corruption happens without much (or none at all) character development.
Here not only we can choose how much Edwin can fall into depravity but the detailed story makes said character development much more organic than in any other corruption game i tried (admit this specific list isn't that big) and between the best story focused games i played around here.

 

[sunaboz]

Another hilarious (IMO) scene:

Veronica:
"Eh... w-what about Rose? Doesn't she get -ng!- a riddle?

Kathleen:
"Sorry, I only know the one!"

 

[kingc123]

Just started this and the quality already has me really excited. One minor gripe I have is that the text is a little small, I have to slightly strain my eyes to read it.

 

[Bonhomie]

Another late visitor to this excellent game.

I just started it and played through to the end of the current update, making decisions based on how I felt as the game unfolded.

Then replayed some choices.
Then read through the last 25 pages of this thread, through the in depth discussion of Killian's character.

Usually I find a sign of a good game is a decent debate on the plot and characters, and this hits that high.

Other random thoughts:

Nice variation with the Carnations Ladies.
The fact that they are 'older' makes a lot of sense to the story.

Hana, at age 22, has a fantastic pair of tits and nipples - probably too 'mature' for her age?

Kathleen is the most interesting though - the Dev said he really enjoys writing her scenes - you can see that in the dialogues.
If you consider her position, and what she says about not letting the members see her getting fucked otherwise her managerial standing would be diminished, she is probably a very frustrated lady.
I almost expected her to jump on the MC when alone with him in her office, after the stage show ended. Maybe next week as I doubt Veronica will satisfy her again.

Query 1
Saves - I have saves going to 50 odd pages, but I can only see up to page 9. #
Once I go past page 9 there is no indication of which page I am on.

Query 2
I had a lot of difficulty getting to the toilet sex with Felicia - several 'exception' screens which I managed to get through by pressing 'ignore' several times.
Didn't see any reports of that problem, but maybe it was mentioned before page 65 or so? Yet it was still a problem in the latest update download.

I am using the compressed version, which may be the reason.
I may try downloading the full version later.

Finally when you consider the devs involved it is no surprise that this game is 'golden'.

GIL TD

(Just say it to yourself )

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I think that's one of, if not the, main theme of the game, yes: will you make the MC a good guy or not? The last update makes it very clear the MC has a genuine sadistic streak that he's learned to bottle up. Kathleen offers him the chance to indulge that streak safely*, whereas Victoria taught him to suppress that streak for the good of those around him.

We get to choose which side the MC will land on, so yes, the question ultimately becomes about how much we want to see the kinky sex scenes. Of course, as I mentioned before, this does sort of hinge on how much you find these particular kinks sexy. If you find sadism and humiliation unpleasant, it's a bit like the Spanish Inquisition threatening someone with the comfy chair.

Still, it's a good dilemma. I am very curious to see if this winds up tying into the choice of the MC's psyche back at the start of the game (particularly the altruism vs lust option). There are a lot of cool (and a few scary) possibilities there. I suspect we'll have to wait for at least Chapter 3 Update 3 to see that come into play, but such is life. Patience is a virtue too, so hopefully we can at least get better at that one.

*Safely for Kat; for those around the MC, not so much.

Hi. saw this game on someone's sig and downloaded it last week, playing it for the very first time at weekend. Oh my indeed!! I could nt believe how quickly the MC got to have sex with Felicia - she is smoking hot, and the action on that club toilet was even hotter.

Another character I wanted the MC to have sex with was Kathleen, so I am pleased that following the Walkthrough and maximising her Trust points paid off in that regard. Although it did push me slightly further down the sadistic route than I would have liked. I may have to play again and turn Harper down in a future replay.

So far I have only played through the Exhibition evening just once. I was so drained (probably both emotionally and physically) afterwards, I just replayed the party scene at Killian's to see Felicia snog Mina and Felicia's "threesome".

If I had criticisms, firstly it was that "threesome" did nt quite meet my initial expectations. And similarly I felt a bit of a tease that Felicia described an anal scene with you whilst sitting on park bench, and apart from a couple of quick shots, that was as close as we got to any anal action. And finally that Killian got to screw the teacher rather than the MC doing so. Although she did look hot with dildo's stuffed up both her holes.

I am presuming that is all a part of starting low and going upwards Chapter by Chapter. In which case I certainly hope that future updates will give us lots of Anal and DP. And it was certainly for me a great start.

One final question - how likely is sex with MC's mother? I thought she looked cute and was intrigued that MC watched videos of his mum's porn career.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

One final question - how likely is sex with MC's mother? I thought she looked cute and was intrigued that MC watched videos of his mum's porn career.

No incest in the game if that is what you are asking about. One of the devs mentioned it in this thread. You can search for their names if you are curious to see the post.

 

[TD1900]

I had a lot of difficulty getting to the toilet sex with Felicia - several 'exception' screens which I managed to get through by pressing 'ignore' several times.
Didn't see any reports of that problem, but maybe it was mentioned before page 65 or so? Yet it was still a problem in the latest update download.

I am using the compressed version, which may be the reason.
I may try downloading the full version later.

I'll look into it, but this is the first I'm hearing about it, so you might be correct in that assumption. I'll let you know.

I am presuming that is all a part of starting low and going upwards Chapter by Chapter. In which case I certainly hope that future updates will give us lots of Anal and DP. And it was certainly for me a great start.

One final question - how likely is sex with MC's mother? I thought she looked cute and was intrigued that MC watched videos of his mum's porn career.

That is a safe presumption.

As for your question, there won't be a sexual relationship between player character and Victoria. She's meant to serve as a moral anchor for the protagonist and provide an analogue for the Rosalind relationship.