TD1900

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I would be interested to know if TD1900 considers the chief as someone moderately/powerful or if they fall into practical purpose roll since depending on the story they want to write they could fall into either camp
A bit of both. Obviously there's the practical side of having the police in your pocket, but Jim having been appointed by the mayor isn't void of political capital or connections within the city. Of course, like you said, nothing saves you from the long dick of the federal government - and realistically speaking, all criminal organizations are just ticking time bombs or, at the very least, prone to to having their power structure reshuffled.
 
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A bit of both. Obviously there's the practical side of having the police in your pocket, but Jim having been appointed by the mayor isn't void of political capital or connections within the city. Of course, like you said, nothing saves you from the long dick of the federal government
Well, if he is still among us (because of his estimated age he might not), "Dan Cooper" will tell you otherwise!;) But seriously, yes, if the federal govenrment really wants to nail you down, normally they will.
 
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selberdreher

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Ok, did some research on the probable location of Morehead Hills.
Previously i always entertained the idea Morehead Hills could be or is located close to New York.

Lets see what we got:

Chuck states on friday 8th of May "(...) Morehead Hills and the surrounding tri-state area (...)"
From the english wikipedia: Tri-state area is an informal term in the United States which can be used for any of several populated areas associated with a particular town or metropolis that, with adjacent suburbs, lies across three states.
Followed by a list of 23 areas commonly or occasionally referred to as tri-state areas.

If we assume the ambassador of new zealand is a regular at the carnation club and he is not the ambassador of NZ to the United Nations, the club cannot be located too far away from his official residence which would be in this case in Washington DC.
The club cannot be too far away, because for obvious reasons he can't leave his duties unattended for a suspiciously long time.

The third clue we get is that Morehead Hills is quite likely a renowned University City since it hosts the elite St. Ives academy Lucy tries to get her boy into and of course a university Edwin is studying at.

The fourth clue is that Morehead Hills has a subway system, since a subway exit is directly located in front of the Clubs' entrance. Which implies Morehead Hills is a relatively big city populationwise, thus ruling out some prestigious university locations in Virginia, because they are too small.

From above mentioned wikipedia list i think the following two areas are the best fit for those assumptions, with the latter being the more likely one:
  1. The Philadelphia metropolitan area, the distance between DC and Philadelphia is roughly 200km (140miles).
  2. The area that includes Washington DC and the nearby parts of Maryland and Virginia is sometimes loosely referred to as a "tri-state area," although the District of Columbia is not a state. However, with the presence of Jefferson County, West Virginia, in the official Washington–Arlington–Alexandria metropolitan statistical area, the region, as defined by the US Government, does in fact include three states. This area is colloquially referred to as "the DMV" (DC, Maryland, Virginia).
The second option also includes the Baltimore metropolitan area also known as Central Maryland with a combined population of 2.7 millions. The greater Washington–Baltimore metropolitan area boasts an impressive 9.97 million residents.
These numbers are important because the club has to draw its high-class clients from a relatively large population base. It's not very likely that Charlottesville, VA hosts CEOs, actors, tenors and the like.
Especially for Kristoffer Jameson and his PMC it's very rational to be located close to the Capital, too.

Baltimore, which is located 64km (40miles) northeast of Washington at a reasonable distance, has indeed a subway (Baltimore Metro SubwayLink), with Johns Hopkins University and Johns Hopkins Hospital being the city's top two employers.

Johns Hopkins University is a private (!) research (!) university and it consistently ranks among the most prestigious universities in the world. The cost of attendance per year is approximately $77400 (!) and acceptance rates were roughly at 10% throughout the past few years but dropped even lower in 2021 to 6.4%. Which would certainly elevate Mihirs importance and his role if he was a dean of this institution.

The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine (JHUSOM) is the medical school of Johns Hopkins University, which also has consistently ranked among the top medical schools in the United States in terms of the number of research grants awarded by the National Institutes of Health and other measures. The cost of attendance per year is approximately $66000 (!) (excluding living expenses, the school estimates a total of ~$90000 if you include them). This is the reason why the Clubs' job offer is too good to pass for Edwin.

And finally Johns Hopkins Hospital (JHH) is the teaching hospital and biomedical research (!) facility of the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, widely regarded as one of the world's greatest hospitals and medical institutions. The Hospital and its school of medicine are considered to be the founding institutions of modern American medicine and the birthplace of numerous famous medical traditions. This would explain also the presence of Dr. van Doren and Sophia in this city, with his company near world class medical and biomedical research facilities.

With all this i am pretty convinced, that Morehead Hills is modelled after Baltimore, Maryland. It ties everything neatly together and shows that the carnation club may not cater to the absolut elite 0.1%, but definetly doesn't serve some backwater D-rank wannabees either.

What is your take on it?
 

Vakkyr

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Damn, you all really gave me something to think about, and i think i cant really contibute to the Discussion anymore until i, at least, played through the actual Update once, to get the same insight as you all. I'll try to make time to play the Game in the comming Week but don't expect a reply from me until i managed to play through the Game at least once.

I want to thank you all for you insights and perspectives on the Story so far, but please bear with me that i want to play through the actual aviable content first, before i state my opinion again. I really love the lively Discussion we have here and i'm really greatfull that we managed to keep the Discussion constructive and respectfull, what is not a given thing on the Internet.
 

Bill Temple

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Ok, did some research on the probable location of Morehead Hills.
Previously i always entertained the idea Morehead Hills could be or is located close to New York.

Lets see what we got:

Chuck states on friday 8th of May "(...) Morehead Hills and the surrounding tri-state area (...)"
From the english wikipedia: Tri-state area is an informal term in the United States which can be used for any of several populated areas associated with a particular town or metropolis that, with adjacent suburbs, lies across three states.
Followed by a list of 23 areas commonly or occasionally referred to as tri-state areas.

If we assume the ambassador of new zealand is a regular at the carnation club and he is not the ambassador of NZ to the United Nations, the club cannot be located too far away from his official residence which would be in this case in Washington DC.
The club cannot be too far away, because for obvious reasons he can't leave his duties unattended for a suspiciously long time.

The third clue we get is that Morehead Hills is quite likely a renowned University City since it hosts the elite St. Ives academy Lucy tries to get her boy into and of course a university Edwin is studying at.

The fourth clue is that Morehead Hills has a subway system, since a subway exit is directly located in front of the Clubs' entrance. Which implies Morehead Hills is a relatively big city populationwise, thus ruling out some prestigious university locations in Virginia, because they are too small.

From above mentioned wikipedia list i think the following two areas are the best fit for those assumptions, with the latter being the more likely one:
  1. The Philadelphia metropolitan area, the distance between DC and Philadelphia is roughly 200km (140miles).
  2. The area that includes Washington DC and the nearby parts of Maryland and Virginia is sometimes loosely referred to as a "tri-state area," although the District of Columbia is not a state. However, with the presence of Jefferson County, West Virginia, in the official Washington–Arlington–Alexandria metropolitan statistical area, the region, as defined by the US Government, does in fact include three states. This area is colloquially referred to as "the DMV" (DC, Maryland, Virginia).
The second option also includes the Baltimore metropolitan area also known as Central Maryland with a combined population of 2.7 millions. The greater Washington–Baltimore metropolitan area boasts an impressive 9.97 million residents.
These numbers are important because the club has to draw its high-class clients from a relatively large population base. It's not very likely that Charlottesville, VA hosts CEOs, actors, tenors and the like.
Especially for Kristoffer Jameson and his PMC it's very rational to be located close to the Capital, too.

Baltimore, which is located 64km (40miles) northeast of Washington at a reasonable distance, has indeed a subway (Baltimore Metro SubwayLink), with Johns Hopkins University and Johns Hopkins Hospital being the city's top two employers.

Johns Hopkins University is a private (!) research (!) university and it consistently ranks among the most prestigious universities in the world. The cost of attendance per year is approximately $77400 (!) and acceptance rates were roughly at 10% throughout the past few years but dropped even lower in 2021 to 6.4%. Which would certainly elevate Mihirs importance and his role if he was a dean of this institution.

The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine (JHUSOM) is the medical school of Johns Hopkins University, which also has consistently ranked among the top medical schools in the United States in terms of the number of research grants awarded by the National Institutes of Health and other measures. The cost of attendance per year is approximately $66000 (!) (excluding living expenses, the school estimates a total of ~$90000 if you include them). This is the reason why the Clubs' job offer is too good to pass for Edwin.

And finally Johns Hopkins Hospital (JHH) is the teaching hospital and biomedical research (!) facility of the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, widely regarded as one of the world's greatest hospitals and medical institutions. The Hospital and its school of medicine are considered to be the founding institutions of modern American medicine and the birthplace of numerous famous medical traditions. This would explain also the presence of Dr. van Doren and Sophia in this city, with his company near world class medical and biomedical research facilities.

With all this i am pretty convinced, that Morehead Hills is modelled after Baltimore, Maryland. It ties everything neatly together and shows that the carnation club may not cater to the absolut elite 0.1%, but definetly doesn't serve some backwater D-rank wannabees either.

What is your take on it?
I like to think Morehead Hills is Boston. Rhode Island and New Hampshire are both less than 50 miles from Boston. Boston has a subway system, some pretty famous universities, and plenty of elite prep schools. I don't think ambassadors are tied to their embassy at all times, and an 80 minute flight can get you from DC to Boston.
 

selberdreher

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I like to think Morehead Hills is Boston. Rhode Island and New Hampshire are both less than 50 miles from Boston. Boston has a subway system, some pretty famous universities, and plenty of elite prep schools. I don't think ambassadors are tied to their embassy at all times, and an 80 minute flight can get you from DC to Boston.
Yes, i was thinking about that too: "what if he just flies to another tri-state a bit further away?"

The problem in my opinion would not only be that in any case he would need considerably more time (80mins flight* 2 for a roundtrip + check-in*2 + airport security check*2 + commute to and from airport * 2), but that he would leave very visible traces using flights. I think the New Zealand counterintelligence agency would be very interested why their ambassador is flying 9 to 10 times a year to Boston or elsewhere (if we assume a very infrequent rate of visits like every 2 months, and given his money-slave relation to Dahlia i think he visits more often, plus the 4 attendances at the exhibitions). Granted timewise a diplomat should be able to get priority check ins and can perhaps even avoid security checks, but hiding those flights is hard. He gets logged in a lot of computer systems, and NZ has signed into the UKUSA agreement and ECHELON, which means their agencies are buddies to boot.
Even if NZ doesn't notice they would be surely tipped off by the CIA or NSA.
The next question would be how the club established contact in the first place, sure they could met by chance, when he was for whatever reason there, but inviting him after a one-time random encounter, seems very bold to me.

While he can easily excuse himself for like 4 to 6 hours without leaving too much traces if driving by car, when he visits Baltimore.
And since he is in the greater Baltimore area, it would be rather easy for Kathleen to get aquainted to him over a couple of chance encounters, because they attended the same high-society events. Fundraising and charity and whatnot those people hangout.
 
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Just found his introduction scene, he is the ambassador to the USA and not the United Nations, so definetly Washington based.
 

selberdreher

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Thinking about Edwin and Ian taking a drive to his family house Baltimore is a bit of a stretch for them to want to drive since its more than a 5 hour drive
I just read the dialogue between them, and Ian doesn't mention the location of their summer house? Ian just says it's furthest one of the three (Condo, House in Perigrine Terrace and Summer House).

Anyway i think there is a reason TD1900 hasn't straight away chosen Baltimore proper as PCs city and named it instead Morehead Hills. It's called artistic license and helps them to avoid to be pinned down by guys like me for 'false' descriptions, which are true for Morehead Hills, but wrong for the real Baltimore.

P.S. Google doesn't know a Perigrine Terrace either
 

muschi26

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I've seen this game recommended in a breeding/pregnancy thread, but I don't see any pregnancy tags; does it contain that type of content? or was it just an error?
 

DirtyMario

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I've seen this game recommended in a breeding/pregnancy thread, but I don't see any pregnancy tags; does it contain that type of content? or was it just an error?
There is one side encounter with a pregnant girl but it's just a few lines of dialog and a few renders. Nothing sexual.
 

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. . . .so the flashbacks of the mom doing porn don't count as ntr?

the vet's around here are probably more than familiar with how ntr haters most likely do in fact consider that ntr
 
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selberdreher

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. . . .so the flashbacks of the mom doing porn don't count as ntr?

the vet's around here are probably more than familiar with how ntr haters most likely do in fact consider that ntr
Do a bit of research in this thread, and you will find that this question has already been sufficiently and exhaustively answered.
 

ename144

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Alas, yes, . ;)

That aside, I'd hope for their sake that the Club has a more sophisticated plan to avoid federal prosecution than sheer audacity. That works much better for a one-time theft than an ongoing operation.
 
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TD1900

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I've seen this game recommended in a breeding/pregnancy thread, but I don't see any pregnancy tags; does it contain that type of content? or was it just an error?
This project will not satisfy a pregnancy fetish. As mentioned, one of the prostitutes is pregnant, and the player character is also told about a past gangbang activity where everyone bets money on whose baby it is, but that isn't shown on screen.

. . . .so the flashbacks of the mom doing porn don't count as ntr?

the vet's around here are probably more than familiar with how ntr haters most likely do in fact consider that ntr
Just because a select portion of the community have an overly broad interpretation of the term does not change its literal meaning and application. The site's written definition is: "Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.

The mother isn't a love interest. Her past is meant to invoke something between pity and adoration from the player, not jealousy. If someone feels jealous, that is baggage they're bringing to the table irrespective of the game's context.
 

Mamonetti

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As I haven't been able to find any gallery mod for this game, I took a quick look a the code and found what needs to be changed to unlock all the scenes. So here you have a small HOWTO that should be compatible will all the versions of the game unless the developers change the gallery stuff.

You must do this:
- Remove the extras.rpyc file (binary) from the game folder.
- Edit the extras.rpy file (python, plain text) from the game folder.

You'll find a section where the entries of the gallery are inserted to the grid that looks like this:
Code:
        for i in sceneGalleryList:
            if i[0]:
                imagebutton:
                    auto "images/misc/scene replay/"+i[1]+"_%s.png"
                    action Replay(i[2], scope=i[3], locked=False)
            else:
                imagebutton:
                    action NullAction()
                    idle "images/misc/scene replay/"+i[1]+"_locked.png"
                    tooltip i[4]
Replace it with this:
Code:
        for i in sceneGalleryList:
            if i[0]:
                imagebutton:
                    auto "images/misc/scene replay/"+i[1]+"_%s.png"
                    action Replay(i[2], scope=i[3], locked=False)
            else:
                imagebutton:
                    auto "images/misc/scene replay/"+i[1]+"_%s.png"
                    action Replay(i[2], scope=i[3], locked=False)
In the end you're ignoring the if condition because you're adding the same imagebutton regardless of whether the condition is true or not, but doing it this way, you'll prevent potential problems you may have with the indentation characters (blank spaces and tabs). So make sure to replace the full lines.

Just FYI, once you're done and have started the game again, an updated version of the extras.rpyc file will be created (you don't need to remove it again or anything like that).

Regards
 
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